http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aEsNownABJ6Q&refer=worldwide

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"Obama’s Visit The first case was seen in Mexico on April 13. The outbreak coincided with the President Barack Obama’s trip to Mexico City on April 16. Obama was received at Mexico’s anthropology museum in Mexico City by Felipe Solis, a distinguished archeologist who died the following day from symptoms similar to flu, Reforma newspaper reported. The newspaper didn’t confirm if Solis had swine flu or not. "

hmmm, maybe we should let Obama meet with Ahmadinejad or Osama Shit, fire up the ol jet and get Al Gore in there STAT!!!

4/29/2009 12:30:27 AM

Joke all you want, but when an unexpected flu strain pops up at an unusual time of year and starts killing people, I get just a liiiiiitle nervous. I'm not stocking up on masks and MRE's or anything, but I'm not at ease. Pandemic flu is a threat that government agencies recognize and the general population doesn't think much about.

It doesn't have to get too out of control for schools and businesses to start shutting down, running on limited hours, or putting up other restrictions, which is not what the economy needs right now.

[Edited on April 29, 2009 at 12:37 AM. Reason : ]

4/29/2009 12:35:59 AM

I on the other hand am not worried in the slightest.

4/29/2009 12:40:12 AM

Furthermore it makes me uneasy that it's killed a number of people around our age. Not because I'm worried about getting sick myself, but because that was a notable difference of the "Spanish Flu" outbreak in the late 1910's.

4/29/2009 12:44:38 AM

well, you wouldn't be the first to blame Obama for the flu. Nope - we have members of Congress to do that
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdjRFJQuoiI

oh, wait - she says she doesn't blame Obama (or Carter, presumably). She just "finds it interesting"

4/29/2009 12:47:54 AM

The fun part is that she's not even right about the last swine flu epidemic, which apparently was during Ford's presidency, not Carter's. Ford: not so much a Democrat.

4/29/2009 1:44:19 AM

history has a way of biting you in the ass sometimes lol

4/29/2009 1:58:17 AM

^^^
Haha. That lady needs to find another hobby outside politics.

4/29/2009 7:36:06 AM

i think it's great

it shows the futility of man's laws

spend all your time worrying about boogiemen from another country, but then an asteriod appears in the sky and levels the whole damn planet

4/29/2009 9:05:47 AM

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"Furthermore it makes me uneasy that it's killed a number of people around our age. Not because I'm worried about getting sick myself, but because that was a notable difference of the "Spanish Flu" outbreak in the late 1910's."

That's what I've heard too. It's not like its going after the old, the young (without fully developed immune systems) and the weak. Its killing a high number of persons in their 20s and 30s, people who are supposedly "healthy."

I looked up the death toll from the Spanish Flu in 1918 - estimated at 2.5% to 5% of the world population was killed (approximately 50 Million people)

4/29/2009 9:22:38 AM

How many died from pig flu in 70s?

4/29/2009 9:34:30 AM

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"The difference between the influenza mortality age distributions of the 1918 epidemic and normal epidemics. Deaths per 100,000 persons in each age group, United States, for the interpandemic years 1911–1917 (dashed line) and the pandemic year 1918 (solid line)."

^ are you talking about the outbreak in Hong Kong? Killed 750k to a 1 Million people

4/29/2009 9:48:25 AM

Quote :

"Joke all you want, but when an unexpected flu strain pops up at an unusual time of year and starts killing people, I get just a liiiiiitle nervous. I'm not stocking up on masks and MRE's or anything, but I'm not at ease. Pandemic flu is a threat that government agencies recognize and the general population doesn't think much about."

If we're not even trying to restrict flow across the border or halt flights to Mexico then I could care less. If the gov't doesn't, why should I?

4/29/2009 9:57:51 AM

I am already tired of all the fucking media hype this stupid swine flu is getting. Happens everytime some new strain of virus is discovered i.e SARS, avian flu, etc

People get the flu, the virus morphs, some people may die...

The media then hypes it up, creates frenzy, and people act like we are in the middle of a global class-v deadly pandemic of ebola.

Heard on the news people are stocking up on food and supplies in case they are quarntined around the country; our executive vice president even sent out a corporate broadcast abou this .

Unless I am running a 102 fever and coughing up blood I will not give this shit a 2nd thought except when i'm annoyed by the topic by the media.

[Edited on April 29, 2009 at 11:39 AM. Reason : a]

4/29/2009 11:38:19 AM

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"Pandemic flu is a threat that government agencies recognize and the general population doesn't think much about."

did you have your head buried in the sand the last few years? (bird flu/h5n1)

this isn't new

4/29/2009 12:11:07 PM

One person died in America...but it was a toddler. The only people who have died besides her were Mexicans. So, I don't know what to think about that.

4/29/2009 12:51:43 PM

well, apparently the toddler was a Mexican.... in America

4/29/2009 1:00:54 PM

RAWR DAMN ILLEGALS AND THEIR MEXICAN PIG FLUS!!

4/29/2009 1:07:07 PM

So is it like the AIDS conspiracy, that it was manufactured for Africans? Which still may or may not be true..
Either way, the govt should avoid fucking with nature...

4/29/2009 1:28:08 PM

BOYCOTT EVERYTHING MAN-MAN

4/29/2009 1:31:20 PM

i thought aids was a cia plot to kill teh gays

4/29/2009 1:47:48 PM

Quote :

"did you have your head buried in the sand the last few years? (bird flu/h5n1) this isn't new"

bird flu didn't gain this much traction (in terms of infections) did it?

4/29/2009 2:18:25 PM

Less than 250 people have died from avain flu since it was discovered.

4/29/2009 2:27:29 PM

This one is catching up quite rapidly, then, if current estimates are accurate.

And Arab13, yes, there was some public worrying about H5N1 -- about like there was for SARS, monkeypox, anthrax, and who knows what all else since 9/11, when everyone started getting extra jumpy.

But there is a difference between thinking, "Oh no, I hope I don't get the flu, I'd better elbow some old people out of my way to get a vaccine," and actually considering, even superficially, the consequences of an actual pandemic. These could, as they have been in the past, quite severe.

Already, more than 100 schools across the United States have closed because of it. Every school in Mexico has closed until May 6 at the earliest. Mexico City, one of the largest cities in the world, has had some 35,000 public venues close down. These are big deals.

Of course, it's as likely as anything else that it will peter out on its own. Maybe we'll find out that only a very small number of the deaths was actually caused by the flu, or the measures put in place will contain it, or for some bizarre reason Hispanics are particularly susceptible and the rest of the world doesn't have to panic. But it does worry me that media circuses regarding very minor threats have now made everybody immune to concern about real ones.

4/29/2009 3:53:51 PM

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"Ahmadinejad"

uhh...why him?

4/29/2009 4:58:44 PM

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"So is it like the AIDS conspiracy, that it was manufactured for Africans? Which still may or may not be true.."

Just shoot yourself. May be true? Seriously?

4/29/2009 5:37:18 PM

http://www.capitalcentury.com/1976.html

They actually started an inoculation campaign for the first swine flu outbreak, and the virus started seriously fucking up some people's nervous systems, so it was killed

Somewhat interesting that this isn't the first we've seen of the thing, I'm sure it's a bit different this time around though

I, too, am bothered that this flu has come way out of season, and also shows combinations of segments from swine, avian, and human flu and hits the young and 'healthy' the hardest

4/29/2009 9:13:21 PM

somethin' is due

4/29/2009 10:35:19 PM

i use to always wonder why we didnt have more outbreaks...like seems like with so many people like there is no way to ever control it...i'm still not worried at all about this...everyone at work just jokes about it sarcastically like "so i just got over swine flu yesterday" etc...i think it'd have to kill a million people before i'd get worried...1 million of 6.? billion is nothing

4/29/2009 10:41:43 PM

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"Member of president's team who recently went to Mexico is suspected of having swine flu, undergoing tests."

oh snap!

4/30/2009 2:35:55 PM

It's a black fly in your Chardonnay
It's a death row pardon 2 minutes too late

4/30/2009 2:39:18 PM

Ytsejam, what's with the kill myself comment? Geez. I don't remember being a bitch to you.
I don't want to presume knowledge about something, which is why I said "may or may not be true". Is it? Or isn't it? Does it really matter anymore?

The point of my comment was to say that governments should AVOID interfering with nature. Not that they DO.
Maybe YOU'RE the government....!!!


At any rate... the administration has said they don't want to close off borders with Mexico, that it won't provide much benefit. Except for the fact that the toddler who died was FROM Mexico, so stateth agentlion.

[Edited on April 30, 2009 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on April 30, 2009 at 3:16 PM. Reason : uh oh! Ytsejam conspiracy!!]

4/30/2009 3:12:40 PM

Quote :

"I don't want to presume knowledge about something, which is why I said "may or may not be true". Is it? Or isn't it? Does it really matter anymore?"

Jesus, stupidity at its finest. Presume knowledge? What is truth? There is no truth? Right? No. HIV/AIDS was not made by the government to kill Africans. There is no one, no one, in the scientific community that even entertains this idea. It's like, I don't know the world is round, some people say it is flat, so who am I to presume the world is round.

Yeah, I would say it does matter btw.

Quote :

"The point of my comment was to say that governments should AVOID interfering with nature. Not that they DO. "

Yeah.. okay.. so who was arguing that governments should start creating viruses?

4/30/2009 4:45:57 PM

...The OP's post made the assumption that Obama killed the Mexican guy... and other people said he should go to the Middle East and shake hands with terrorists to spread the flu that he supposedly has. IN JEST. And I said the govt should avoid screwing with nature. I didn't say they do or don't.

Quit being a jerk. I don't care how AIDS started. I never said I was a damn expert on the subject. I just said "may or may not", because I didn't want to start a "But it IS a conspiracy!" "NO IT ISN'T" war. Geez...

4/30/2009 5:09:14 PM

I'm much more concerned about Joe "Rhetorical Flourishes" Biden's foot-in-mouth disease than any swine flu.



Days without a Biden foot-in-mouth incident: 1

You know it's just a matter of time. . .ticktock, ticktock. . . .

5/1/2009 7:19:41 PM

Oh shit! He's back!

5/1/2009 7:33:06 PM

5/2/2009 1:08:36 AM

I've heard it's a hybrid human-bird-pig flu.

So I was thinking. I'm sure in the 1860's (and even the 1960's) people were saying that "a black man would be President when pigs fly".

So we have the man, the pigs, and the birds.

and the flew

go figure

5/2/2009 2:49:00 AM

Dude, no.

The joke (which only works when spoken aloud) is as follows:

People said a black man couldn't be President until pigs fly. Well, here we are a hundred days in, and swine flu.

If you're going to tell a bad joke, at least get it right.

5/2/2009 6:47:35 AM

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"You know it's just a matter of time. . .ticktock, ticktock. . . ."

till what? the great Biden gaffe endgame? is he going to call Obama a nigger live on TV?

are you just going to make random snipe posts now and not reply?

5/3/2009 4:36:26 PM

no one cares about biden's repetitive gaffes, they don't even gain traction in the media

just get over it, the man doesn't know when to stop talking but get's a pass because they are generally with good intentions. you can call that unfair, you can criticize that, but no one cares.

5/3/2009 4:42:00 PM

Quote :

"So I was thinking. I'm sure in the 1860's (and even the 1960's) people were saying that "a black man would be President when pigs fly". So we have the man, the pigs, and the birds. and the flew"

*carlface*

Quote :

"People said a black man couldn't be President until pigs fly. Well, here we are a hundred days in, and swine flu. "

*slight grin*


Grumpy wins

5/3/2009 4:44:15 PM

Quote :

"I've heard it's a hybrid human-bird-pig flu."

I wonder if that has anything to do with Man-Bear-Pig

5/3/2009 9:12:08 PM

Quote :

"are you just going to make random snipe posts now and not reply?"

PinkandBlack

Maybe. What's it to you?

In any event, I would expect you to be particularly forgiving of gaffes, Pink. Since you think Nelson Mandela's last name is "Mandingo"--and you posted it with such authority.

Quote :

"Foolishly, Mandingo and South Africa are attempting to reconcile their leftism with that of the Zimbabweans, who increasingly miss the old days. This has included pathetic attempts at progress as of late by Mandingo."

PinkandBlack

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"no one cares about biden's repetitive gaffes, they don't even gain traction in the media"

pooljobs

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5/4/2009 2:46:02 AM

I'm glad to see that when people are dying, potentially en masse, the wolfweb is still capable of diverting any conversation about the issue into the usual bullshit.

Even if it turns out to be nothing (as I suspect and hope it will), the swine flu thread was not high on my list of possible generators of retardedness of the sort we see here. Although I'm as guilty as anyone. because I tried to correct one fucking "joke."

5/4/2009 4:46:34 AM

Quote :

"In any event, I would expect you to be particularly forgiving of gaffes, Pink. Since you think Nelson Mandela's last name is "Mandingo"--and you posted it with such authority. "

YES I BELIVE NELSON MANDELLAS LAST NAME IS MANDINGO THE THREAD WAS IN NO WAY A FARCE INSPIRED BY A CNN TYPO

LOL

5/4/2009 5:49:53 PM

About that dying en masse bit:

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/GlobalSubnationalMaster_20090503_1630_lrg.jpg

http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_05_04a/en/index.html

So 26 dead total.

Incidentally, for comparison:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29413556

5/4/2009 9:21:43 PM

Quote :

"till what? the great Biden gaffe endgame? is he going to call Obama a nigger live on TV? "

L-O-L

5/4/2009 9:34:27 PM

^^^ Is this why:

1. At the time the thread in question was posted, you informed no one of this allegedly farcical thread of yours?

2. You disappeared--for nearly a month--one post after your OP and on the same day you made the "Mandingo" thread? Shouldn't you have stuck around to enjoy the fruits of your supposed "farce"?

In any event, my points concerning you have been made. Back on topic--this particular strain of swine flu obviously does not deserve the wall-to-wall coverage it has received, and VP Joe "Rhetorical Flourishes" Biden helped to exacerbate already irrationally heightened fears among the public.

Biden's Headed For the Woodshed

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/04/30/is-biden-overreacting/

5/5/2009 1:40:19 AM

set em up

5/17/2009 11:08:53 PM