Who gets the Pepsi Center on May 25th?

Now before all of the fuck the WWE starts, a contract is a contract and the while the agreement was made back in august of 2008, the contract was signed the last day of the NBA reg season. Vince is dogging the hell out of the owner of the nuggets for allowing this to happen. And Vince McMahon seems like the type that would exhaust his resources trying to revenge getting fucked over. He said he is sending his trucks and crew as scheduled for monday night raw....


http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4176082

5/20/2009 4:35:31 AM

WWE

5/20/2009 4:59:28 AM

I read about this the other day. Pretty hilarious maybe they should just let the nba players fight it out to see who wins.

5/20/2009 4:59:45 AM

MAIN EVENT RANDY ORTON AND LEGACY VERSUS CHRIS ANDERSEN.

5/20/2009 5:01:24 AM

i got my money on Meloe

5/20/2009 9:26:43 AM

WWE should get it.

Also, I love how whenever the WWE has to interact with a mainstream entity, they always go out of their way to rile people up.

5/20/2009 9:55:42 AM

If the contract says they they have it, they have it.

Professional wrestling and its fans are all trash, however.

5/20/2009 10:07:55 AM

vs.

5/20/2009 10:09:04 AM

is that the shamwow guy?

5/20/2009 10:14:25 AM

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"If the contract says they they have it, they have it."

too bad for the WWE they won't...

5/20/2009 10:18:59 AM

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"WWE spokesman Robert Zimmerman said the organization secured the Pepsi Center last Aug. 15 and has already sold more than 10,000 tickets for the event. He says the organization expects a sellout, with tickets ranging from $20 to $70."

ooooooooooooh big money!!!1 they couldnt hope to match that from playoff ticket sales!

i dunno what jobs vince mcmahon has held, but david stern and the whole nba front office are a bunch of lawyers...contract or not, i don't see them pushing back a playoff game in a real sport for some fucking roid soap opera shit, but we'll see who has the best lawyers

5/20/2009 10:21:07 AM

vince is gonna pay melo to turn heel

5/20/2009 10:26:35 AM

I don't think it has anything to do with the NBA, it's between McMahon and Kroenke Sports.

Kroenke owns the Nuggets AND the Pepsi Center, Avs, St. Louis Rams, and the Arsenal, plus the Altitude network and his wife is a Walmart heir. I don't think they'll have a problem dropping a couple million to McMahon...

5/20/2009 10:28:37 AM

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"in a real sport"

Isn't the NBA just as contrived as the WWE?

5/20/2009 10:30:56 AM

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"i dunno what jobs vince mcmahon has held, but david stern and the whole nba front office are a bunch of lawyers...contract or not, i don't see them pushing back a playoff game in a real sport for some fucking roid soap opera shit, but we'll see who has the best lawyers"

Jerry McDevitt for the WWE is an excellent, excellent lawyer.

But yes, this is between Kroenke and McMahon -- everything I've read said the NBA isn't going to get involved.

5/20/2009 10:52:47 AM

Vince McMahon's lawyers have negotiated him out of responsibility for killing Owen Hart, responsibility for the general physical well-being of any of his employees, and killing/devouring every major wrestling promotion in the history of America. I doubt a second-tier NBA organization has what it takes to knock him off his legal high horse.

Holy shit, I didn't watch the video until just now...making Coach handle this story is straight out of the VKM playbook.

5/20/2009 11:20:37 AM

i can totally see an angle where the players and wrestlers both show up and get in a "fight," or kroenke and mcmahon have a grudgematch at summerslam

5/20/2009 11:27:09 AM

I came in here only to post that Kroenke has walmart money and vince is going to be lucky if he can set up his cage 10 blocks down in a parking lot somewhere, but I see it's already been said.

5/20/2009 11:29:11 AM

The only thing all that money is going to buy is something very nice for Vince McMahon.

5/20/2009 11:30:49 AM

i mean they're both billionaires, so "wal-mart" money can only go so far can't it? money is money

5/20/2009 11:32:36 AM

They'll probably just have the show in Colorado Springs because that's where they're taping Smackdown/ECW/Superstars the next day, but that doesn't mean Vince won't squeeze a bunch of money out of Kroenke just for fun.

Also, LOL at Vince saying "World Wrestling Federation."

5/20/2009 11:36:00 AM

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"i dunno what jobs vince mcmahon has held, but david stern and the whole nba front office are a bunch of lawyers...contract or not, i don't see them pushing back a playoff game in a real sport for some fucking roid soap opera shit, but we'll see who has the best lawyers"

Are you saying contracts shouldn't be kept?

5/20/2009 11:46:09 AM

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"Are you saying contracts shouldn't be kept?"

Yeah, this isn't the NFL.

5/20/2009 11:47:22 AM

I'm sure the NBA has legal verbiage in their contracts with each team that assure arena availability for playoff games, and I'm sure those were legally binding well before the August 08 WWE contract.

5/20/2009 11:50:51 AM

April 2010...The Bobcats schedule the Jumper Classic and it conflicts with their first home playoff game in History

Torn between his daughter's hobby and his team he paid 300 million for, Bob Johnson sides with the Jumper Classic, relegating the Bobcats to Bojangles Coliseum

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 11:55 AM. Reason : x]

5/20/2009 11:54:36 AM

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" i dunno what jobs vince mcmahon has held, but david stern and the whole nba front office are a bunch of lawyers...contract or not, i don't see them pushing back a playoff game in a real sport for some fucking roid soap opera shit, but we'll see who has the best lawyers"

You are making it sound like Vince McMahon is some dumb hack with crap lawyers. With the shit he's been through I'm going to guess he has pretty damn good lawyers himself... He has managed to take something totally fake, market it into a massive industry, and it generally does great with tv ratings etc. Like him or hate him, it is pretty impressive.

Stern on the other hand has a real product he often has to spend this time of year defending that it isn't fake and fixed.

They'll move for the NBA, but McMahon will get $$$ and publicity out of it. Can't ask for much more then that.

5/20/2009 11:58:38 AM

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"I'm sure the NBA has legal verbiage in their contracts with each team that assure arena availability for playoff games, and I'm sure those were legally binding well before the August 08 WWE contract."

So, knowing that, Kroenke drew up a contract he wasn't sure he could deliver on. Vince wins again.

5/20/2009 12:00:45 PM

If you consider winning as not being able to hold his wrestling show on the night he scheduled it at the venue where he scheduled it, then yeah I guess he wins.

5/20/2009 12:03:32 PM

I think Kroenke and his team thought the odds were pretty slim that the dates would coincide...

50% chance they actually make the Western Conference Finals (realistically)
50% chance they schedule a game on that night
50% chance that game is a home game

Means there was a maximum 12.5% chance that the two events would coincide. Given the Nuggets past playoff performance, Kroenke probably thought the probability was 5% - low enough to risk this....

He should have disclosed this possibility in the contract and I'd be really surprised if he didn't.

5/20/2009 12:48:44 PM

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"i can totally see an angle where the players and wrestlers both show up and get in a "fight," or kroenke and mcmahon have a grudgematch at summerslam "

agreed, this is what vince does best

5/20/2009 2:31:56 PM

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"If you consider winning as not being able to hold his wrestling show on the night he scheduled it at the venue where he scheduled it, then yeah I guess he wins."

he is going to win b/c he either get the arena for that night or he will hold the event down the road and get paid DOUBLE or TRIPLE b/c of the breach of contract.....

I don't care if it's the NBA, NFL, NASA, NATO, the UN or XMEN.....a contract is a contract is a contract. The WWE has a contract to hold an event on that evening. Vince is salivating right now to throw as big as a wrench as he can into this situation esp if he can show that he is powerful enough to interrupt something as big as the NBA playoffs. He's not going to make the situation easy to resolve b/c IMO he really doesn't have to.

5/20/2009 2:40:28 PM

He won't be interrupting anything in Denver or with the NBA , sorry. He'll sue for 3 million and win. That is like .0008 of what Kroenke is worth alone.

Or about what he'll make off of having the Nuggets in the arena for Game 4 rather than the WWE, hahahahaha.

5/20/2009 2:55:09 PM

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"April 2010...The Bobcats schedule the Jumper Classic and it conflicts with their first home playoff game in History Torn between his daughter's hobby and his team he paid 300 million for, Bob Johnson sides with the Jumper Classic, relegating the Bobcats to Bojangles Coliseum "

The Checkers had to move their ECHL home playoff games to the Extreme Ice Center in Indian Trail this year because of the Jumper Classic. But, if I remember correctly, the Bobcats did have to play their last couple of games on the road because that was in town.

5/20/2009 3:58:54 PM

v.

5/20/2009 4:04:26 PM

lol, does anyone really think the NBA won't get the arena that night?

5/20/2009 4:07:44 PM

I hope not... in case anyone missed it, Kroenke owns the Nuggets AND the Pepsi Center.



GEE GEORGE, I WONDER WHAT HE WILL CHOOSE TO DO?

5/20/2009 4:26:41 PM

why can't the game be played the day before or day after?

5/20/2009 4:39:32 PM

I thought a mod of SPORTS would have a little more sense that to ask a dumbass question like that

5/20/2009 4:45:40 PM

WWE > NBA


btw

5/20/2009 4:47:06 PM

this is kinda like if american idol wanted the super bowl moved to a different date/place

5/20/2009 5:17:14 PM

all i know is a Yanni concert won out during the Pittsburgh/Washington hockey semifinals and the teams were forced to play on consecutive nights

5/20/2009 5:19:50 PM

maybe, except american idol is a lot more popular than wwe, and the nba is nowhere close to the nfl

5/20/2009 5:20:34 PM

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" why can't the game be played the day before or day after? "

Broadcast rights/obligations with ESPN and TNT.

5/20/2009 5:20:36 PM

^^^yeah but thats hockey

they cant even get on ESPN or a network

^^yeah but the similarity is one is a real sport, the other is stupid crap

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 5:21 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2009 5:20:59 PM

*one is stupid crap, the other is an entertainment television show, similar to Lost or Heroes.

5/20/2009 5:32:04 PM

WRESTLING IS SCRIPTED, HOW CAN YOU BE SO DUMB AND WATCH IT

- CSI is scripted, and you watch it three times a week.

YEAH BUT THAT'S DIFFERENT

- No, it's not.

RAWR RAWR

5/20/2009 5:36:57 PM

basketball is scripted

fake wrestling shows are real

i love watching dudes in spandex tights

until every single one of them dies from a heart attack at age 38

5/20/2009 5:39:27 PM

After watching Kobe last night, he might pass an audition with the WWE... that takedown on K-Mart would've been sick off the ropes. Plus, he bitches pretty well at the refs like the wrasslers do.

5/20/2009 5:41:32 PM

wwe pwnt

5/20/2009 8:30:23 PM

How do you figure.

Vince is going to get his booking fee they are coming back in August (and it will probably be a house show) He gets free publicity from all the new sites, and he is sticking it to the Kroenke group by having it in LA, and I bet the ratings will be higher for Raw.

5/20/2009 8:43:15 PM