Today is the full public release for VS 2010 Beta 1! I thought I'd let everyone know, for the few developers in tech talk This is a great install video from my buddy Brian Keller (the hardest part is installing SQL Server).

Installing Visual Studio 2010 Beta 1

Visual Studio Team System 2010 Beta 1 Direct Download Links: - Visual Studio Team Suite 2010 Beta 1 - Team Foundation Server 2010 Beta 1 - Visual Studio Professional 2010 Beta 1 - Windows Server 2008 Enterprise x64 (60day trial, extendable to 240 days), (VHD) - SQL Server 2008 Trials

If you've never used TFS + Team Suite before, give it a go! It's also a good chance for those of you who don't live on Windows Server 2008 to check it out, particularly Hyper-V (I cringe when thinking of using VMWare or VirtualPC now )

I'll make another post pointing out some of the REALLY cool stuff in TeamSuite and TFS.

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2009 6:17:13 PM

i have team suite 2008 installed right now - can i install this alongside that, or will it fubar my existing environment? i.e. do i need to stick this in a VM or something to isolate it.

and do you have to install SQL server locally? or can i use an existing mssql instance on a remote machine?

also, lol at the vmware comment - we tried hyper-v and hated it. didn't work well in huge VM environments, in our experience.

5/20/2009 6:25:12 PM

^They can definitely run SxS. The only reason for installing to a VM is really because of .Net4, if you depend on .Net3/3.5 for production stuff, it MAY screw with dependencies. I've not had any problems, but then I'm not a developer

For SQL, you definitely do not have to install locally. If you want to use an existing instance, just run the Custom Config wizard instead of the Default one. (The same if you want to use an existing SharePoint farm)

Hyper-V - I would highly recommend trying out Windows Server 2008 R2 RC as your Metal hyper-v host. In R2, it's gotten insanely better - for scalability, and large clusters/brokering/et al. The integration with Win7 is SICK. more here

[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 6:53 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2009 6:42:35 PM

Quote :

"SxS"

5/20/2009 6:43:57 PM

If you open an old project (2005) will it import the stuff and give you an easy option to use the older compiler? I might give this a try at work tomorrow.

5/20/2009 6:51:25 PM

http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonz/archive/2009/05/18/announcing-vs2010-net-framework-4-0-beta-1.aspx

There's a list of the top new stuff, there is SO much good stuff that I'll just pick out a few bits that are new for the industry:

Architectural Diagramming with DEEP code integration. You can generate sequence diagrams on the fly from your code, you can create and validate block models from your code using the layer diagram, you can deep link UML model elements to code and work items for traceability.






Architecture Explorer:
Walk your code across limitless metrics, and visually walk your structure by generating live-graphs. This is an absolutely amazing tool...




Now for my stuff

Team Foundation Server!

Version Control:
Branches are now first class citizens, and we are introducing branch visualization to explore your branch hierarchies, and TRACK CHANGESETS through your branches (no more wondering if a fix made it from point A to point B!)




Tracking changesets by walking the hierarchy:

Tracking changesets by timeline:

Also, drag & drop merge is in both views! If your code hasn't made it from A to B, you can do it straight from the visualization.

Build definition and Automation using Windows Workflow (no more XML hand editing!):


Work Item tracking - now supports hierarchies, and you can work with your work items in Visual Studio, Excel, Project and on the Web with feature parity!









Excel Services and MOSS provides SharePoint dashboards and reporting, all editable on the web and in excel, in realtime, and customizeable per user, project and organization!



[Edited on May 20, 2009 at 7:29 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2009 7:26:48 PM

I just came all over my keyboard.

5/20/2009 8:02:26 PM

i don't think i've ever seen someone become a MS whore this fast

i'm happy with the new release though

5/20/2009 8:35:26 PM

yeah, it's very nice, from what i've seen.

seems much more polished than 2008.

5/20/2009 8:36:26 PM

Cannot wait for this.

5/21/2009 2:01:41 AM

will that 2008 rc swallow any OS in particular that i have running, if i wanted to play with it outside of a virtual setting?

5/21/2009 3:29:43 PM

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"also, lol at the vmware comment - we tried hyper-v and hated it. didn't work well in huge VM environments, in our experience."

I'm surprised he mention the name actually, the few MS guys I know call it "somethingware" or "VMsomething".

That new vSomething released today - I wonder if they'll report 1,000,000 vSomething downloads by the end of Q4 2009?

5/21/2009 5:58:29 PM

^^Win2008 R2 Hyper-V doesn't "Swallow" an OS, you would need to flatten/dual boot the box, then create a VHD and virtual machine for it. You can (with win7) boot natively from a VHD. If you have hyper-v + virtual desktop pooling + connection broker + network boot services all installed and configured on your 2008R2 machine, your users can all netboot to their Win7 images (I have no idea if this is actually feasible in a real environment, but it is possible).

^Hahah, I totally know what you mean

5/22/2009 2:53:30 PM

thanks for the comment, noen. i don't get to tech talk much. seems like you guys would know how it is

but i'm using my virtual machine A LOT more now that 7 ate my XP (and i even read it would, and forgot)

5/27/2009 7:34:02 PM

Will it make me a better programmer?

5/28/2009 2:36:08 AM

anybody here been using this?

Visual Studio 2010 beta 2 was released not too long ago. i installed it in a VM the other day and it was not as responsive as b1. so i paved my macbook pro's boot camp partition (which i hadn't used in months) and installed a fresh win7 + vs2010 beta 2 and it's still not as snappy as i'd hoped. i'm hoping it just needs some time to warm up a bit

11/19/2009 2:59:33 PM

Does the .NET framework version 4 have built-in wrappers for the new Windows 7 features from the Windows API Code Pack?

11/19/2009 3:38:17 PM

^^It's definitely much faster than Beta1 (and insanely more stable). If you have specific slowdowns/problems you should definitely use the Connect site to send your feedback. Every single issue posted there gets looked at by the product teams

http://connect.microsoft.com/visualstudio

11/19/2009 4:22:42 PM

I'm assuming this doesn't work with the XNA Framework yet, right?

11/19/2009 4:50:33 PM

Messing with .NET 4.0 is worth it even just for the next iteration of EF. There is some cool shit in VS2010/.NET4.0

[Edited on November 19, 2009 at 9:43 PM. Reason : .]

11/19/2009 9:42:41 PM

had a hell of a time getting VS2008 to connect to my TFS2010 instance, but finally got it thanks to http://medo64.blogspot.com/2009/11/visual-studio-2008-and-team-foundation.html

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=cf13ea45-d17b-4edc-8e6c-6c5b208ec54d was supposed to fix it, but i still got errors.

edit: apparently that MS fix doesn't work if you originally installed Team Explorer after VS2008 SP1, which i probably did.



[Edited on November 27, 2009 at 1:12 PM. Reason : ^ EF is really starting to look like a viable option]

11/27/2009 1:09:48 PM

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"i installed it in a VM the other day and it was not as responsive as b1. so i paved my macbook pro's boot camp partition (which i hadn't used in months) and installed a fresh win7 + vs2010 beta 2 and it's still not as snappy as i'd hoped. i'm hoping it just needs some time to warm up a bit"

guess i wasn't the only one http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2009/12/17/visual-studio-2010-and-net-4-0-update.aspx

12/17/2009 7:25:39 PM

^Yeah performance is being HEAVILY worked on. It's actually been pretty surprising (in a good way) how much time and effort is being spent on seriously lowering the memory footprint and performance across every aspect of VS and TFS.

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"had a hell of a time getting VS2008 to connect to my TFS2010 instance"

You should have just PM'ed me

Check out this blog post for the full skinny on forward compatibility: http://blogs.msdn.com/teams_wit_tools/archive/2009/10/19/compatibility-matrix-for-2010-beta-2-team-foundation-server-to-team-explorer-2008-and-2005.aspx

12/18/2009 12:20:04 PM

even with the GDR installed, i couldn't get it to work in VS2008 SP1 team explorer. i kept getting



this was my workaround http://medo64.blogspot.com/2009/11/visual-studio-2008-and-team-foundation.html

i guess i just posted all that 2 posts up. oh well. this happened on 3 different machines too, and i'm sure i got the SP1 installation order correct on the other 2


[Edited on December 18, 2009 at 12:42 PM. Reason : .]

12/18/2009 12:38:51 PM

It's definitely a problem with SP1, I'll follow up on this with you after Christmas

12/18/2009 1:15:56 PM

Performance issues delay Visual Studio 2010

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/12/performance-issues-delay-visual-studio-2010-1.ars

12/18/2009 2:37:39 PM

It's not delayed, March 22 has been the date for a while. The change is that there will be one more public release before the final RTM.

12/20/2009 4:25:24 PM

i think he's saying

Quote :

" we will also be moving the launch of Visual Studio 2010 and .NET 4 back a few weeks"

means it will be delayed past march 22

12/20/2009 10:26:19 PM

hehe

http://elegantcode.com/2009/12/24/if-successful-throw-new-exception/

12/29/2009 4:32:02 PM

THE OPERATION COMPLETED SUCCESSFULLY. PLEASE FILE A BUG REPORT!!!!

12/29/2009 4:36:05 PM

release candidate is out

http://weblogs.asp.net/scottgu/archive/2010/02/08/vs-2010-net-4-release-candidate.aspx

2/9/2010 10:20:55 AM

Lots of perf increase. Lots. Pretty amazing actually (to me anyway)

2/9/2010 11:48:36 AM

Boss comes in today and says "Great News! I finally ordered Visual Studio 2008 for the whole team, should have it in the next 3-6 months." Gotta love cutting edge state government!

2/10/2010 1:29:05 AM

http://infoworld.com/d/developer-world/infoworld-review-visual-studio-2010-delivers-182

4/14/2010 10:31:06 AM

Loving vs2010 so far! Historical Debugger is probably my favorite new feature so far with Call Hierarchy a close second. As for .Net 4, I can't wait to give the new Entity Framework a go. Being able to design the entities first and generate the SQL scripts is a huge plus.

4/14/2010 4:54:31 PM

yeah intellitrace is kick ass

i can't tell you how much time i've wasted stepping through legacy code trying to figure out what it does.

4/14/2010 5:18:39 PM

^
Hey, CrazyWeb code isn't THAT bad ... is it?

4/14/2010 8:19:59 PM