for going 76 in a 55. Can i get a prayer for judgement? i've been driving for 5 years now with no offenses and nothing else on my record. I've never been to court so i don't really know what to do about getting one. Also what are the chances the cop would show up? i got the ticket on highway 64 almost in chatham county.

5/27/2009 7:54:59 PM

sup bigbusiness, i approve this message

5/27/2009 7:55:15 PM

why the fuck did you not call a lawyer?

1) show up, see if the cop shows up.
2) if the cop doesn't show up, $profit
3) if the cop shows up, bend over and take it... I've heard that some judges will look for people who don't have a lawyer and delay their cases, but i dunno if that'll happen

5/27/2009 7:55:49 PM

^

5/27/2009 7:56:55 PM

sammy hagar syndrome

5/27/2009 7:57:01 PM

go talk to the DA. then ask for a continuance if he doesnt offer you something nice. see if he will at least knock it down to 9 over, that wont affect your insurance.

5/28/2009 12:22:55 AM

Yup, ask for a continuance, hire a lawyer, watch your problems disappear. That's how the bribe system works.

5/28/2009 12:26:48 AM

^^ what he said.

If the cop didn't knock it down to 9 over when he pulled you, and you have no priors, the DA should do it in court. I definitley wouldn't use your PFJ on this.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 12:27 AM. Reason : ^]

5/28/2009 12:27:34 AM

Quote :

"why the fuck did you not call a lawyer? 1) show up, see if the cop shows up. 2) if the cop doesn't show up, $profit 3) if the cop shows up, bend over and take it... I've heard that some judges will look for people who don't have a lawyer and delay their cases, but i dunno if that'll happen "

NO
NO
NO

you have no clue how the system works

5/28/2009 12:30:38 AM

where is the jackleg lawyer picture

5/28/2009 12:45:02 AM

fucking....






dude.










yeah.

5/28/2009 5:52:03 AM

yep... when they call your name yell out "OPEN!", then ask the DA to drop it to 9 over, if he says no tell him "I'd like to continue"... you can try this up to 3 times before they mark it last and you have to plea on your next appearance.

if you have mega big balls you can look around and see if your officer is there and then call out your plea when you hear your name if he's not. you can also ask the DA if the officer is in today before requesting a continuance, if he says no you'll want to plea. this'll earn you a state continuance, as they can't proceed with their case without their witness. 3 of these and it usually gets marked "last for state" and dropped on the next appearance if they don't have a witness. but keep in mind that he may just be running late or out of the court room, and lawyers have a lot more flexibility with evading the actual trial if the cop shows up, so...

then, you should get a real lawyer if it matters, because they can grab your case off the docket and disappear into another court room if your officer is there, and sit around demanding to be tried if he's not.. the DA will also probably negotiate with him a little more seriously. but don't think the lawyer's going to do much more than play the system himself, he's definitely not gonna stand up there and argue that you're innocent

9 over is 0 insurance points, so it doesn't affect your insurance rates. you'll get cost of court ($150 now?) and a small fine.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 7:11 AM. Reason : .]

5/28/2009 6:56:42 AM

rules for using your PJC:

1) don't fucking use your PJC on a traffic ticket.

your best bet is to get it reduced to improper equipment or 9 over.

5/28/2009 7:20:43 AM

I say take the full blow of the ticket you prick and slow the fuck down

5/28/2009 7:26:07 AM

^ hahaha

5/28/2009 7:43:50 AM

this thread is funny - I love how everyone says, "Hire a lawyer!"

What the hell can a lawyer do that you can't? I mean seriously, you were clocked with a radar lock (most likely) and a signed sworn statement by a police officer. Furthermore, you signed the ticket agreeing to the terms. Lawyers just exploit peoples fears, they're useless unless the ticket was received out of state where you can't appear in court for logistical reasons.

Honestly, show up in a nice suit, prepare a 30 second speech AGREEING with the ticket (don't ever say "I wasn't going that fast" or disagree, you'll pay big time), apologize, state your past driving record, and offer to do (15 hours?) of community service, and mail in a signed time sheet (or show back up if they prefer) documenting it. It'll suck, but your insurance will jump for 3 years...

5/28/2009 7:44:50 AM

^and for some credibility, I got a triple digit ticket DISMISSED for this approach (although 25 hrs of community service I offered). Not court costs, no 9 over crap, no fines....they were so impressed the DA dismissed it fully.

Oh Yea, try to avoid the judge if possible, they can't stretch the rules like the DA can.

5/28/2009 7:47:38 AM

homeslice, edit your post and quit double posting

5/28/2009 7:52:25 AM

they're telling him to get a lawyer because getting a lawyer works. the courts would rather lower it to 9 over or improper equipment than to deal with your lawyer.

5/28/2009 7:53:27 AM

^its called post editing, try it sometime

Quote :

"What the hell can a lawyer do that you can't?"

your fucking stupid, if you really think that.

5/28/2009 7:54:21 AM

Quote :

"your fucking stupid"

EDIT YOU'RE POST. QUICK.

5/28/2009 7:56:31 AM

If it's in Wake County then I would see if they'll reduce it. I was going 80 in a 65 not too long ago but had a clean record and they reduced it, and I think it was $121 total. If the DA will not reduce it, get a lawyer then and have it continued.

5/28/2009 8:08:52 AM

i got a ticket out of state, i showed up for the court date

the cop did not show, and they threw it out, no fines, no nothing

5/28/2009 8:39:48 AM

i've been to court half a dozen times in the past 5 years...i admit that i have a lead foot, but that's changed since i got a tiny-engined saturn

anyway, i've never had a lawyer and only ONE out of those six tickets has ever resulted in me paying anything (and then it was only court costs plus a $25 fine after it was reduced to 4 over)

i've yet to find a good reason to pay a lawyer for what i can do myself...i hope that never changes

5/28/2009 8:47:07 AM

Hmmm... why hire a lawyer? Because for a couple hundred bucks I don't have to drive to the courthouse where I got my ticket (often out of town). I don't have to worry about presenting a case or whether or not some cop is going to show up. I don't have to put on a suit, act apologetic, make up lame excuses, have a 30 second spiel or heaven forbid do 25 hours of community service like some of you have suggested.

I make 1 phone call, send them a check, and get my 95 in a 65 reduced to "improper muffler." I'd say it's easily worth that. (Total cost for this lawyer and court costs = $250).

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 9:01 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2009 9:01:14 AM

legal eagles itt

5/28/2009 9:02:43 AM

Quote :

"you'll get cost of court ($150 now?)"

Just got out of court Tuesday, $121.

5/28/2009 9:04:11 AM

This is relevant to my interests. I got 70 in a 55 this past weekend, but I have a prior 68/55 three years ago (reduced to 9 over).

What's the difference between the DA and the judge? How does one talk to just the DA? Can you just roll up whenever and talk to him?

5/28/2009 9:07:40 AM

^^^^ ah, to each their own, i suppose...only one was out of town, so the drive was negligible...most were during school, so it's not like i had to take off work...i've never worn a suit to court, usually just khakis and a button-up shirt with a tie...i also think it's FUN to go to court...i enjoy the excitement of seeing how much i can get away with

also, $250 x 6 = $1500 which is a lot of money for what is less than 8 hours of my life...i don't make $190/hour, so that's a lot of money for being lazy

*shrug*

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 9:09 AM. Reason : carats]

5/28/2009 9:09:44 AM

I need to figure out what I'm going to do about my ticket...70 in a 55 heading to Nag's Head. I've had a warning here and there but this is my first ticket.

edit: I also need to figure out WHERE I put the ticket.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 9:20 AM. Reason : ]

5/28/2009 9:19:55 AM

if only there was a thread for this subject

5/28/2009 9:21:31 AM

ibtl

5/28/2009 9:23:59 AM

Quote :

"if only there was a thread for this subject"

And why the fuck would you wait till the last minute to ask this.

5/28/2009 9:26:07 AM

^ you would be surprised how many people roll into or call my work the day of court

5/28/2009 10:25:55 AM

do you still lose your license for a month if you do 15 over in a 55? If so, hire a lawyer

5/28/2009 10:29:04 AM

Quote :

"I make 1 phone call, send them a check, and get my 95 in a 65 reduced to "improper muffler.""

lol

5/28/2009 10:33:17 AM

Money talks, nobody walks.

5/28/2009 11:46:04 AM

You can get a prayer for my ballsack son.

5/28/2009 11:47:32 AM

you don't need a lawyer for a PJC. Just ask the judge for it. If he/she denies it, which he/she most likely won't, then just ask for a continuance and try again with the next judge.

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 11:50 AM. Reason : a]

5/28/2009 11:49:42 AM

the thread dedicated to this topic would be a better place to look for answers.
message_topic.aspx?topic=389230

5/28/2009 11:50:56 AM

Quote :

"rules for using your PJC: 1) don't fucking use your PJC on a traffic ticket."

single best thing you have ever said, ever

[Edited on May 28, 2009 at 11:52 AM. Reason : s]

5/28/2009 11:51:35 AM

Oh damn. I never realized you could use a PJC on anything other than traffic tickets.

5/28/2009 11:53:24 AM

^ yea but your normally have to do a LOT of community service to use it on a criminal charge

5/28/2009 11:58:37 AM

better than prison

5/28/2009 11:59:13 AM

^^ well yeah, I know about the First Offender program for misdemeanors, but I thought that was different than a PJC

5/28/2009 12:02:24 PM

call in the gov'na

5/28/2009 12:03:09 PM

^^ first offender program is different normally involves classes of some variety and cs, sometimes your attorney can get you just cs and a pjc no first offenders classes that cost monies

5/28/2009 12:21:53 PM

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"Furthermore, you signed the ticket agreeing to the terms."

This is the first sign that you don't know what you're talking about. You sign the ticket as acknowledgment that you received the ticket. You're not signing to agree that the cop is right and you are guilty.

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"I got a triple digit ticket DISMISSED for this approach (although 25 hrs of community service I offered)."

Wow...I'm impressed. You put your license at stake and did hundreds of dollars worth of free work and came out slightly better than you would have if you had just payed $300 to a lawyer. We're all really in awe of you right now.

You could have just as easily been stripped of your license and had your insurance rate triple whenever you finally got it back. Great advice...I highly recommend everyone try this approach.

Quote :

"rules for using your PJC: 1) don't fucking use your PJC on a traffic ticket."

I regret not using mine. Looking back, it could have saved me quite a bit of money on insurance. If you don't have any involvement in drugs and you don't do other stupid stuff then it's pretty unlikely that you'll ever get any charges worse than a bad traffic ticket.

5/28/2009 12:23:40 PM

Can I use a PJC if I get arrested for picking up a prostitute?

If so, then I am going to save mine for that.

5/28/2009 12:26:31 PM

dj w/ the lols

5/28/2009 12:27:34 PM