omg, its FINALLY here. they just started voting. I hope the reformists win...i haven't really seen any polls so i dont know if Ahmadinejad is like a sure thing or its actually close. from western reports it seems to be close. Go Reformists!

[Edited on June 12, 2009 at 12:48 AM. Reason : official capitalize every first letter thread =/]

6/12/2009 12:48:14 AM

Holocaust denials FTL.

6/12/2009 12:49:38 AM

i dont get the holocaust denial thing. everytime i hear Ahmadinejad clarify to a western reporter, say george stephanopolous, he just says if it happened in europe why didnt they just establish israel there. I kinda happen to agree with that.

6/12/2009 12:50:50 AM

but it's so much more fun if you give the Jews the most passionately-disputed, blood-soaked piece of land on Earth

it was a sure recipe for peace

6/12/2009 12:52:23 AM

i'm just saying, i dont find that view to be a denial of the holocaust. more of a "if it happened there, it would make sense to take their land to establish a state for them" view

6/12/2009 12:53:31 AM

it wasn't just a matter of giving the Jews a homeland, unfortunately...people wanted to give them back their old homeland

but I happen to agree with you...why not just slice a chunk out of Germany and give it to the Jews. problem solved, and the world doesn't have this endlessly-festering sore that is the Israeli-Palestinian conflict

but I guess everybody was feeling charitable to the Jews on account of the Holocaust and all

6/12/2009 12:56:17 AM

and its like israel cant even fucking do one simple thing like stop settlements...and syria wants mfing golan heights...

[Edited on June 12, 2009 at 12:59 AM. Reason : how u gonna get GH if u cant even stop the country from something like settlements]

6/12/2009 12:58:38 AM

It was white guilt. Americans and europeans felt bad about not doing fuck all about the extermination of the jews, so they bent over for the jews after the war.

6/12/2009 1:01:42 AM

anyhow oh well...i'm guessing its obvious the US wants the reformists to win. Like i've said the way our press is covering it, it seems pretty close. not that it makes that big a difference. but hey i hope for some change

i will admit, i think Ahmadinejad is a cunning little fellow no homo, so 4 more years of him wouldnt be so bad

6/12/2009 1:08:25 AM

oh yeah, while talking about israel post-war being a clusterfuck, almost goes without saying that iran was also our clusterfuck. the cold war was quite a showcase of idiotic policies -- don't think we learned fuck from it, though.

6/12/2009 1:31:49 AM

yeah man the entire 1980's is full of stupid shit as far as us and Iran is concerned.

6/12/2009 1:32:58 AM

wrong section

soap box is thatta way ---->

6/12/2009 1:35:21 AM

dude this is iran...it deserves a chit chat thread

6/12/2009 2:09:34 AM

Do votes actually mean anything in Iran?

6/12/2009 2:39:17 AM

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"and its like israel cant even fucking do one simple thing like stop settlements"

whoa whoa whoa...israel does some screwed up stuff, but they've made all sorts of concessions and compromises in the past, to no avail. half of the problem is that many on the other side aren't going to be happy with any compromised solution.

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"yeah man the entire 1980's is full of stupid shit as far as us and Iran is concerned."

we made plenty of mistakes with Iran well before the 1980s!

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"Do votes actually mean anything in Iran?"

yes, but getting a good president in there is only a piece of the puzzle. there's still the supreme leader, and several councils.

6/12/2009 4:05:00 AM

Quote :

"i dont get the holocaust denial thing. everytime i hear Ahmadinejad clarify to a western reporter, say george stephanopolous, he just says if it happened in europe why didnt they just establish israel there. I kinda happen to agree with that."

lmao

6/12/2009 7:06:11 AM

damn, i skimmed this page and had to check and make sure i wasn't in soapbox

6/12/2009 8:15:18 AM

Quote :

"why not just slice a chunk out of Germany and give it to the Jews."

So the master plan is to settle right in the middle of the country that was trying to exterminate you a few years prior. Now that you're all rounded up together within the border of your recent ex-enemy you don't have to worry. Germany probably only had two World Wars in her

Of course I don't see how Israel is much better - far worse in hindsight.

So, were the Jews just given the land... "Here' ya' go!" or did they actually purchase it from people? Where the owners of the land coerced into selling? (Serious question).

6/12/2009 10:01:40 AM

ibt "this is soapbox shit" lock/suspend/delete

6/12/2009 10:05:12 AM

my vote goes to osama


oh wait, or was it obama?

6/12/2009 10:22:59 AM

Quote :

"So, were the Jews just given the land... "Here' ya' go!" or did they actually purchase it from people? Where the owners of the land coerced into selling? (Serious question)."

god gave it to them, duh

6/12/2009 10:24:17 AM

6/12/2009 10:25:47 AM

Don't get me wrong, I despise holocaust deniers.
But, I hate even more the tendency by some to label as holocaust deniers those who do something as little as question some numbers.

"X number of people were killed by the nazis"
"Are you sure it wasn't Y number of people?" (Y < X)
"OMG YOU FUCKING HOLOCAUST DENIER!!!!"


^^
gg

6/12/2009 10:32:03 AM

HOLY FUCKING STOP THE PRESSES

I THINK ME AND WILLY JUST AGREED ON SOMETHING

WE *GASP* SHARED THE SAME VIEW

MY HEAD IS GONNA EXPLODE

6/12/2009 10:34:00 AM

Quote :

"we made plenty of mistakes with Iran well before the 1980s!"

no shit! but the 80's were especially bad

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"god gave it to them, duh"

dont wanna open that can of worms, but if god let the holocaust happen in europe, we shoulda carved out a chunk of europe and given it to them

6/12/2009 10:49:04 AM

they didn't want europe

they wanted the promised land

6/12/2009 10:49:48 AM

well maybe they should have been exterminated then, for stupidity

6/12/2009 10:51:13 AM

By that logic, somebody needs to cap your ass right now.

6/12/2009 10:55:51 AM

Thank you for making my previous post a success. Thats what I was going for.

6/12/2009 10:57:43 AM

Quote :

"Religion's in the hands of some crazy-ass people!"

-Jimmy Buffett

6/12/2009 10:57:56 AM

bttt...any results in yet? havent had a chance to read the news since noon

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"With more than 20 million votes counted, Ahmadinejad had 66.1 percent and Mousavi had 31.6 percent, said Kamran Daneshjoo, a senior officials with the Interior Ministry, which oversees the voting. "

[Edited on June 12, 2009 at 8:43 PM. Reason : .]

6/12/2009 8:41:49 PM

don't you know we liberals want Ahmadinejad to win so he and Obama can team up and take our guns and give them to turrrsts?

6/12/2009 8:43:34 PM

lawl

6/12/2009 9:08:48 PM

ahahaha. iranian presidential election. what an oxymoron.

6/12/2009 11:13:22 PM

if i woulda known making this thread would have led to riots i wouldn't have made it =/ i have blood on my hands now

6/15/2009 6:47:35 PM

^^

6/15/2009 6:48:21 PM

Iran is actually run by ayatollah ali khamenei and his party, this election was always a sham and its no secret that he and his party chose all the candidates. Even being able to pick the runners he's still too much of a shitbiscuit to even let the people have an actual choice from among those.

6/15/2009 7:07:52 PM

Ahmadinejad Debate (06/10/09)

http://tinyurl.com/mc9kxj


[Edited on June 15, 2009 at 7:12 PM. Reason : .]

6/15/2009 7:10:54 PM

Quote :

"whoa whoa whoa...israel does some screwed up stuff, but they've made all sorts of concessions and compromises in the past, to no avail. half of the problem is that many on the other side aren't going to be happy with any compromised solution"

6/15/2009 8:43:28 PM

zionists itt

6/15/2009 8:52:28 PM

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/

Great coverage.

6/16/2009 12:26:14 AM

looks like fun times

6/16/2009 12:32:01 AM

whats happening right now is literally the best thing that coulda happened out of this

6/16/2009 12:33:04 AM

pro-ahmadinejad demonstration???? I bet these people were just forced to do a pro-dickhead demonstration

6/16/2009 9:59:24 AM

ttt

god you fucking suck...

6/17/2009 1:14:07 PM

supposedly some protesters were chanting "death to khamenei" yesterday

6/21/2009 4:38:17 PM

ive been watching iranian national tv on 'chris tv online'

made a thread about it like last weekend.. should be easy to find

6/21/2009 5:06:58 PM

^^Probably dead today

6/21/2009 5:09:17 PM

^not yet

6/21/2009 5:10:16 PM

i like how some of the soccer team wore green. 4 of rafsanjanis relatives got taken into custody last night but apparently all of them have been released now. hes been critical of the ayatollah and ahmadinejad before. i sure hope this doesnt die down =/

6/21/2009 5:44:54 PM