My little bro is coming to State in the fall and I need to give him a HS graduation gift. I'm cheap/broke so if someone would bump that thread and condense it into a word or pdf file that would be great (bullets are nice). K, thnx.

6/13/2009 1:22:55 PM

aha where's that long ass post

6/13/2009 1:25:01 PM

i always bought my little brother alcohol

6/13/2009 1:25:02 PM

if you search there is a serious thread about this in study hall or the lounge...

6/13/2009 1:29:18 PM

hahaha i am pretty sure there was a thread in chit-chat too

6/13/2009 1:31:35 PM

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=538198

6/13/2009 3:05:41 PM

tell him not to be "that guy" that looks for the location of his classrooms the day before class

6/13/2009 4:06:00 PM

For fuck's sake, don't take any 8 am classes. You will never go. Ever.

6/13/2009 4:07:45 PM

message_topic.aspx?topic=494118
Maybe one of the mods can bump it?

6/13/2009 4:08:25 PM

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=118304

[Edited on June 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM. Reason : a gem of knowledge from FK]

6/13/2009 4:09:27 PM

Well? Who is going to do it for me?

6/13/2009 6:27:20 PM

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"For fuck's sake, don't take any 8 am classes. You will never go. Ever. "

Haha, I was just thinking the other day about how much I hated 8:00 am classes (even though I did pretty much always go), compared to how awesome I think it is nowadays on the occasions when I get to wait until 8:00 am to show up to work.

6/13/2009 7:24:34 PM

my biggest thing was my faulty assumption that since I had to start high school at 7:20am, an 8:00am college course would be no problem

yeah, I never signed up for another 8:00am course again after my first semester in college

6/13/2009 7:28:14 PM

make sure he knows that any urge to have unprotected sex is spurred by lack of sex education, not desire for pleasure

6/13/2009 7:31:11 PM

condoms

6/13/2009 7:58:52 PM

free condoms from shc

6/13/2009 8:00:06 PM

all you need to know right thurr.

6/13/2009 8:13:56 PM

My first semester at state I had academic writing M,T,Th,F @ 8:05. It was brutal so I would literally just walk in and within 5 minutes I was asleep on my desk. Never bothered to bring the book to class or buy them for that matter. The professor sat me down about 1/2 through the semester and asked me if I had health issues. I got an A on the final (it was a class discussion) because it was the first time anyone had heard me talk in class and people were shocked. I ended up with a B+ but I was 'that guy.'

6/13/2009 9:05:07 PM

JUST THE TIP

6/15/2009 4:05:22 PM

Love him or hate him, Noen brings the truth. This is the long post that he made on that other thread that no one can find.

http://www.snotmonkey.com/articles/34-things-to-make-your-time-at-ncsu-more-enjoyable/

Quote :

"Let me spill out the REAL gems. 1) Registration means NOTHING. If you want in a class and it’s full (which it will be until you are a junior), GO TO THE CLASS ANYWAY. Go the first three days AT LEAST, and 90% chance you will get in. Get the classes you WANT, don’t let your advisor or anyone else tell you differently. 2) DO NOT BUY BOOKS. Wait at LEAST two weeks before buying text books. Then your textbook is over 50 bucks, borrow it from a stupid classmate, and take it to Kinko’s and photocopy it (500 pages runs about 17.50). Much easier to highlight and carry around. I put the chapters for each book i needed along with paper in a single 2 1/2? notebook. 3) Find a friend with a car, or several if possible. The busses suck for everything but drunken rides home. Cars are awsome. If you have a car, bring it. There are TONS of hidden places to park around state without needing a permit or pass. Also there are always people selling permits the first couple weeks of school, and especially after christmas. 4) The meal plan and boardbucks are a joke. After your mandatory freshman year, don’t waste you or your parent’s money. You can eat much better and cheaper from the grocery store, and there are plenty within bus/walking distance of school. Refer to #3 to get to the good stores. 5) Take at LEAST one design course. They are the best way to relieve stress, meet girls, and find crazy people to party with. Also take at least one Psychology course, also great for meeting the ladies. 6) DO NOT BUY PRINT QUOTA. Go to the Chass Lab or cheat the unity system if you need to print something on campus. Print Quota is a waste of money. Never buy a wolfcopy card either. 7) If you need to print BIG stuff, go to the School of Design labs. They have HUGE full color plotters that only cost $2.40 per linear foot and you can cheat out of these as well (also remember to print everything as PDF) 8) NEVER DO FIRST YEAR COLLEGE. It is a complete waste of money. Pick a major, if you dont like it change, FYC is a joke and just sets you on the path to nowhere. 9) Get a laptop. Desktops are big and ugly. 10) Don’t get suckered into buying a loft. Wait out your freshman year and get one for free at the end of spring semester when all the other people move out. If you can find a good one for 20 bucks or less then buy it. 11) USE THE GYM. Go and go often, its the best deal for a full gym you will ever have. 12) Never use the health center. In my 3.5 years they NEVER diagnosed me correctly, nor did any of my friends get diagnosed correctly. Go to a real doctor, and stick with them. 13) Never apply for ANY credit card on campus or that is sent to you in the mail. 14) Open a student checking account with the SECU or BB&T. If you need a credit card, get one through them. Keep about 100 bucks in there, don’t bounce any checks. You will get rewarded big time when you graduate and get a real job. 15) Go downtown. Live after 5, First Fridays, many other kickass events happen downtown, and they are free and fun. 16) Don’t take on a steady boyfriend of girlfriend until at LEAST your junior year. You will miss out on much of the college experience if you don’t wait. Don’t let occasional sex bother you, it’s college, no one will remember anyway. 17) UT sucks, don’t live there unless you plan to dropout anyway. Get an apartment or house before UT. 18) Along the same lines, everyone should spend at least their first year on campus. Preferably their first two years. Definitely get out and do stuff, it’s when you will meet most of your lifelong college friends. 19) Never do anything more than 20 hours a week. 20) If you want to work, get a work study. 21) The library is good for two things: cramming before exams, and sex in the stacks. There is little need to ever venture in there otherwise. 22) Meet a couple of upperclassmen in your major. Find out who the best prof’s and best classes are. Shedule ahead to get in those classes. 23) Never be afriad to challenge a grade or a decision by a professor. Fight the system and you will usually win. 24) Remember college is NOT to prepare you for a specific career, it is to make you a well rounded individual. Do not choose a major based on it’s career paths, choose a major based on YOUR INTEREST. 25) Refrain from keg stands, beer bongs, and all other binge drinking methods. Binge drinkers are not cool, and you will be talked about for all the wrong reasons. The sober guys are the ones who take home the ladies. 26) Don’t even bother with a fake ID in raleigh. Go to house parties until you are 21. Seriously it isnt worth the chance of getting busted. Don’t drive drunk underage. 27) If you live on campus, and you are drunk at a party, DO NOT GO BACK TO YOUR DORM ROOM. Stay at a friends, or crash at the party house for the night if possible. 28) Take philosophy of religion. At least open yourself to questioning your faith, it will only make it stronger. 29) Take at least one PE course every semester. Learn something new, find a new pasttime. 30) Be outside at least 4 hours a day doing something when it is above 65. 31) If you want to rush your freshman year, go ahead. But dont pledge until your sophmore year. And even then, think about it, college can be a lot more fun with no strings attached. 32) Go to EVERY organizational meeting in the fall. It can account for at least HALF of your meals for several months. Join the ones that you are actually interested in only after all the freebees have stopped. 33) GO POTLUCK. Living with someone you already know sucks ass. 34) DO NOT BUY A COMPUTER FROM THE BOOKSTORE/BEST BUY/CIRCUIT CITY. Go Online. Get one from DELL when they run a special (they ALWAYS run a special). Save yourself a lot of money. OR Wait until you meet a nerd in your suite/dorm who will build you a custom computer for practically nothing."

[Edited on June 15, 2009 at 4:12 PM. Reason : .]

6/15/2009 4:11:06 PM

i have a problem with #26- is it saying it's ok to drive drunk when you are of age?

6/15/2009 4:21:40 PM

^ very true... wish I knew more of that before my freshman year

6/15/2009 4:24:17 PM

its hard to accept other people's advice about something like this. the only way people truly learn is by trial and error.

6/15/2009 4:53:38 PM

The no girlfriend the first two years I agree with.

6/15/2009 5:01:40 PM

protip: don't do bicep curls in the max racks, thanks

6/15/2009 5:03:38 PM

i'd a probably done it all differently

6/15/2009 5:03:43 PM

my ex has a book called "a man, a can, a plan" and it's like a cookbook with really easy recipes for manly food. half of the recipes call for a bottle of Heineken.

6/15/2009 5:04:10 PM

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"DO NOT BUY PRINT QUOTA. Go to the Chass Lab or cheat the unity system if you need to print something on campus. Print Quota is a waste of money. Never buy a wolfcopy card either. "

Here, Noen's hard line stance on piracy is brought into question.

6/15/2009 5:07:43 PM

I would have done 1/10th of the work I did and gotten into 10 times as much trouble

and I'd still probably be right where I am today, if not some place better

6/15/2009 5:07:53 PM

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"message_topic.aspx?topic=494118 Maybe one of the mods can bump it?"

gunzz can bring it btt.

6/15/2009 5:11:47 PM

I think that list was written by a nerd.

6/15/2009 9:23:53 PM

NERDS!

[Edited on June 15, 2009 at 9:27 PM. Reason : .]

6/15/2009 9:26:50 PM

That list is rock solid. I agree with most of it, especially living on campus for two years and not in UT. I lived in UT freshmen year and moved off campus after that. I will add that when you move off campus try to get a place on the other side of hillsborough st. I lived within walking distance in houses for five years and it's nice being able to walk/bike to class and not having to pay for parking.

6/15/2009 9:48:57 PM

tell him to stay away from tke

6/15/2009 10:30:28 PM

UT is the shit. That is where everything goes down. After freshman year, you'll be like i should have stayed where all the hot chicks were. Even nerds can get action

6/15/2009 10:32:34 PM

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"26) Don’t even bother with a fake ID in raleigh."

6/15/2009 10:44:22 PM

i don't really like that list

6/15/2009 10:45:15 PM

if he wants to be cool to be cool he need to bring more than one slut to a party.

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"For fuck's sake, don't take any 8 am classes. You will never go. Ever. "

isnt that had to avoid ?

6/15/2009 10:48:05 PM

I like a lot of that list. There are parts I can't personally vouch for (like parking -- never had any luck finding a place to park without a permit or something), but overall it seems reasonable.

I want to emphasize number 8:

First Year College is basically just having to go to a class twice a week for no credit, and that class is nothing but the bullshit your guidance counselor used to make you do in elementary and middle school. I signed up because I didn't do my research and thought it was a good idea for people who weren't sure of a major. That's not the case. If you're determined to throw your money into a hole, please just throw it into an actual hole and bury it -- don't encourage those morons to keep FYC alive.

And for God's sake, #16. Follow it. Have sex with everyone you can. It will never be that easy again. I missed out on it and still hate myself for it.

I do disagree with number 6, though. My main reason is that if you fucking pirates keep coming in and stealing CHASS printing, soon they'll start charging us for it.

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The best advice I can give is to buy Collegehumor's Guide to College, which is a book that I received late in my undergrad career at NCSU. It's funny and, as much as I hate to admit it, it's one of the most accurate books I've ever read. If you can read between the lines at all (and pick up sarcasm when it's obvious), you can get much valuable information .

6/15/2009 10:57:53 PM

Quote :

"34) DO NOT BUY A COMPUTER FROM THE BOOKSTORE/BEST BUY/CIRCUIT CITY. Go Online. Get one from DELL when they run a special (they ALWAYS run a special). Save yourself a lot of money. OR Wait until you meet a nerd in your suite/dorm who will build you a custom computer for practically nothing.""

I don't support this Rule 34. Buying my laptop at the bookstore has been a life saver. Most of my friends have gone through 1-2 laptops and most of the Dell laptops suck ass. Getting an Lenovo/IBM through the bookstore has let me turn it in for free warranty work and they give me a loaner laptop so I'm never without a computer.

I actually use it as a selling point when talking to high school recruits as an example of the little things that NC State does for its students.

6/15/2009 11:17:10 PM

29) Take at least one PE course every semester. Learn something new, find a new pasttime.

haha wha?

parks and leasure major?

6/15/2009 11:39:17 PM

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"And for God's sake, #16. Follow it. Have sex with everyone you can. It will never be that easy again. I missed out on it and still hate myself for it."

Sex is still pretty easy...years after college. Actually finding that it gets easier by the year.

6/16/2009 12:32:46 AM

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"I actually use it as a selling point when talking to high school recruits as an example of the little things that NC State does for its students."

Hey man, not wanting to burst the bubble on this but that program is likely to be discontinued not too far from now. Computers will still be sold through the bookstore at discounted prices with a 3 year limited warranty, and you can still get tech support, but it won't be through the Bookstore. There will be another entity on campus that will provide the servicing for these laptops so that the bookstore isn't running a computer technician sweatshop in the back in my old boss's boss's office. Whether that entity will continue to provide a loaner laptop program remains to be seen. It's also up in the air whether or not this will be happening any time soon.

One thing that is interesting to note about the Bookstore's current facility is that it's going to be abandoned (possibly refurbished or demolished) once an extension is built onto Talley Student Center. That grassy spot just to the north of where the dining halls are? The one with the wall around it? Yeah... That's gonna go away for more space so the university bookstore can have some respectable facilities AND so that students can actually have a proper student center! Should be nifty. That's a few years out, though.

But yeah, advice for n00bs... Um... Just don't be a fucking cave troll like I was. Stay in a suite-style dormitory (bathrooms will be cleaner, easier to establish rules about bathrooms, you don't have to walk halfway across the building to get to a bathroom and don't have to carry a key to get in OR have to lock your bedroom door when you go to take a shower. If you want to go to grad school and do research, start talking to professors your second or third semester at the university and try to land a summer research assistant job.

Look out for trifling whores that act all nice in class because they want you to do their work for them (see CSC 116). Don't be a douchebag. Seriously, don't be a douchebag. Outside of that have fun. You're not going to have this much freedom again in your entire life. Just remember to focus on class and to keep your GPA up pretty high because the job market will still be very competitive once he graduates (the fallout from this economic shit right now is going to last a long time for some industries).

6/16/2009 12:51:37 AM

props to Noen....I don't agree with everything he says, but his list was downright superb (in all senses) when you take it all around

6/16/2009 12:56:02 AM

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" I don't support this Rule 34. Buying my laptop at the bookstore has been a life saver. Most of my friends have gone through 1-2 laptops and most of the Dell laptops suck ass. Getting an Lenovo/IBM through the bookstore has let me turn it in for free warranty work and they give me a loaner laptop so I'm never without a computer."

Keep in mind that this was written like 6 years ago. That's pretty awesome actually.

Quote :

"Here, Noen's hard line stance on piracy is brought into question."

Again, 6 years ago. The University since changed it's policies, and closed the loophole. But you should still print from the CHASS lab if you can My problem was, in my day (99-02) there were many courses that required you to hand in printouts from a campus lab. There was absolutely no way to get around paying for a copycard. And there were two different systems, neither associated with your student ID.

I should update the list to make it a little more current (at least current as of 2005).

6/16/2009 1:03:25 AM

The keg stand is a right of passage when it comes to college. Also, learn to play beer pong well before college. You will like the results

6/16/2009 1:08:55 AM

http://www.snotmonkey.com/articles/34-things-to-make-your-time-at-ncsu-more-enjoyable/

I updated it a bit. Now at least it's only 4 years out of date

6/16/2009 1:49:50 AM

Noen has brilliantly touched on basically everything.

Can't comment on the "no relationships for 2 years" rule, though I guess it's pretty sound. In fact, I can't comment on sex and relationships period. While having had sex and at least one or more relationships in high school isn't a prerequisite, the lack of these things can make it difficult to do so in college since you will not have established the necessary maturity and experience. If you're not careful, your sex life could remain non-existent, and any future chances of relationships shot. The odds of this happening increase exponentially if you're socially stunted like me.

Remember that college isn't only about classes and homework and grades. While it's very important that you keep up good grades and GPA (especially if you want a shot at a good job in this shitty economy, and even then there's no guarantee), don't forget that this is also an opportunity for you to try new things and have some fun. After this the only thing you have to look forward to is a 9-5 job and a mortgage and bills that slave you to that job, so have some fun while you've still got the time and the good health. OTOH, how much free time you get will depend on your chosen major; if you're going into engineering, you'll have lots of free time for the first couple of semesters, but once you start loading up the 300 and 400 level classes you'll begin to have less and less of a life.

6/16/2009 1:51:35 AM

Oh yeah, make sure you see a fucking doctor from time to time so your health problems don't snowball while you're in college.

Do not go to student health for these basic checkups. Get a local doctor or go to an urgent care center.

6/16/2009 2:23:05 AM

set em up

6/16/2009 2:35:47 AM