My friends and I have theorized that by 2012, either the Democratic party or the Republican party (or both) may fully dissolve leading to the following scenarios:
Libertarians (very limited govt. on all counts) vs. Republicans (govt. handles moral issues, but not economic)
or
Theocrats (Moral Right) vs. Capitalists (Economic Right)
or
Libertarians vs. Theocrats vs. Capitalists

Any thoughts on this matter?

6/15/2009 5:18:55 PM

yes... the party that maintained near absolute power 4 years ago

and the party that maintains near absolute power now...

yeah... that's going to happen

6/15/2009 5:22:29 PM

So after it all falls apart, the only powers remaining are 3 different factions of the right? I honestly don't see libertarians as ever breaking free of the GOP.

6/15/2009 5:38:00 PM

Republicans versus Democrats

6/15/2009 5:43:38 PM

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6/15/2009 5:46:39 PM

i know this is for 2012+, but who DOESNT think the dems are gonna get their asses handed to them in 2010?

6/15/2009 6:49:32 PM

most people?

have you seen what the republicans have been offering up as an alternative to dems?

6/15/2009 6:53:43 PM

The New Republican Party DUH!!! Getting back to conservative roots with premier new ideas with leaders such as..



Rush Limbaugh



Darth Cheney



Sarah Palin

6/15/2009 7:02:01 PM

poll numbers are not looking good

6/15/2009 7:08:50 PM

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"I honestly don't see libertarians as ever breaking free of the GOP."

And yet I ask santa claus for this every year....

6/15/2009 7:35:56 PM

Part of me wishes the Libertarians would break free. I wouldn't join the party or anything, but I might vote for some of their candidates.

There may be a split in the Republican party, and it may be on roughly along some of the lines you describe, but I don't think it will be so clear cut. It wasn't long ago that the mainstream Republican party managed to balance moral and economic issues with some competence.

Ideally, the religious hardliners -- for lack of a better term -- would be pushed into their own party, leaving Republicans who still care about moral issues but don't work themselves into a frothing rage over them all the time. And ideally (if only for the sake of balance, to have two competitive main parties) certain elements of the Democratic base/party would then change affiliation to join the more moderate Republican party, or they'd have their own split, though I'm not sure what the camps would be.

6/15/2009 10:32:35 PM

A split would have to be engineered, and i don't know of any competent person working on engineering a split.

Ron Paul is too insane, and the Republicans don't seem to be motivated enough to potentially alienate the religious right.

6/15/2009 10:36:08 PM

Eh, given a couple of years, it could still happen.

6/15/2009 10:44:11 PM

the republican party is worthless without the religious right.

the democratic party still has to pander to the god fearing members of society. When they stop then maybe the republicans can take a breather and everyone can start having adult converstations.

6/15/2009 10:49:12 PM

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"the republican party is worthless without the religious right."

I will continue to see the liberal hippy douche policies of the democratic parties as the lesser of two evils until I can be assured that a vote for a GOP president is not a vote for Jesusland bible thumper policies. Optimistically i would like to see the neo-con corporatists who hide behind the rhetoric of "free markets" to rationalize policies specifically catered to the benefit of their huge conglomerate patrons (i.e halliburton, banking industry) but for now i'll stick to ousting the right-wing religious moonbats.

6/15/2009 11:47:28 PM

Democrats are fairly stout right now. Republicans are struggling though. People are finally seeing through their bullshit economic theories that fucked everyone in the ass and lumping them in with the religious right regardless of whether they believe that shit or not. If there's gonna be a split anywhere it's gonna be with the Republicans because the religious right is going to alienate themselves. They've been whored for all their worth and now they're worthless. The fact that Sarah Palin is even considered as one of the leading candidates for 2012 is absolutely ridiculous. This is how it will go down...

Primaries begin, Sarah Palin is top 2 or 3 in the running for Republican candidate. She loses. Decides she's worth much more than she really is. Runs as an independent. Republican party splits between religious moonbats who support her and rational people that don't. They're stomped. End of Republican party. Beginning of something I can't possibly imagine right now. I don't think it will be good either. Anytime either party holds onto power too long is bad.

6/16/2009 12:22:52 AM

2012 probably depends on which one the media picks anyways

6/16/2009 12:50:21 AM

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"2012 probably depends on which one the media picks anyways "

Since the Liberal Media obviously wanted a big Spender like George Dubya to win twice in a row.

6/16/2009 12:54:45 PM

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"Any thoughts on this matter?"

my thoughts are that you and your friends' mental states were altered when having this discussion. i'm guessing weed. plz to confirm/deny.

6/16/2009 1:10:33 PM

^^i think in 2000 the media wanted bush to win...in 2004 it was a wash cause of the iraq war

6/16/2009 1:20:54 PM

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"my thoughts are that you and your friends' mental states were altered when having this discussion. i'm guessing weed. plz to confirm/deny."

It was more of a conclusion I drew after reading several Soap Box threads that pointed to dissension in the Republican ranks between moral and economic and also people leaning more Libertarian rather than Democratic, since people are becoming more aware of what happens with direct government intervention (rather than keen enforcement of regulation).

This did spur some decent discussion, more than I expected. In retrospect, I should have put "2016" rather than "2012", which is the time frame my friends and I discussed anyway, since it takes years for a party to completely meltdown and/or change their name.

[Edited on June 16, 2009 at 1:30 PM. Reason : .]

6/16/2009 1:29:07 PM

yeah 2012 is laughable

and you didn't confirm or deny.

6/16/2009 1:36:26 PM

Deny. I'm too poor to afford drugs.

6/16/2009 1:42:44 PM

Dems, enjoy the back slapping while you're on top of the hill. It won't last.

6/16/2009 2:04:39 PM

lol you gonna post that in every thread in the soap box (without reading them)?

6/16/2009 3:31:06 PM

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"It was more of a conclusion I drew after reading several Soap Box threads"

There's your problem.

6/16/2009 4:11:42 PM

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"My friends and I have theorized that by 2012, either the Democratic party or the Republican party (or both) may fully dissolve leading to the following scenarios:"

LOL

can't believe you guys are actually replying to this foolish Inter-notion.

Agree with Ernie that your silly idea probably came from reading too much college Libertarian know-it-all-ism and believing that these people are representative of the general population.

6/16/2009 5:35:30 PM

6/16/2009 6:45:31 PM

The world's ending in 2012 regardless, so who gives a shit? Right??

6/16/2009 6:53:38 PM

the GOP isn't going to split into multiple parties, at least not by 2012 or anytime soon thereafter.

Hopefully the Libertarian Party (and libertarian-minded GOP candidates) will pull enough votes away from the rest of them to force them to move the party significantly in that direction, though.

6/16/2009 7:22:39 PM

The most ethnic candidate wins.

6/17/2009 7:30:18 AM

Who's the most ethnic governor/congressman right now?

6/17/2009 10:17:23 AM