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craptastic
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In regards to Stallworth's 30 day sentence, ESPN's "legal analyst" just said that he doesn't "view it as preferential. I think this is a good outcome for the victim, for the prosecutor, and especially for Stallworth."

6/17/2009 2:48:50 AM

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I don't know what the precedents are for similar cases but I couldn't believe it when I heard he was only getting 30 days....he killed somebody, that's fucking ridiculous

6/17/2009 2:51:57 AM

craptastic
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Well at least the guy he killed came out good.

6/17/2009 2:53:24 AM

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Yeah, wouldn't want the victim to see an unfair resolution to their trial, post-mortem.

Really though, perhaps ESPN should just get rid of all the sports commentating/"news" stuff they do and just show sports.

Sort of like how MTV should just show music videos.

6/17/2009 3:00:09 AM

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6/17/2009 3:09:04 AM

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the boys on pti were cool with it mainly because the family of the victim was cool with it (ie, $$$). both parties agreed to the deal, which includes 10 years probation and it will be a long time before he drives again. the main idea is that everyone is moving on and not tying it up in the courts, but when they only see 30 days on the headlines, it riles them up

i am not a legal analyst and i am not defending stallworth. and I'm typing from a phone so I can't recheck my sources

6/17/2009 6:43:57 AM

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AFAIK he'll never drive again, unless there's some sort of license suspension parole.

I heard lifetime suspension.

6/17/2009 7:49:31 AM

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"only getting 30 days....he killed somebody"
I agree. If anyone is at fault for the [non-consensual] death of someone else, that should be punishable by life in prison.
I really don't see how anyone could possibly disagree with this.
What's worse? Being raped by someone a half-dozen times, or them negligently killing you? Really?

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"both parties agreed to the deal"
So what? The victim/victims family should have no say in what the punishment is.

Our justice system is completely fucked.

6/17/2009 7:58:47 AM

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"I agree. If anyone is at fault for the [non-consensual] death of someone else, that should be punishable by life in prison.
I really don't see how anyone could possibly disagree with this.
What's worse? Being raped by someone a half-dozen times, or them negligently killing you? Really?"


Motive has to have more impact on sentencing than results.

Otherwise attempted murder wouldn't carry much penalty at all.

6/17/2009 8:04:22 AM

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"Motive has to have more impact on sentencing than results"
Perhaps, but only if motive is at all relevent. Negligent manslaugher has nothing to do with motive.

6/17/2009 8:14:05 AM

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This is why you don't jaywalk, boys and girls.

6/17/2009 8:30:54 AM

aaronburro
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no. this is why you don't drive drunk

6/17/2009 8:32:49 AM

nothing22
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following up on this, mike and mike had a legal analyst on this morning. he basically said stallworth's defense was so amazing because stallworth did all the right steps from the beginning: fessed up to it, did the blood test, didn't fuck off, etc. not to mention his bankroll and deals with insurance companies to take care of the victim's families was enough to satisfy the prosecution.

getting onto recent nfl player crimes, they also brought up the interesting comparison to mike vick and how much time (2 years or so) he did for dogfighting. vick's case was different because he lied, tried to cover things up, failed drug tests on probation, and america loves dogs. plus, vick has a strong chance of not playing in the nfl again whereas stallworth would probably miss like half a season.

it's all in the circumstances, but on the surface, one guy killed a dude while drunk and the other had dogfights. one got 30 days (actually it's 24) and the other over 2 years. america #1

6/17/2009 9:14:07 AM

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"one got 30 days (actually it's 24) and the other over 2 years. america #1"
Yeah, it should've been:
Stallworth: life in prison
Vick: 50 years

6/17/2009 9:16:09 AM

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"I agree. If anyone is at fault for the [non-consensual] death of someone else, that should be punishable by life in prison.
I really don't see how anyone could possibly disagree with this.
What's worse? Being raped by someone a half-dozen times, or them negligently killing you? Really?"


I disagree

6/17/2009 9:33:06 AM

Willy Nilly
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How?

6/17/2009 9:38:27 AM

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"If anyone is at fault for the [non-consensual] death of someone else, that should be punishable by life in prison."


I don't think you'll be saying this if some slight oversight on your part leads to a chain of events that gets somebody killed.


NOTE THAT I AM NOT TALKING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION OR DRUNK DRIVING AT ALL. THIS INCIDENT WAS NOT EXACTLY A "SLIGHT OVERSIGHT", BUT PLENTY OF DEATHS HAVE RESULTED FROM EXTREMELY SIMPLE ERRORS SON.

6/17/2009 9:44:58 AM

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See to me, Vick deserves worse than Stallworth. Stallworth made a mistake and someone died. It was not like he intended to do harm although I agree his decision to drive drunk lead to it. But Vick knew exactly what he was doing and he intended to brutally harm dogs on a large scale. The person's intent matters more to me.

Also on related NFL criminals, isn't Plaxico's facing a worse sentence than both of these guys? I mean he shot himself, wtf?

6/17/2009 9:51:38 AM

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"I don't think you'll be saying this if some slight oversight on your part leads to a chain of events that gets somebody killed"
Yeah, there's definitely a "gray area"

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"isn't Plaxico's facing a worse sentence than both of these guys? I mean he shot himself, wtf?"
He should get probation and a small fine for endangering others by negligently firing the gun in a club, but that's it.
Merely having a gun in your pocket shouldn't be illegal.

6/17/2009 10:10:53 AM

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If I'm reading the right thing, the prosecution created the plea agreement.

6/17/2009 10:17:09 AM

scotieb24
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Are you saying that's what you think should happen our what you think will happen?

I agree that he shouldn't get more than that

6/17/2009 10:17:45 AM

Willy Nilly
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That's what I think should happen. He'll likely get much worse.

6/17/2009 10:19:50 AM

vonjordan3
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I just said that to see what you would say

6/17/2009 10:21:16 AM

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"I don't know what the precedents are for similar cases but I couldn't believe it when I heard he was only getting 30 days"


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"WXII news anchor Tolly Carr will spend at least two years in prison after he pleaded guilty today to charges related to a fatal drunken-driving accident in March."

http://www.news-record.com/content/2007/08/13/article/tolly_carr_gets_prison_sentence_0

6/17/2009 10:27:40 AM

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