didn't see this anywhere else on there and did a search...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32187497/

Study: Tanning beds can be as deadly as arsenic
Cancer risk jumps 75 percent if ultraviolet radiation device used before 30

what we already knew for a long time. i hope this actually makes people reconsider.

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" LONDON - International cancer experts have moved tanning beds and other sources of ultraviolet radiation into the top cancer riskcategory, deeming them as deadly as arsenic and mustard gas. For years, scientists have described tanning beds and ultraviolet radiation as "probable carcinogens." A new analysis of about 20 studies concludes the risk of skin cancer jumps by 75 percent when people start using tanning beds before age 30. Experts also found that all types of ultraviolet radiation caused worrying mutations in mice, proof the radiation is carcinogenic. Previously, only one type of ultraviolet radiation was thought to be lethal. The new classification means tanning beds and other sources of ultraviolet radiation are definite causes of cancer, alongside tobacco, the hepatitis B virus and chimney sweeping, among others. The research was published online in the medical journal Lancet Oncology on Wednesday, by experts at the International Agency for Research on Cancer in Lyon, the cancer arm of the World Health Organization. "People need to be reminded of the risks of sunbeds," said Vincent Cogliano, one of the cancer researchers. "We hope the prevailing culture will change so teens don't think they need to use sunbeds to get a tan." Most lights used in tanning beds give off mainly ultraviolet radiation, which cause skin and eye cancer, according to the International Agency for Cancer Research. The classification of tanning beds as carcinogenic was disputed by Kathy Banks, chief executive of The Sunbed Association, a European trade association of tanning bed makers and operators. "The fact that is continuously ignored is that there is no proven link between the responsible use of sunbeds and skin cancer," Banks said in a statement. She said most users of tanning beds use them less than 20 times a year. But as use of tanning beds has increased among people under 30, doctors have seen a parallel rise in the numbers of young people with skin cancer. In Britain, melanoma, the deadliest kind of skin cancer, is now the leading cancer diagnosed in women in their 20s. Normally, skin cancer rates are highest in people over 75. Previous studies found younger people who regularly use tanning beds are eight times more likely to get melanoma than people who have never used them. In the past, WHO warned people younger than 18 to stay away from tanning beds. Cogliano cautioned that ultravoilet radiation is not healthy, whether it comes from a tanning bed or from the sun. The American Cancer Society advises people to try bronzing or self-tanning creams instead of tanning beds."

[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 8:03 PM. Reason : lkjfkdjf]

7/28/2009 7:57:15 PM

7/28/2009 7:58:05 PM

whoop de doo. pretty much everything in varying degrees is harmful to you. live your life, do what you want.

7/28/2009 8:45:10 PM

get you some cancer! fuck yea!

7/28/2009 8:45:34 PM

i'm pretty sure that if i put arsenic in my lady friends dinner she is going to die, but if she goes to the tanning bed she is just going to look really hot and not have tan lines

7/28/2009 8:55:27 PM

tan lines are hot though

7/28/2009 9:00:13 PM

false

7/28/2009 9:01:01 PM

^^true

7/28/2009 9:01:40 PM

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"i'm pretty sure that if i put arsenic in my lady friends dinner she is going to die, but if she goes to the tanning bed she is just going to look really hot and not have tan lines"

7/28/2009 9:06:26 PM

deep tans are not hot

7/28/2009 9:08:23 PM

I agree with the spirit of the quoted post, though not its letter

7/28/2009 9:10:10 PM

all these tanning bed addicts are going to end up looking like old shoe leather and looking way older than their actual age when they're older

7/28/2009 9:11:48 PM

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"i hope this actually makes people reconsider. "

It won't. And I have no sympathy for them at all. I actually hope they get cancer - and that most of them live, so that they learn a damn lesson or two. And pass it on to their kids.

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"The classification of tanning beds as carcinogenic was disputed by Kathy Banks, chief executive of The Sunbed Association, a European trade association of tanning bed makers and operators. "The fact that is continuously ignored is that there is no proven link between the responsible use of sunbeds and skin cancer," Banks said in a statement."

She's not biased at all!

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" She said most users of tanning beds use them less than 20 times a year."

I guess that's why tanning is a weekly occurrence for so many women, if not more frequently.

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"whoop de doo. pretty much everything in varying degrees is harmful to you. live your life, do what you want."

That's the kind of stance to take when some report is published saying [some unavoidable aspect of daily modern life] has a relationship to cancer/some other illness.
It's not one to take for melanoma tubes.

When I see a chick who fakes or bakes, she is so much less attractive than if she didn't:
1) Either she bakes, and is a retard at worst, and at best, has some very misplaced priorities. If she doesn't bake, she fakes. See #2
2) Buys into the tan=hot notion

There's a horribly strong family history of skin cancer in my husband's (irish) family. It kills me that some of his cousins actively seek to tan, despite seeing what their mothers look like in terms of moles and other sun-related discolorations.

^I should take some pictures of my stepmother-in-law. Her face isn't too bad b/c she's protected it fairly well, but she's a sunworshipper. Regarding vacationing anywhere but a pool or beach, she said "That's what pictures are for." Her decolletage is truly revolting. It's a mix of wrinkled tissue paper, leather, and spots, spots, spots. She's in great shape for her age, but you can't tell because her skin has lost all elasticity. There is seriously no way to convey how disgusting her skin is.

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7/28/2009 9:17:59 PM

i do not want to look like leather.

i wear sunscreen on my face everyday.

7/28/2009 9:20:24 PM

i knew i liked you

i do that too haha

oh and I really have nothing against people who use fake tanner i mean..... it's like dying your hair. but not.

orange people put a giggle in my day

[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 9:22 PM. Reason : seriously]

7/28/2009 9:20:40 PM

i also have freckles (A LOT) so i'm definitely scurred of the sun

7/28/2009 9:22:39 PM

ugh! oops.

[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 9:23 PM. Reason : .]

7/28/2009 9:23:10 PM

oh man i get them SO EASILY. also i turn into a freaking lobster in like 10 minutes so I definitely stay inside. ow.

7/28/2009 9:23:57 PM

...I took my husband to the dermatologist today, and he had a huge chunk taken out of his back. You know, the pasty fellow whose back sees the sun 6 times a year, if that, with sunscreen.

Skin cancer isn't something I want to tangle with, and it is the easiest cancer to avoid.

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"oh and I really have nothing against people who use fake tanner i mean..... it's like dying your hair. but not. "

Orange people make me , because it was all an attempt to look "hot". Orange = not comfortable in one's own skin.

7/28/2009 9:24:41 PM

I know relatively little about tanning beds so someone please explain why a tanning bed would be more likely to cause cancer than spending days out in the sun fishing/ swimming/ working etc.

7/28/2009 9:24:44 PM

pretty sure tanning beds are like more concentrated UV rays or some shit. like you can get a tan in 10 minutes

7/28/2009 9:25:50 PM

Different kinds of rays.
Higher concentrations.
More direct exposure.
More exposure.

7/28/2009 9:26:22 PM

i stopped tanning (via the tanning bed and in the sun) about 2-3 years ago.

my skin has never been softer.
seriously

[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 9:45 PM. Reason : 2.5 maybe?]

7/28/2009 9:44:47 PM

I mean- is there a difference from tanning in the sun and just being active outside without a shirt on?

If not than I'm screwed.

7/28/2009 9:46:05 PM

personally i'm wondering why drop dead doesnt think tanlines are hot. i'm also weirded out by khcadwal wearing sunscreen daily. a bit excessive if you ask me. and i'd like to conclude with i hope jessiejepp reads this thread.

7/28/2009 10:00:19 PM

i have told jessie several times that tanning beds are bad bad bad and will continue to do so

and because they look fucking RIDICULOUS.

and don't hate on sunscreen

7/28/2009 10:05:19 PM

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"I mean- is there a difference from tanning in the sun and just being active outside without a shirt on? "

Oh yes, there is very much a difference. Either way, start wearing sunscreen

[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 10:06 PM. Reason : esrdfg]

7/28/2009 10:06:04 PM

i don't think wearing sunscreen on my face daily is bad!

i have a TON of freckles on my face and i would prefer my face NOT wrinkle prematurely due to sun exposure! it is in my face lotion and makeup so it isn't like it is an extra step or anything.

7/28/2009 10:08:05 PM

^^how is there a difference though? i mean one is moving around and one is sitting there like "oh look at me i'm getting brown"

it's still the same amount of UV ray exposure amirite?

[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 10:08 PM. Reason : ]

7/28/2009 10:08:25 PM

folks get so up in arms over this topic. folks ought to do whatever the fuck they want with their skin.

7/28/2009 10:10:51 PM

see this is the prob with americans now a days. we are such pussies. idk if its the media or what, but its like how the fuck do you think ppl got through life back in the early 20th century etc.

[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 10:11 PM. Reason : ^finally something i can agree with]

7/28/2009 10:10:55 PM

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"i don't think wearing sunscreen on my face daily is bad! "

Dude, it's dnl.
Those comments don't even dignify reading, much less justification.

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"it's still the same amount of UV ray exposure amirite?"

No.
It's more, faster, and not the same ratio as from outdoors exposure.

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"folks ought to do whatever the fuck they want with their skin."

You saw where I said I hope they get cancer As far as why? Because you and I pay for this shit, indirectly.

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7/28/2009 10:12:05 PM

^^ well if you look at women back then people WANTED to be pale.

hats/umbrellas/etc to prevent sun exposure.

i mean it is fine but i don't think it is a pussy to not want to look wrinkly and old and/or get skin cancer. especially with my skin type - fair and freckly/moley

[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 10:13 PM. Reason : .]

7/28/2009 10:12:45 PM

I don't sunburn, so I don't wear sunscreen either...

7/28/2009 10:13:33 PM

just caring enough to hope they get cancer is caring too much

7/28/2009 10:13:35 PM

It's not just limited to this.

This notion called "consequences". It's foreign to too many people.

7/28/2009 10:15:05 PM

not to mention its cynical as fuck.^^

[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 10:15 PM. Reason : .]

7/28/2009 10:15:05 PM

^^there you go caring too much again

it simply doesn't affect you.

7/28/2009 10:16:13 PM

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"it simply doesn't affect you. "

Except it does.
Not directly, and not in ways I can measure, but it affects me much like my obesity affects others.

7/28/2009 10:17:53 PM

i dont know what the figure for skin cancer is, but i know ppl like ambrosia account for about 10% of all healthcare costs. food for thought.

[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 10:18 PM. Reason : damn, she beat me to it lol]

7/28/2009 10:18:37 PM

in a tanning bed yea but his question specifically asked the difference between outdoor tanning and being outside with a shirt off while doing yardwork or some other shit

7/28/2009 10:20:04 PM

^ Or playing a spot of Croquet or something.

7/28/2009 10:21:12 PM

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"i dont know what the figure for skin cancer is, but i know ppl like ambrosia account for about 10% of all healthcare costs. food for thought. "

Actually, obesity counts for way more than that.

7/28/2009 10:23:33 PM

yeah, y'all are right, it increases your healthcare costs and health insurance rates and taxes through medicare/medicaid

[Edited on July 28, 2009 at 10:27 PM. Reason : maybe the gubment should outlaw tanning]

7/28/2009 10:27:25 PM

^^well you post a link to a news story that says that, and then i'll post a link to the news story i'm talking about

7/28/2009 10:28:49 PM

^^Hell no. Fuck the nanny state.

7/28/2009 10:33:38 PM

well what do you suggest?

7/28/2009 10:34:34 PM

all cancers cost 93 billion a year. obesity is 147 billion per year. out of all those cancers, lets say skin is like 1/3 of that? so about 30 billion a year, versus almost 150 billion a year for obesity. just saying. and that 1/3 number is probably waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay higher than what the skin cancer number actually is.

7/28/2009 10:35:58 PM

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"well what do you suggest? "

Nothing, at this point.
I was just answering your 'I don't get why people care', and refuting your 'it doesn't affect you'

7/28/2009 10:36:38 PM

so you're worried over a problem to which there really isn't much you can do?

7/28/2009 10:38:57 PM