Well, not in the broader sense, but:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124891169018991961.html

Quote :

""The president will drink Bud Light," Mr. Gibbs added."

What a transparent, cynical move. Does he think the average American is so unsophisticated that they'd turn on him for showing a little taste in beers? Are we to really to believe that a man who likes arugula really enjoys Bud Light?


Somehow I doubt that's a Bud Light

I wouldn't be so miffed if were just a matter of pandering, but he had an opportunity to promote any of the hundreds of great American craft breweries, and instead he chooses to give foreign-owned beer-flavored water free publicity.

What about a beer brewed in D.C. or Chicago? Or better yet, combine pandering and taste and drink a beer brewed in a swing state!



Or what about:



It was brewed specifically for him!

7/30/2009 4:08:27 PM

He's probably a wine drinker and only drinks beer for show.

7/30/2009 4:10:02 PM

Like I said in the thread pertaining to this whole issue, why not offer him something like a $10,000 a plate dinner at the White House? Or I guess ALL COPS LIKE CHEAP BEER so that will do

I think he heard people say about both Clinton and Bush "I'd like to have a beer with that guy" and he's just taking it overboard

Oh I offended you on national TV because I jumped to a bad conclusion before getting all the facts? This $3 beer should more than make up for it!

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 4:14 PM. Reason : .]

7/30/2009 4:12:43 PM

^Not so much on the "all cops like cheap beer:"

Quote :

"Late Wednesday, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs hinted the presidential cooler will likely be stocked with what he understood to be the two guests' own personal favorites -- Red Stripe and Blue Moon."

As for me, for whatever else I can say about the man, I'm happy to have a President who still drinks.

7/30/2009 4:15:47 PM

ooh, which one of them requested the Blue Moon? Cause they're probably gay

haha honestly what difference does it make if the President drinks or not?

I mean I drink so I think its kind of cool, but I certainly don't think it has any bearing on your ability to lead a country

7/30/2009 4:17:02 PM

As in all things-- Bush was worse.

From what I've read he kept the White House stocked with Heineken for guests. The only thing worse than macro piss is macro piss with pretensions of class.

7/30/2009 4:17:38 PM

Quote :

"As for me, for whatever else I can say about the man, I'm happy to have a President who still drinks."

Long-windedness is not an admirable trait.

Thank you, carry on.

7/30/2009 4:18:24 PM

The cop prefers Blue Moon. It's in the article linked at the top of this thread.

Also, does it worry anybody else that these people are still around?

Quote :

"For instance, there is the Woman's Christian Temperance Union, which led the fight for Prohibition in the early 20th century. Rita K. Wert, the group's national president, said her organization is disappointed that the president is serving beer at all. "There are so many other beverages he could have chosen that would have served just as well," she said, mentioning lemonade or iced tea."

Quote :

"honestly what difference does it make if the President drinks or not?"

I have trouble trusting anybody who won't so much as drink a beer, possibly excluding those with medical conditions.

Also, consider the two sides in WWII:

Teetotalers who abhorred tobacco: Adolf Hitler
Raging Alcoholics and chain smokers: FDR, Winston Churchill

^Thank you for your helpful input. Long-windedness is certainly worse than, for example, people who go around editing other people's sentences for fun.

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 4:21 PM. Reason : ]

7/30/2009 4:19:41 PM

I know some recovering alcoholics who won't drink a beer but that are probably more trustworthy than the average raging alcoholics I know

but anyway, that has nothing to do with the topic

OR DOES IT

7/30/2009 4:21:09 PM

Well, George W. Bush was a recovering alcoholic who wouldn't touch a beer during his presidency, and let's just say he didn't ride out on a wave of popularity, love, and success.

7/30/2009 4:23:02 PM

has any President lately?

I just lost a ton of respect for the cop when I learned his favorite beer is Blue Moon

7/30/2009 4:24:08 PM

^^

Hey, I'm here to help. You seem to lack the ability to be concise, which is unfortunate since you don't seem to be as dumb as a box of hammers.

7/30/2009 4:25:53 PM

Quote :

"has any President lately?"

Clinton has stayed very popular with his base, which is more than I can say for Bush II. And Reagan was practically deified when he left.

I agree about the Blue Moon, though. Fuck that shit.

7/30/2009 4:29:24 PM

A Belgian white ale? Why not a black lager?

The cop basically just admitted to the whole world that he's a racist.


A black and tan would've been the most diplomatic choice.

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 4:31 PM. Reason : ]

7/30/2009 4:30:10 PM

Look, we're all losing sight of some crucial facts here, namely The Women's Christian Temperance Union is still around trying to take away our beer.

7/30/2009 4:31:38 PM

This has nothing to do with macro v. micro. This is entirely about the type of beer. Bud is an American-style Lager, my friend. And microbreweries can pump out that watery stuff just as well as those fucks at Anheuser-Busch and many do. Conversely, you can find big name breweries making many different types of lagers or ales or ciders or what have you.

Microbreweries were important in the 1980s, because they proved that Americans can enjoy other types of beer besides pale lager. But now everyone is playing the variety game. Even Anheuser-Busch has "American Ale" or some such. The "microbrew" moment has pased.

Personally, I think the only people that still worship at the alter of the microbrew are people who actually think paying $6 for a pint of bitter makes them a fucking beer connoisseur, when it really just means they are gullible fucks.

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 4:39 PM. Reason : connoisseur]

7/30/2009 4:34:42 PM

Quote :

"I wouldn't be so miffed if were just a matter of pandering, but he had an opportunity to promote any of the hundreds of great American craft breweries, and instead he chooses to give foreign-owned beer-flavored water free publicity. "

I lose a lot of respect for Obama drinking Bud Light.

Quote :

"Teetotalers who abhorred tobacco: Adolf Hitler Raging Alcoholics and chain smokers: FDR, Winston Churchill "

hahaha yeah which WW2 leader was anti-smoking, vegetarian, environmentalist, animal conservationist, and developed a primitive version
of the modern social welfare state??????

Just a hint he was not the president of the United States of Freedom!!! or the UK!!!!

Adolf Hitler of Nazi Germany ding! ding! ding!

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 4:38 PM. Reason : t]

7/30/2009 4:37:55 PM

Quote :

"Clinton has stayed very popular with his base, which is more than I can say for Bush II."

Clinton might be popular now but he was impeached and had the sex scandal going...Bush Sr. wasn't re-elected, so therefore I consider that not riding out on a wave of popularity

Quote :

"A black and tan would've been the most diplomatic choice"

gg

7/30/2009 4:37:56 PM

Obama strikes me as a zima drinker, doesnt strike me as someone who enjoys beer.

7/30/2009 4:46:58 PM

Quote :

"This has nothing to do with macro v. micro. This is entirely about the type of beer. Bud is an American-style Lager, my friend. And microbreweries can pump out that watery stuff just as well as those fucks at Anheuser-Busch and many do."

Bud is an American Adjunct Lager style. There's a big difference. Drink Bud and something like Victory Prima Pils side-by-side and I promise you'll taste the difference between an American Adjunct Lager and an American Lager.

Quote :

"Conversely, you can find big name breweries making many different types of lagers or ales or ciders or what have you."

Quote :

"Even Anheuser-Busch has "American Ale" or some such."

I can buy frozen cordon-bleu from Swanson, too. I hardly think that competes with the real thing.

Quote :

"Personally, I think the only people that still worship at the alter of the microbrew are people who actually think paying $6 for a pint of bitter makes them a fucking beer connoisseur, when it really just means they are gullible fucks."

Giant corporation notices a trend. Giant Corporation clumsily attempts to cash in on said trend. People like Socks`` eat it up. You're the gullible one.



To add some evidence to why Socksdotdot is so terribly wrong:

Quote :

"America’s small and independent craft brewers claim only 4% of the volume of beer enjoyed in the U.S. But taking a look at how they brew and what they brew one quickly realizes that they account for close to 20% of the hops used in the U.S. "

http://www.examiner.com/x-241-Beer-Examiner~y2009m7d10-Top-ten-hop-varieties-used-by-American-craft-brewers

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 5:02 PM. Reason : ]

7/30/2009 4:52:19 PM

Quote :

"Personally, I think the only people that still worship at the alter of the microbrew are people who actually think paying $6 for a pint of bitter makes them a fucking beer connoisseur, when it really just means they are gullible fucks"

or people not content with American Piss Water beer

7/30/2009 5:04:03 PM

lol....are people really arguing over what beer the president is drinking??? wow.

7/30/2009 5:05:36 PM

Umm... I'm pretty sure this is mostly in jest...

7/30/2009 5:07:01 PM

You may rest assured that Pabst Blue Ribbon will be the official beer of any and all GrumpyGOP campaigns and meetings. In fact, if I ever say I am creating a "Blue Ribbon Panel," you may all take that to mean I am getting drunk on cheap beer with somebody.

7/30/2009 5:16:42 PM

I usually have an 18 of some domestic light in my fridge at the crib, but when I go out drinking I'll opt for some good draught beer

If you will, call it drinking main street beer on main street, drinking wall street beer on wall street

(and as usual, MLK Jr. Blvd is fucked)

7/30/2009 5:19:40 PM

^^



that, my friend, is a PBR

7/30/2009 5:25:00 PM

^Sweet.

^^Same here. I prefer good draughts to PBR, certainly. But I love PBR more because I can drink it without driving myself into poverty.

7/30/2009 5:26:54 PM

that pint glass is in a glass case at the Raleigh Times

7/30/2009 5:27:51 PM

Quote :

"lol....are people really arguing over what beer the president is drinking??? wow."

I thought the whole Horse and Pony PR circus was stupid from the beginning.

7/30/2009 5:36:54 PM

Mmmmm. . .beer.

7/30/2009 6:09:35 PM

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 6:10 PM. Reason : Damn double post! ]

7/30/2009 6:10:04 PM

Times are tough, man. Even the president has to sacrifice.

7/30/2009 6:14:21 PM

bud light, blue moon, and redstripe? seriously?

7/30/2009 6:28:27 PM

hahahahahaha, third dude from the left

7/30/2009 6:30:44 PM

Quote :

"Personally, I think the only people that still worship at the alter of the microbrew are people who actually think paying $6 for a pint of bitter makes them a fucking beer connoisseur, when it really just means they are gullible fucks"

Why doesn't the President drink beer from an American owned brewery?

7/30/2009 6:45:44 PM

I agree that the President should support American owners over American workers, such as those employed at the 12 Anheuser-Busch breweries in the United States, or those at its thirteen wholesale operations.

If thumbing our nose at InBev means hurting roughly 23,000 American workers, so be it.

7/30/2009 7:08:40 PM

if theres anything hes done to lose my support its this

7/30/2009 7:12:21 PM

Bud Light is too expensive for what you get. For just a couple bucks more, you can get way tastier beer (from the store).

I have not had a Budweiser beer in a looong time. But I'm sure I'll take it back up around Christmas. I love those fucking horses in the snow. I'll also start drinking Coke again...Santa packs are coming, Santa packs are coming, Santa packs are coming...

I don't know what beer I would have chosen as president. I probably wouldn't have specified. I mean, you wanna relate to the everyman, you best order whatever's on special and drink at least six of them bitches.

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 7:14 PM. Reason : ]

7/30/2009 7:13:08 PM

Holy shit, just looked up one of the clydesdale ads, and check out the comment:

Quote :

"This and the coca cola christmas? trucks are the two ads that make my christmas compleate."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXvAVtwbemE

Me and stuartclarke2007 are soul mates.

I wonder if his favorite Christmas movies are Lethal Weapon and Die Hard!

7/30/2009 7:18:19 PM

nm

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 7:29 PM. Reason : pshh]

7/30/2009 7:28:29 PM

AHA

7/30/2009 7:33:07 PM

Quote :

"What a transparent, cynical move. Does he think the average American is so unsophisticated that they'd turn on him for showing a little taste in beers? Are we to really to believe that a man who likes arugula really enjoys Bud Light?"

Does this surprise anyone by now? Really? The guy who won't stick his neck out for anything makes a safe, bland, neutral choice on beers in order to avoid alienating anyone? Are you honestly shocked by this?

7/30/2009 7:45:19 PM

It's been reported that Gates wanted a 40 of Olde English 800 but decided to go with Red Stripe Jamaican horse piss for the obvious reasons.

7/30/2009 7:45:35 PM

I realized how distant the Obamas were from regular folks like me when Michelle Obama first started talking about shopping at J. Crew to save money.

I didn't expect her to profess her love for Wal-Mart. She probably shouldn't have said anything at all. I mean, they made millions of dollars a year...there's no real way to relate besides the whole one-leg-at-a-time bit.

Same goes for this beer thing. Obama shoulda just straight up picked his favorite beer (if he even drinks it), and nobody's favorite beer is Bud Light, excepting those folks with the palates of middle schoolers. I mean, even the people who take pride in loving bad beer don't pick Bud Light.

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 8:01 PM. Reason : Okay, way too many words devoted to this non-issue. Peace out, playas!]

7/30/2009 7:58:11 PM

Quote :

"Giant corporation notices a trend. Giant Corporation clumsily attempts to cash in on said trend. People like Socks`` eat it up. You're the gullible one."

Hahaha. Beer snobbery is more convincing when it is not coming from someone below the age of 30. "Hey man, I've been drinking beer for almost *3 years*, I think I know what good beer tastes like."

Of course, I'm younger than 30 too. But I don't pretend to be a beer snob because I buy mix packs from Trader Joes, or whatever it is you do that makes you think your opinion on beer is worth anything.

7/30/2009 8:08:23 PM

They should just each have a fifth of aristocrat vodka and party their asses off. Then immediately after the last shot hold a press conference.

7/30/2009 8:29:28 PM

I like Blue moon. What is Joe Biden drinking? Thats what I want to know.

7/30/2009 8:38:50 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/30/harvard.arrest.beers/index.html

woooo boy! look at how detailed this report is. Even discusses how the president had the sleeves of his shirt rolled up! This is nothing short of outstanding journalism!

^

Quote :

"Biden was drinking Buckler"

also Gates was drinking Sam Adams, not red stripe.

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 8:57 PM. Reason : I've never heard of Buckler myself]

7/30/2009 8:55:41 PM

Quote :

"Of course, I'm younger than 30 too. But I don't pretend to be a beer snob because I buy mix packs from Trader Joes, or whatever it is you do that makes you think your opinion on beer is worth anything."

Is 27 close enough?

And as far as credibility goes-- umm, I brew my own? I subscribe to brewing periodicals and read books on the subject? I'm a teacher, and thus inherently a borderline alcoholic, who prefers to feed his borderline addiction with variety rather than quantity?

I don't know what else could make you realize that you're just butthurt over not having any taste in beer at all.


^I'd never heard of Buckler, either.

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/81/5636

It's a non-alcoholic beer brewed by Heineken. It just gets worse and worse >.<;;

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 9:00 PM. Reason : ,]

7/30/2009 8:57:24 PM

Interesting piece of information I hadn't heard about, and for whatever reason was placed at the very end of the linked article I posted:

Quote :

" Meanwhile, a black Cambridge police sergeant on the scene the day of Gates' arrest wrote a letter to Crowley, asking him to mention to Gates and Obama that he is now known as the "black sergeant" and to some others as an "uncle Tom." advertisement "I'm forced to ponder the notion that as a result of speaking the truth and coming to the defense of a friend and colleague, who just happens to be white, that I have somehow betrayed my heritage," Sgt. Leon Lashley wrote. "Please convey my concerns to the president that Mr. Gates' actions may have caused grave and potentially irreparable harm to the struggle for racial harmony in this country and perhaps throughout the world." Lashley wrote in the letter he would like Gates to reflect on the incident and ask himself what responsibility he bears, what he can do to heal the rift and what he can do to mitigate the damage done to the officers' reputations."

[Edited on July 30, 2009 at 9:12 PM. Reason : []

7/30/2009 9:10:37 PM