...are fucking liars. Math doesn't lie, bitches.

8/12/2009 7:29:22 AM

iop1

8/12/2009 7:36:41 AM

improbable does not mean impossible

8/12/2009 7:40:24 AM

antibiotics + a broken condom = LAWL

8/12/2009 7:46:31 AM

Impossible (if both are used correctly).

8/12/2009 7:47:23 AM

as long as stairs exist, this shouldn't concern anyone.

8/12/2009 8:02:54 AM

Quote :

"improbable does not mean impossible"

Quote :

"as long as stairs and coat hangers exist, this shouldn't concern anyone."

[Edited on August 12, 2009 at 8:19 AM. Reason : lerp lerp derp]

8/12/2009 8:19:25 AM

good call, lol

8/12/2009 8:20:39 AM

this thread also doesn't concern Rick Pitino message_topic.aspx?topic=573512

8/12/2009 8:27:48 AM

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"Impossible (if both are used correctly)."

Bitches seem to be incapable of taking a pill everyday at the same time.

Also, antibiotics will render The Pill completely useless. Bitches seem to only hear their doctors and friends say what they want to hear.


iop1, bitches are dumb.

8/12/2009 8:35:01 AM

the thread has theduke written all over it

8/12/2009 8:44:16 AM

kill them with fire

8/12/2009 9:14:09 AM

i went to school with a chick who used a coat hanger on herself

8/12/2009 9:15:50 AM

8/12/2009 9:22:12 AM

and i was just now reminded of revolutionary road

8/12/2009 9:28:01 AM

^i was about to type the same thing.

8/12/2009 9:51:47 AM

I <3 my IUD!!!

8/12/2009 10:02:40 AM

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"and i was just now reminded of revolutionary road"

i love leo and kate, but damn did i ever hate that movie.

**SPOILER**

and i was convinced it was the neighbor's baby, but they never said it was

**/SPOILER**

8/12/2009 10:04:48 AM

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"Impossible (if both are used correctly)."

Quote :

"users of male condoms experience a 2% per-year pregnancy rate"

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"The typical use pregnancy rate among COCP users varies depending on the population being studied, ranging from 2-8% per year. The perfect use pregnancy rate of COCPs is 0.3% per year."

Doesn't sound impossible to me, just very improbable

8/12/2009 10:06:46 AM

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"Also, antibiotics will render The Pill completely useless."

not true

8/12/2009 11:17:28 AM

^it is true.

talk to an ob gyn

8/12/2009 11:18:49 AM

it's totally true

8/12/2009 11:19:29 AM

If she's getting pummeled heavy at least three times a day everyday, her brain will be mush.

8/12/2009 11:20:10 AM

I read something last week that said that while most doctors tell you antibiotics do affect the pill, they actually don't have any effect.

8/12/2009 11:21:14 AM

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"IRSeriousCat All American 4716 Posts user info edit post ^it is true. talk to an ob gyn "

he's a fucking pharmacist. i think he knows more than you.

[Edited on August 12, 2009 at 11:21 AM. Reason : ^exactly. and most if not all say "it MAY have SOME affect" on the bc..not totally fuck it up]

8/12/2009 11:21:21 AM

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"I read something last week that said that while most doctors tell you antibiotics do affect the pill, they actually don't have any effect. "

You wanna be the first girl to test that theory?

8/12/2009 11:22:02 AM

Oh snap, you are literally a pharmacist that went to Pharmacy school? Can you hook a brother up with some ear drops?

8/12/2009 11:22:13 AM

^^ haha word

8/12/2009 11:23:14 AM

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"Bitches seem to be incapable of taking a pill everyday at the same time."

unless they are me and have an alarm on their phone and keep their pills in their keys. I always have these 2 things on me at all times.

so suck it I'm not making any sort of devil spawn. babies are evil

8/12/2009 11:23:34 AM

i beg to differ.

my father is an ob gyn and so is the mother of my best friend. the effects of antibiotics on the bill are well documented.

8/12/2009 11:26:52 AM

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" While many people, including many doctors, believe that antibiotics interfere with the effectiveness of the birth control pill, the fact is there are very few medications that have actually been proven to decrease the pill's effectiveness. Studies do show that antibiotics can affect the excretion of contraceptive chemicals in urine, but levels in the blood do not change, and there is no increase in pregnancy rates. A few medications do stimulate the liver's ability to metabolize contraceptive chemicals, and these medications may indeed lower the pill's effectiveness. If you are taking these medications, you should use a back-up method of contraception (like a condom) while using that medication and until you have completed an entire pill cycle. These medications are: -- Rifampin (used to treat tuberculosis) -- Phenobarbitol (sedative and anti-siezure medicine) -- Phenytoin, Dilantin (anti-seizure medication) -- Carbamazepine, Tegretol (anti-seizure medication) -- Griseofulvin (potent anti-fungal) Of these, only anti-seizure medications are widely prescribed. Common antibiotics do not cause a problem, but if you want extra reassurance, go ahead and use a condom while you are on the antibiotics and until that pack of pills is finished. "

8/12/2009 11:27:16 AM

Dude, bill is screwed.

8/12/2009 11:28:29 AM

^^again, you wanna be the girl to test that theory? cuz i certainly don't.

[Edited on August 12, 2009 at 11:28 AM. Reason : ,]

8/12/2009 11:28:50 AM

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"i beg to differ. "

Then you beg to be wrong.

8/12/2009 11:29:33 AM

instead of listening to OB-GYN or even pharmacist, how about doing your own research like Skwinkle just did. Hint, just go to the WHO website and do a search.

[Edited on August 12, 2009 at 11:30 AM. Reason : .]

8/12/2009 11:30:06 AM

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"if you want extra reassurance, go ahead and use a condom while you are on the antibiotics and until that pack of pills is finished"

seriously, it's not worth it

8/12/2009 11:30:30 AM

I most likely wouldn't test the theory, but I don't like misinformation spreading itself around. Doctors are wrong a lot.

8/12/2009 11:31:29 AM

Nothing fucks up your lifestyle like an unexpected kid. Not worth the risk.

8/12/2009 11:31:50 AM

^ & ^^^ Exactly! I don't want to OOPS just because someone on the internet told me my doctor was wrong.

[Edited on August 12, 2009 at 11:32 AM. Reason : .]

8/12/2009 11:32:22 AM

GGMon & hgtran

here is the deal. first off Rifampin is an antibiotic, so that is basically case in point. however the main concern for it is with generics. there is a much larger risk with antibiotics when women use generics (and many do) because the levels in generics can fluctuate by +/-20% at any given time. thus any reduction in effectiveness can have a big impact in a situation where the effectiveness has already been reduced.

as far as quick research i went to the mayo clinic while typing this and found

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" Hypothetically speaking, other antibiotics, particularly penicillin and tetracycline derivatives, could impair the effectiveness of birth control pills in a small percentage of women. Researchers can't rule out this possibility, but no large studies have proved such an effect. If you're taking a newer, extremely low-dose oral contraceptive, you could be more susceptible to this potential antibiotic effect. If you're concerned, consider using a barrier method of contraception for the duration of your antibiotic prescription. "

a low dose would be akin to the -20% swing in generics. but feel free to test it out all you wish.

[Edited on August 12, 2009 at 11:34 AM. Reason : names]

8/12/2009 11:33:53 AM

^I'm not arguing that antibiotic does not interfere with oral contraceptive, but only a FEW of them.
and also

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"because the levels in generics can fluctuate by +/-20% at any given time."

you need to do a read up on the bioequivalency and the process to get generic drugs approved by the FDA.

to thumper
right, because the World Health Organization is just "someone on the internet". Like I said, do the research yourself.

[Edited on August 12, 2009 at 11:38 AM. Reason : .]

8/12/2009 11:34:22 AM

I've been told for 10 years that antibiotics fuck with the pill. I don't care if God appeared to me in an epiphany and told me I could fuck the whole Carolina Panthers Offensive Line bareback while taking antibiotics on the pill - I still wouldn't fucking do it.

8/12/2009 11:40:55 AM

that's not a very good analogy

8/12/2009 11:41:53 AM

Apparently the NuvaRing isn't affected by Antibiotics

It's the best BC ever.

8/12/2009 11:43:13 AM

I predict hgtran will have an oops kid soon.

Seriously, using too many methods of birth control is not a problem. Not using enough can create huge problems. Even under ideal conditions, using only a single method of birth control made me nervous. I'm ok now that I have my tubes tied though, lifetime failure rate is about the same as the failure rate for condoms in one year (2%).

8/12/2009 11:43:17 AM

Seriously, I don't care if WHO says it's safe. Being too careful is better than having to decide on adoption or abortion because you aren't ready for a child.

8/12/2009 11:44:07 AM

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"I don't care if God appeared to me in an epiphany and told me I could fuck the whole Carolina Panthers Offensive Line bareback while taking antibiotics on the pill - I still wouldn't fucking do it."

yes you would. and you'd be stupid if you didnt want to get pregnant/set for life by one of them

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"I'm ok now that I have my tubes tied though"

what? are you actually 24?

[Edited on August 12, 2009 at 11:44 AM. Reason : a]

8/12/2009 11:44:18 AM

^OK actually, you kinda have a point. And I hear Steve Smith likes the white wimmenz

8/12/2009 11:44:42 AM

i think the pregnancy statistics are a little off because most people don't want to admit that they didn't take the pill or that they fucked the bitch bareback

8/12/2009 11:46:20 AM

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"Apparently the NuvaRing isn't affected by Antibiotics"

It's a hormonal form too, so I imagine it would be affected by anything that would affect the pill, antibiotics or not.

8/12/2009 11:47:46 AM