hewylewis Starting Lineup 63 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4411373
So you shoot yourself in the leg and you get two years in prison but you kill your wife you get away scott free???
God Bless America 8/20/2009 10:54:11 AM
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Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
In before he stabs himself in the leg with a shiv at Sing Sing. 8/20/2009 11:03:13 AM
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uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah this makes no sense to me. Sure, some jail time is deserved, but two years? 8/20/2009 11:07:54 AM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
thanks a lot Giuliani 8/20/2009 11:14:30 AM
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sd2nc All American 9963 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "TreeTwista10 Jake Delhomme is God 77772 Posts user info edit post
i dont see them locking up a multimillionaire NFL player for 3 years for doing something that only hurt himself...he wasnt fighting dogs or selling coke or stabbing people or beating people into comas...he fucked up royally but i dont think there's any way he does time" |
Quote : | "So you shoot yourself in the leg and you get two years in prison but you kill your wife you get away scott free???" |
Depends on were you are hahaha
[Edited on August 20, 2009 at 11:22 AM. Reason : /] 8/20/2009 11:21:16 AM
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ddf583 All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
Wasn't he offered a plea deal a while back to do 3 months but he turned it down?
If the guy had shot himself in the leg at his home with a weapon he legally owned he just would have gone to the hospital and people would say what a dumbass he was, but that's not what happened. I have no problem with people legally carrying concealed weapons, but I think people who do so illegally should face very harsh penalties, especially if you happen to discharge said weapon in a crowded building regardless of where the bullet ends up.
[Edited on August 20, 2009 at 11:29 AM. Reason : .] 8/20/2009 11:24:36 AM
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LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I can see them dragging Plax down the hall now, "No not Sing Sing!"
I think 2 years is a little ridiculous for shooting yourself, but he had a few screw ups in a row and the DA made it known he was gonna push for serious jail time, so I guess it's not that big of a surprise. 8/20/2009 11:30:14 AM
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Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Is his career over ?
32 now, 34 in two years...receivers can play into their mid to late thirties, especially ones with size.
Plus two years of no wear and tear might let him play longer.
[Edited on August 20, 2009 at 11:36 AM. Reason : x] 8/20/2009 11:36:21 AM
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Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, there'll be wear and tear alright 8/20/2009 11:41:18 AM
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arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
you can't carry an unlicensed gun in NYC...if you do, they'll throw the book at you. 8/20/2009 11:44:40 AM
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prb185 All American 1589 Posts user info edit post |
this is like the 5th craziest thing to happen in the NFL this month. 8/20/2009 11:47:26 AM
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Creaver All American 1193 Posts user info edit post |
^ They've got some creative script writers 8/20/2009 11:52:53 AM
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katiencbabe All American 1791 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Is his career over ?
32 now, 34 in two years...receivers can play into their mid to late thirties, especially ones with size.
Plus two years of no wear and tear might let him play longer. " |
I think getting a bullet lodged into your body is considered tear 8/20/2009 11:56:20 AM
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Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
shit ain't right when Stallworth got 3 weeks in jail, yet Vick and Burress have to go through real jail time.
I'm not saying Plax should have gotten off lightly, but Stallworth should be doing 2 years as well. He killed an innocent human being for crying out loud. Plax just shot himself with an unregistered gun. 8/20/2009 12:05:01 PM
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BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
Cheddar Burr 8/20/2009 12:36:37 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39108 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Stallworth wasn't completely at fault 8/20/2009 12:38:22 PM
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BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
Although Plax and Vick got longed dick by the law, Stallworth benefited from the victims family not wanting to pursuit the case out longer. The victim's family in the Stallworth case wanted it done and over with swiftly, and that played a large role in the disposition of the case.
III 8/20/2009 12:47:37 PM
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arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
^plus the family got P.A.I.D. which helps grease the wheels a little. 8/20/2009 12:52:00 PM
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hewylewis Starting Lineup 63 Posts user info edit post |
^ which helped grease the wheels A LOT.
It just goes to show how arbitrarily run judicial system is. It comes down to the fact that the prosecutor is trying to make an example out of Plaxico, which he's done a hell of a job in my opinion. I'm never going to carry and unlicensed gun in NYC. 8/20/2009 1:39:03 PM
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BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's stupid because it's a waste of money and time. He's not a dangerous criminal, if somebody's about to bring a gun but they're like "oh shit, remember what happened to plax?" then they're a fucking idiot anyways and will still probably do it. It would make a lot more sense for him to do a little time, then do a whole shit ton of community service, talk to kids, shit like that. 8/20/2009 1:43:09 PM
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jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Stallworth also cooperated with the Police and legal system. He accepted his guilt from the get-go and was remorseful without having been told by his advisors. He did everything the right way, and didn't try to lie and get out of it. Vick and Plaxico tried to skirt the system, and as a result, they got the exact opposite. Stallworth manned up and got treated fairly because of it. 8/20/2009 1:49:06 PM
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arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Stallworth manned up and got treated fairly because of it." |
exactly. and Plax thought it would be a good idea to hide the gun and do all this other bullshit.
Now maybe he will realize that, even though he's a pro athlete, he's not above the law. 8/20/2009 2:02:05 PM
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wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
I've heard a few legal analysts saying Stallworth wouldn't have gotten any prison time had they went to trial, which played into the plea deal being light on jail time b/c the DA wanted to offer him something he'd accept.
Basically the dude ran out in front of him, and it was highly probable he would have hit him anyway so the DA had virtually no chance to prove alcohol was a factor. 8/20/2009 2:03:21 PM
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packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ Stallworth wasn't completely at fault" |
Fuck that.
He was drinking and driving. Intended to or not he took a man's life. 8/20/2009 2:08:24 PM
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wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^
Quote : | "Basically the dude ran out in front of him, and it was highly probable he would have hit him anyway so the DA had virtually no chance to prove alcohol was a factor." |
8/20/2009 2:10:43 PM
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BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Basically the dude ran out in front of him, and it was highly probable he would have hit him anyway so the DA had virtually no chance to prove alcohol was a factor."" |
Very true statement.
Quote : | ""Stallworth manned up and got treated fairly because of it."" |
Excellent observation & statement.
Quote : | "He was drinking and driving. Intended to or not he took a man's life." |
Maybe true, but not exactly how the law works
Quote : | "I think it's stupid because it's a waste of money and time. He's not a dangerous criminal, if somebody's about to bring a gun but they're like "oh shit, remember what happened to plax?" then they're a fucking idiot anyways and will still probably do it. It would make a lot more sense for him to do a little time, then do a whole shit ton of community service, talk to kids, shit like that." |
Unfortunately true....
III 8/20/2009 2:33:49 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39108 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fuck that.
He was drinking and driving. Intended to or not he took a man's life." |
you obviously don't know very much about the case
they have video of the guy running in across the road, without a crosswalk, and running right in front of stallworths car 8/20/2009 2:48:28 PM
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ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
hewylewis w/ the News 8/20/2009 2:59:10 PM
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ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
^^ how did they get video of it
sorry i'm busy today and was looking but couldn't find it 8/20/2009 3:47:34 PM
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JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
if he wasnt drinking and driving he wouldnt be there to hit the guy running out into the road 8/20/2009 3:57:32 PM
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thegoodlife3 All American 39108 Posts user info edit post |
^ that is some absolutely retarded logic
he wouldn't have had to have been drinking to hit the dude
he ran into the car 8/20/2009 4:00:21 PM
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Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
Vick: Conspired over the course of time to commit crime. Plax: Mandatory Sentencing; Stallworth: Been beat to death; guy ran in front of his car. 8/20/2009 4:00:30 PM
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JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
if he hails a cab or gets a ride he doesnt hit the guy, instead he drives drunk and hits someone 8/20/2009 4:03:14 PM
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ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
ok a surveillance camera wow stallworth is fucking lucky that was there 8/20/2009 4:09:13 PM
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BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, say Donte was not drinking, no alcohol, but still on the same route at the same time. Guy runs out in front of a sober guys car. Guy still would have died.
No one is saying that Drink & Driv is right; rather they are saying that it was not the proximate cause of hitting the guy. In other words, the guy actually ran into & hit the car. Only problem is that the car is alot more durable than the guy.
But please remember, drinking and driving is wrong.
III 8/20/2009 4:11:01 PM
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wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if he hails a cab or gets a ride he doesnt hit the guy, instead he drives drunk and hits someone" |
you're right, the cab/ride would have. 8/20/2009 4:45:05 PM
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BigMan157 no u 103352 Posts user info edit post |
if only the tire company that made the tires on his car had made them a little more shoddy, they could have blown out at exactly the right moment and he would have missed hitting that dude
the owner of that tire company is clearly a murderer for making tires too well 8/20/2009 6:15:12 PM
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mdbncsu All American 4923 Posts user info edit post |
I never heard about this "video", has anyone seen it, or have a link to an article mentioning it?
I did see Stallworth give an interview where he said that he honked at the guy AND flashed his head lights. If you have time to honk and flash your lights you should have time to apply the brakess or swerve to avoid the dude.
Stallworth should be in prison for a lot longer. He killed a living person, fuck him. 8/20/2009 6:37:09 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
Well the family's perspective was that the guy is going to remain dead no matter what, might as well get some serious cash money out of the deal instead of something less tangible like knowing the guy who did it is behind bars 8/20/2009 6:44:58 PM
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jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I did see Stallworth give an interview where he said that he honked at the guy AND flashed his head lights. If you have time to honk and flash your lights you should have time to apply the brakess or swerve to avoid the dude." |
Maybe he saw him start to walk across the street and honked his horns and flashed his lights. Then the guy continued to run/walk across the street right into the path of the vehicle. Maybe there were other cars in oncoming lames.
You have no idea what happened. What was determined in court was that the guy probably would have got hit whether or not Stallworth was drinking. But he was drinking, so he got punished accordingly. Stallworth also stopped at the scene and notified the authorities. He didn't run from the cops or lie like Buress or Vick. He showed remorse from the get-go and basically went into a depression after the incident.
Although vehicular manslaughter from driving while impaired is seen legally as an intentional crime...it's not the same intent that dogfighting and knowingly taking a loaded gun into a late night club are. Stallworth did everything right after the incident (and not because he had to to "save face")...and the other two did everything wrong.
I'm not a fan of drunk driving at all...but I have no problem with Stallworth getting less punishment than Vick and Buress. 8/21/2009 2:54:43 AM
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not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
the plaxico thing totally blows my mind. unregistered or not...fucking 2 years for accidentally shooting yourself? ludicrous. 8/21/2009 3:15:41 AM
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skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
miscarriage of justice, here 8/21/2009 8:59:39 AM
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ssjamind All American 30098 Posts user info edit post |
mandatory minimums can go to hell
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution 8/21/2009 2:32:52 PM
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scm011 All American 2042 Posts user info edit post |
i don't have a problem with that moron going to jail
and he's not going to prison for shooting himself
he's going to prison for firing an unlicensed gun in a fucking crowded public area
there are so many levels of stupidity involved in this case that i just can't feel sorry for him
[Edited on August 21, 2009 at 3:33 PM. Reason : .] 8/21/2009 3:31:56 PM
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jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Poor guy:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/morning-jolt/09/24/plaxico-hazed-in-prison/index.html
Quote : | "And he thought Cowboys fans were nasty. Plaxico Burress got a zero's welcome behind bars at Rikers Island, including taunts of "a - - hole!" and "The Giants suck!" according to jail guards. "He was depressed," said one guard from Rikers, where the former Giants superstar spent his first-ever night behind bars. "He was trying to keep to himself, but everyone was yelling at him." "These people got nothing," a second guard explained of the taunts. "What else are they gonna do?" (New York Post)
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9/24/2009 10:38:37 AM
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NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
Freedom!
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themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
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KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
i hope Carolina signs him 6/6/2011 12:45:54 PM
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dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
how's the leg? 6/6/2011 12:57:02 PM
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themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Please to see hat
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