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d357r0y3r
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Can someone explain this one to me? I've yet to hear a good reason why guys should put the toilet seat down. Maybe I'm missing a part of the puzzle, but it seems like every argument you could make boils down to "do it because you don't want to get bitched at by a woman."

I've heard that it's because women have to sit down on the toilet, and if the seat is up, they would sit on the wrong part. Are people actually this retarded? I learned a valuable lesson when I was 4 years old or so. Look at the toilet before you sit on it, because if the seat is down, there are going to be problems.

8/29/2009 7:31:33 PM

lucyinthesky
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The entire lid should be down in general for safety purposes so animals and small children do not fall in.

8/29/2009 7:33:41 PM

d357r0y3r
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Animals and small children could still fall in, especially on a toilet that doesn't have a true lid.

It's not like guys can't just keep the main seat down, and pee through that smaller hole. We lift the seat up because there's a certain amount of "spray" that could get on the seat. It makes sense to lift it in the first place, especially if you're living with other people. What doesn't make sense is the expectation that the guy also puts it back down. Why should we have to do twice as much work?

8/29/2009 7:39:31 PM

AstralEngine
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8/29/2009 7:40:39 PM

elise
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In our house we put the whole lid down.

1) I don't want to look in the toilet when I'm brushing my teeth, taking a bath, etc....

2) Molly (cat) follows me every where and as soon she knows I'm going to the bathroom she runs in and jumps on the toilet. She has fallen in. Gross, and very bad when we have that awesome blue water.

[Edited on August 29, 2009 at 7:45 PM. Reason : ...]

8/29/2009 7:42:03 PM

djeternal
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When I had 2 male roommates, we used to make our girlfriends and any other broads that came over put the toilet seat up

it's only fair

8/29/2009 7:42:15 PM

EMCE
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women just want this because they are lazy.

their whole argument boils down to "because I'm too lazy to look at the toilet, and put the seat down if it's up. I just want to be able to back blindly onto the toilet, and sit down"

8/29/2009 7:43:02 PM

Smath74
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^^^sounds like you have a stupid cat. (is stupid cat redundant?)

I do not put the seat down.

[Edited on August 29, 2009 at 7:44 PM. Reason : ]

8/29/2009 7:44:11 PM

elise
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My cat is indeed stupid. Cute, but stupid.

8/29/2009 7:44:45 PM

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8/29/2009 7:45:00 PM

djeternal
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i mean, I put the seat and the lid down when I am done now a days, but back in the day I would leave it up just on sheer principle.

8/29/2009 7:45:18 PM

d357r0y3r
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"1) I don't want to look in the toilet when I'm brushing my teeth, taking a bath, etc.... "


Seriously? I don't find a clean toilet bowl to be disgusting in any way. I mean, yeah...you know it's used for getting rid of waste, but wouldn't the toilet itself remind you of that, even if the lid was closed?

8/29/2009 7:45:24 PM

0EPII1
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"1) I don't want to look in the toilet when I'm brushing my teeth, taking a bath, etc.... "


Well maybe then you should make sure your toilet doesn't look like this anymore:

8/29/2009 7:46:36 PM

elise
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^^yes, seriously. i can just imagine me dropping my toothbrush and it landing in the toilet. ew. i am NOT an obsessively clean person until it comes to the bathroom.

i clean the bathroom religiously, the thought of mold makes me cringe.

[Edited on August 29, 2009 at 7:51 PM. Reason : ^that makes me gag]

8/29/2009 7:47:50 PM

d357r0y3r
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I usually brush my teeth over the sink. Though, brushing directly over the toilet is an intriguing concept. brb

8/29/2009 7:49:59 PM

lucyinthesky
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I walk around the house while brushing my teeth. Staring at the toilet while brushing your teeth is kind of weird.

8/29/2009 7:50:54 PM

not dnl
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i'd say 50% of the time i put the seat down, 5% of the time i put the lid down, and 45% of the time i leave both up

8/29/2009 7:54:29 PM

elise
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I don't stare at it, lol! (it stares at me )

but obviously i suck at life so i'm going to stop trying to defend my stupidity.

8/29/2009 8:06:00 PM

Chop
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if you want to get laid, you will put the seat down. that's all that you need to know.

8/29/2009 9:22:39 PM

begonias
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put the lid down

that way everyone has to do work to use the toilet

8/29/2009 9:27:33 PM

LimpyNuts
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Put the lid down so stuff doesn't fall in/help contain the stench if you just dropped a log. If you don't care about stuff falling in, it is entirely illogical to change the configuration of the lid/seat when you're done.

The entire argument is illogical, and if you can't be bothered to check the configuration of the toilet seat/lid before you use the bathroom, then you need to be fucking potty trained. Seriously.

Women complai because they don't want to touch the seat with their hands. You know what bitch? You're going to wash your hands when you're done anyways so stop whining.

8/29/2009 10:52:45 PM

elise
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yeah, but before they wash their hands they have to wipe...potentially getting whatever germs you got on your hands onto your "areas." but...you are sitting your ass on it anyways.......



i dunno. i keep mine closed for the reasons i listed before, but i think as far as the falling in thing, unless you are getting up to pee during the night and are drowsy, you shouldn't really make that mistake,

[Edited on August 29, 2009 at 11:25 PM. Reason : .]

8/29/2009 11:25:18 PM

JTMONEYNCSU
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just do it. it takes 1 second to lift the lid. OMG SO HARD TO DO

[Edited on August 29, 2009 at 11:30 PM. Reason : \/ you right]

8/29/2009 11:27:01 PM

volex
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solution: if the seat is down, piss on it

8/29/2009 11:30:20 PM

BigEgo
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It's easier to put it down then put it up (gravity) so it should be left up at all times.

8/29/2009 11:30:36 PM

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"Women complai because they don't want to touch the seat with their hands. You know what bitch? You're going to wash your hands when you're done anyways so stop whining. "


i also don't want to see your pee sprinkles and stray pubic hairs stuck to the toilet reminding me that IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII am going to have to clean it.

if it is my house, you follow my rules biatches.

8/29/2009 11:33:34 PM

EMCE
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meh...

I clean my bathroom

frequently

8/29/2009 11:35:06 PM

roddy
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pure lazyiness, deserve to get pissed on

8/29/2009 11:39:29 PM

BigEgo
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"if it is my house, you follow my rules biatches."


If I'm a guest then of course, but in a shared bathroom that shit is staying up

8/29/2009 11:41:25 PM

Bweez
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Because toilet flushing creates a tornado of toilet water that goes all over the room. Enjoy piss and shit water on your toothbrush.

8/30/2009 12:04:49 AM

0EPII1
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^ better for the immune system, seriously.

8/30/2009 12:06:06 AM

titans78
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What the hell is going on in some of your people's bathrooms, and how come it is an apparent fear of many people that somehow an incident will occur that results in toothbrush + toilet water?

I don't know about anyone else, but the toilet seat stays wherever I last put it and only gets moved on a need to move basis.

8/30/2009 12:14:30 AM

mcfluffle
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i don't give much thought to how he leaves the toilet seat

8/30/2009 12:28:39 AM

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Suppose there are two people, M and F, sharing a house with a single “toilet.” This toilet must be put to use five times per day by each of them. At any given time, each person is equally likely to use the toilet.

The toilet has two modes of operation: “seat up” and “seat down.” F must always use the toilet in the “seat down” mode. However, M uses it in the “seat down” mode only 20 percent of the time, and uses it in the “seat up” mode 80 percent of the time. There is some costs borne every time a person switches the toilet between modes.

For simplicity, consider a single day in their lives. Total daily household income is y . Suppose that the day’s utility of each individual is equal to his or her consumption that day, minus the total switching costs borne. In particular, if individual i switches the toilet mode T_i times and receives c_i units of consumption, his or her utility is given by U(c_i - T_i*s) , where U is a strictly concave utility function. Since the number of toilet switches may be random, expected utility is given by E(U(c_i - T_i*s)).

Part I: Probability of toilet-mode switching

A. Whenever F uses the toilet, what is the probability she will need to use it in a different mode than the previous user?

B. When M uses the toilet, what is the probability he will need to use it in a different mode than the previous user?

C. Assuming the toilet mode is only switched when it needs to be, what is the expected number of toilet mode switches on a particular day?

Part II: Efficient allocation of consumption and switching costs

A. Suppose the toilet mode is only switched immediately prior to use, by the person who needs to use it. Given this toilet-mode switching rule, solve as explicitly as you can for the efficient allocation of consumption. For simplicity, you may restrict your attention to the case of equal Pareto weights.

B. Above, we assumed a toilet-mode switching rule that changed the seat immediately prior to use. Is it possible to construct a Pareto-improvement using another toilet-mode switching rule? If so, characterize the new rule. If not, explain why the rule in Part II.A is efficient.

C. Suppose that person F faces a higher switching cost s than person M. If we were to continue to use the optimal toilet-mode switching rule you derived in Parts II.A and II.B, would the efficient allocation of consumption be different than in the case of equal switching costs? Show this formally and then intuitively explain your answer.

Part III: Competitive equilibrium

Define a “competitive equilibrium” in toilet-switching as a switching rule from which neither party has an incentive to deviate. Does the Pareto-optimal mode-switching rule from Part II satisfy this definition of “competitive equilibrium?” For simplicity, you may assume that both M and F receive equal shares of consumption (i.e., each person receives y/2 units of consumption).

8/30/2009 1:46:02 AM

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