1.) Why they don't give anyone else shit

2.) Why they move to [insert region here] and integrate rather than compare, contrast, and bitch

3.) Why they want to leave the midwest in the first place...everyone else bitches and moans too much

9/1/2009 9:53:45 AM

it is true that many of the midwestern transplants rarely make note of difference between their previous location and here. They seem to transition very well.

9/1/2009 10:03:46 AM

i hate to be mean but i do hate a mid-western accent.

9/1/2009 10:17:10 AM

you mean...the lack of an accent? most midwesterners don't have an easily identifiable one, which is why they make great news anchors

9/1/2009 10:19:59 AM

1 They all have guns - an armed society is a polite society.

2 ^

3 There isn't anything to do in the midwest

and in before this turns into an unsweet vs sweet tea or pop vs soda thread

unsweet tea and pop ftw

9/1/2009 10:24:06 AM

some people in the Midwest do drink sweet tea, I've lived in Nebraska, Missouri, and Wisconsin and seen it everywhere. As for soda or pop, who gives a crap?

9/1/2009 10:40:03 AM

Northern Midwest has that German and Scandinavian inflection in their accent.

9/1/2009 10:40:20 AM

I have family in Minnesota. They would all fit in fine in bumfuck NC.

9/1/2009 10:42:38 AM

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"it is true that many of the midwestern transplants rarely make note of difference between their previous location and here. They seem to transition very well."

sarcasm? cause i could list quite a few things that took time and is still taking time to adjust to

[Edited on September 1, 2009 at 11:03 AM. Reason : sdfs]

9/1/2009 11:03:40 AM

dollar dances at weddings

9/1/2009 11:04:07 AM

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"you mean...the lack of an accent? most midwesterners don't have an easily identifiable one"

might have to disagree...Chicago, Wisconsin and Minnesota all have distinguishable accents

and Ohio just sucks

9/1/2009 11:07:07 AM

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"you mean...the lack of an accent? most midwesterners don't have an easily identifiable one" might have to disagree...Chicago, Wisconsin and Minnesota all have distinguishable accents and Ohio just sucks "

wrong the real middle midwest, kansas/nebraska is where they send southern or eastern news anchors to practice speech for the exact reason quagmire posted above, because there is little to no accent

9/1/2009 11:14:53 AM

what are you talking about? real middle midwest?

States of the Midwest
Illinois - accents

Indiana - dont know

Iowa - dont know

Kansas - i have extended family here and they really dont have any

Michigan - accents

Minnesota - accents

Missouri - not sure

Nebraska -not sure

North Dakota - accent

Ohio - this state just sucks

South Dakota - accent

Wisconsin - accent

http://geography.about.com/library/misc/blmidwest.htm

i was saying that several Midwesterners do have accents but it depends on where you are from. i did not make a blanket statement nor did i make up the real middle midwest to prove a moot point.

[Edited on September 1, 2009 at 11:24 AM. Reason : i added my thoughts on accents ]

9/1/2009 11:22:46 AM

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"South Dakota - accent "

im from here and have no accent just pronounce words different

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"wrong the real middle midwest, kansas/nebraska"

i dont know where the real part came from maybe i got cut off and answered the phone when i was typing this i have no idea, it should just say middle midwest

and it depends how far north you go in minn for people to have accents

[Edited on September 1, 2009 at 12:51 PM. Reason : asdfas]

9/1/2009 12:47:25 PM

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"im from here and have no accent just pronounce words different"

this is called an accent.

9/1/2009 12:49:05 PM

accent= drawl or you say all your words in a similar way (in my opinion)

i say rut = root
ruff= roof
and maybe two or three other words

9/1/2009 12:54:19 PM

I say closent instead of closet, as far as I know only other people from Nebraska do that. Other than that I have no accent. I quit doing that when I remember once I realized it wasn't normal.

9/1/2009 12:56:28 PM

yeah thats an accent alright. and my family on my dad's side are Sioux so i'm familiar with that SD accent.

9/1/2009 12:56:57 PM

^ i think you mean lack of accent saying two -four words different is not an accent

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"Other than that I have no accent."

same here with my two words

[Edited on September 1, 2009 at 1:00 PM. Reason : fdsafsd]

9/1/2009 12:58:04 PM

you can't hear it because you're from there, but the inflection is very very very different i assure you.

9/1/2009 1:00:13 PM

^ thats why noone here thinks i have an accent of any variety damn they must be deaf

9/1/2009 1:01:07 PM

you live in raleigh right? a city devoid of almost all accents due to exteme population by people from other places. all i know is that i've spent a ton of time in SD and i can tell a person from there almost instantly just by how they speak...


so maybe your friends are just idiots or don't listen to you.

9/1/2009 1:03:42 PM

http://www.city-data.com/forum/south-dakota/308590-there-south-dakotan-accent.html


here's a bunch of south dakotans talking about their accent. golly gee.

9/1/2009 1:06:05 PM

i live in cary. and i lived in south dakota for 12 years.

teachers/friends/coworkers/bosses/ geez what a bunch of idiots


i promise you would never guess where i was from if you didnt already know

9/1/2009 1:06:22 PM

well then you just lost your accent its not that hard to do really.

9/1/2009 1:07:17 PM

Every person has an accent, as accents are relative. If you were in England, you'd have an American accent.

Some accents are becoming much less pronounced due to an increasingly global economy paired with greater exposure to media and entertainment.

9/1/2009 1:15:49 PM

^

9/1/2009 1:16:45 PM

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"accents are relative. If you were in England, you'd have an American accent."

which is exactly why the midwest is traditionally considered to have NO accent, relative to the rest of the US...the midwesterner "accent" is one considered to be without any particular definition (whereas the south is considered to have a "drawl", the southwest has a "twang", etc.)

pronunciation and accent are not the same thing...pronunciation is usually specific to an individual, while accents tend to be regional

9/1/2009 1:30:25 PM

then i submit to you that the lack of accent constitutes accent.

9/1/2009 1:32:19 PM

But midwesterners have a nasally whine associated with their dialect. Thus, they have an accent.

9/1/2009 1:32:57 PM

also pronunciation usually is a function of accent. and the accents of the people around you where you've grown up.

9/1/2009 1:35:44 PM

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"then i submit to you that the lack of accent constitutes accent."

okay, fine...then i submit to you that it is in all actuality a superior accent since it is considered by the nation to be the most impartial and most pleasant to listen to (hence the reason that US media focuses on reporters with this accent)

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"But midwesterners have a nasally whine associated with their dialect. Thus, they have an accent."

as a whole, that's not true...that's kind of like saying that NC mountainfolk dialects represent the south as a whole

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"also pronunciation usually is a function of accent. and the accents of the people around you where you've grown up."

actually, it's exactly the opposite...accent is a form of pronunciation

9/1/2009 1:41:37 PM

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"Ohio - this state just sucks"

I will admit there are multiple accents in the state though. I'm from southern Ohio and we all sound like redneck country folk compared the the northerners who just sound goofy to me. Middle of the state is the same as Michigan, Indiana, Ill....void of much of anything.

I move down here and I sound like a Yankee to everyone

9/1/2009 1:44:13 PM

^^ Name one area in the midwest where people don't talk out of their nose.

9/1/2009 1:47:55 PM

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"it is true that many of the midwestern transplants rarely make note of difference between their previous location and here. They seem to transition very well."

I am from Livermoore, Iowa way out in the middle of nowhere. There is a big differencebetween Raleigh and Livermoore. You can see 7 different towns from my Grandpa's farm because there are no trees. If you see trees then you know there is either a body of water near by, or a house.

9/1/2009 1:49:43 PM

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"Name one area in the midwest where people don't talk out of their nose."

well, i'm from just south of st. louis and no one i know there does...and since i'm also from there and no one as commented on me supposedly talking through my nose, i assume it's not happening (in fact, quite the opposite...when i meet people for the first time, they ask where i'm from since they can't tell)

but i'm just going by my experiences and common sense, so maybe i'm wrong...for what it's worth, hypernasality (talking through your nose) is an identified characteristic of new yorkers in particular and northerners in general, not midwesterners

^ i think the point is that they don't dwell on it...for example, you see these threads where northerners are talking about southerners and vice-versa, but midwestern transplants just live and don't whine about it

[Edited on September 1, 2009 at 1:53 PM. Reason : .]

9/1/2009 1:52:16 PM

i've studied accents for years both in college in linguistics and anthropology classes as well as paying attention to regional dialects and what not elsewhere. true accents are dying off slightly. but they are still prevalent. you just have to be in tune to hear them.

9/1/2009 1:54:57 PM

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"i've studied accents for years both in college in linguistics and anthropology classes"

and they failed to teach you that accent is a form of pronunciation and not the other way around? you should probably get your money back

9/1/2009 1:56:28 PM

But if people where you're from can't tell where you're from, then it means that you don't have an accent that would identify you with that place. Therefore, there must be an accent where you're from. Otherwise, you wouldn't sound as though you're from elsewhere.

People always ask if I'm from California or somewhere far West, which couldn't be farther from the reality. It doesn't mean I don't have an accent. It just means that mine differs from the typical one associated with my hometown.

9/1/2009 1:56:55 PM

well i'd take the word of someone with a doctorate before i'd take the word of someone who chose his name with the thought giggity giggity in mind.

9/1/2009 2:01:57 PM

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"But if people where you're from can't tell where you're from, then it means that you don't have an accent that would identify you with that place. Therefore, there must be an accent where you're from. Otherwise, you wouldn't sound as though you're from elsewhere."

that makes no sense...you're saying that the people where i used to live didn't know where i was from? even though i was born there, grew up there, and lived with them? or are you saying that the people here in NC don't know where i'm from and therefore i have an accent? if the first, you're not really saying anything of value...if the second, that's just silly since it proves my point...they couldn't place me specifically because i had no discernible accent (which is the whole purpose behind this friendly debate)...if my speech contains no patterns easily identified with a particular region, then i am without an accent

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"People always ask if I'm from California or somewhere far West, which couldn't be farther from the reality. It doesn't mean I don't have an accent. It just means that mine differs from the typical one associated with my hometown."

i think you're missing the point...there are standards of pronunciation that are outlined and widely accepted by our country as a whole (the dictionary, for one)...if a person speaks in accordance with the "correct" pronunciation and without identifiable accents or dialects distorting the correct pronunciation, then they have NO accent...this is a fact in most cases by definition of the term "accent", whether you like it or not

i hesitantly accept the whole "no accent is an accent" bit because, as noted above, accents are relative...if you are the only person in a crowd of southern hicks who can speak correctly, yeah, you stand out and have an accent by comparison...but by default, speaking correctly with correct pronunciation is the very lack of an accent

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"well i'd take the word of someone with a doctorate before i'd take the word of someone who chose his name with the thought giggity giggity in mind. "

i'm with you 100%...since this is the same screen name i've had since 1996 when i signed up for my AIM account (which is still active, which is crazy to me), i'm glad that doesn't apply to me

my point, though, is that just because a person has a doctorate doesn't make them the end-all/be-all for information and it doesn't necessarily mean that just because you were TAUGHT by people with doctorates, you are correct in what you are saying...a simple google search would have shown you that what were you saying was actually wrong

[Edited on September 1, 2009 at 2:21 PM. Reason : .]

9/1/2009 2:20:33 PM

you wasted your words. there's no way i'm reading that when i was just killing time anyways. do i believe what i wrote? yes. do i care what anyone else thinks? not really. its not that relative to me what your opinion on this is.

9/1/2009 2:21:44 PM

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"there's no way i'm reading that when i was just killing time anyways."

i'm cool with that...we both know that what you say is incorrect and learning something true is scary

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"do i believe what i wrote? yes. do i care what anyone else thinks? not really. its not that relative to me what your opinion on this is."

hah, i find it amusing that you're willingly admitting that you "believe" something that is blatantly untrue...you made a mistake but you're going to stand by it, despite the fact that a simple google search will give you a dozen proofs that you are incorrect?

dumbass

9/1/2009 2:27:25 PM

oh god no not the rolling eyes. i don't know what i'm supposed to do about that.

9/1/2009 2:29:38 PM

not much, obviously...it would be silly for you to learn something of value, wouldn't it? facts are scary things when ignorance is sooooooo much easier, eh?

whenever i encounter a dumbass, it makes me sad to think i might have shared the same institution of higher learning for my education and that they got out with a degree

9/1/2009 2:33:28 PM

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah insults blah blah blah blah blah blah

9/1/2009 2:34:20 PM

blah blah blah blah blah blah blah facts blah blah blah blah blah blah

9/1/2009 2:36:17 PM

touche' oh and shoot me one of those google sites you're talking about. i'm curious.

9/1/2009 2:36:50 PM

*sigh*

9/1/2009 2:37:26 PM

^^ no problem...try the ever-present wikipedia, for starters...since you already admitted to having trouble reading, i'll highlight the first line in the first paragraph for you, just in case: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accent_%28linguistics%29

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"In linguistics, an accent is a manner of pronunciation of a language. Accents can be confused with dialects which are varieties of language differing in vocabulary, syntax, and morphology, as well as pronunciation. Dialects are usually spoken by a group united by geography or social status."

[Edited on September 1, 2009 at 2:39 PM. Reason : .]

9/1/2009 2:38:56 PM