Oh it's good.

9/4/2009 3:24:43 PM

i just can't click it.

9/4/2009 3:28:11 PM

oh jesus christ.

i made it to around the guy with the wheat.

9/4/2009 3:30:53 PM

oh lol. this is gonna be good.

9/4/2009 3:33:47 PM

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"DOUCHE BAG ITT"

9/4/2009 3:34:00 PM

this reminds me of a nation of yahweh/ yahweh ben yahweh cable access episode

9/4/2009 3:34:23 PM

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" Glenn Beck debuts as Fox News art critic Yes, really. On last night's "Glenn Beck" program, Beck, who is best-known for hysterical, tearful, racial rantings that have cost his program nearly five dozen sponsors in the last few months, tore into the "progressive" Rockefeller(s) on the charge that they were responsible for delivering "communist" and "fascist" art to New York. Beck went on to suggest that "Rockefeller" (which one or ones was not made clear) was a communist-sympathizer, a fascism-supporter and a hater of America. [Image above: Beck on "Glenn Beck," Fox News Channel, Sept. 2, 2009.] Beck opened the segment by arguing that a 1937 Carl Paul Jennewein intaglio carving, Industry and Agriculture, was "communist" art because one figure is holding a longhammer and because the other is holding an agrarian tool, a sickle. Beck went on to imply that because an unnamed Rockefeller had put the Jennewein there, that Rockefeller was a commie symp. Not quite. The sickle and the hammer have been used separately to signify agrarian interests and workmen or craftsmen in art respectively since at least the Byzantine period. In the 19th and 20th centuries the hammer and sickle were often fused in a range of European symbology, in both provincial heraldry and in state insignia. It wasn't until 1922 that the Red Army adopted them as a state symbol. (It became the Soviet state symbol in 1923.) YouthLeadingIndustryDet.jpgBeck's next target was Attilio Piccirilli's 1936 Youth Leading Industry (detail at right, image of entire work here), a Pyrex-brick relief. Piccirlli, best-known during his lifetime for the Marine Memorial at Columbus Circle and for being New York mayor Fiorello LaGuardia's favorite artist and best friend, occasionally dipped into imagery with which Italian fascists would have been comfortable. (Another of his sculptures for Rockefeller Center, Advance Forever, Eternal Youth was so close to such that on Dec. 12, 1941 Rockefeller Center covered it with a wooden board.) Apparently aroused by a particularly striking, allegedly fascist male figure, Beck tore into the Piccirilli. "Who is this? Who is this?" Beck asked, his voice rising to a yell. "This is the strong leader taking that, using that industry and those machines to lead us into the, uh, bright future, led by our children. Gee, who's having indoctrination next week? Oh yeah, that's right, our president. Completely unrelated. This represents, at the time this was made, Mussolini. This represents Mussolini." I've done a quick survey of the literature on Youth and actually no, the figure at the right doesn't represent Mussolini. It's just a generic, heroic male figure representing industry. There is no evidence to indicate that Piccirilli was a fascist-sympathizer. At the time of the commissions discussed here, he'd lived in New York for four decades. He received these commissions only after a much-publicized dustup about Rockfeller Center pursuing Europeans such as Matisse and Picasso to create the art for Rockefeller Center.) Youth Leading Industry survived World War II intact and unobstructed and has remained on view ever since. GlennBeckRappingMartyr.jpgShortly after that, Beck pivoted into an accusation that the Obama administration is using art as an indoctrination tool of some kind: "This administration is beginning to use art as propaganda. This is nothing new to progressives." (Nevermind that the greatest propagandistic work of our time was the Matthew Barney-esque installation-art-cum-performance created by Scott Sforza, a Republican.) Beck didn't explain how the Obama administration is using art as propoganda. I still haven't figured out how the Rockefellers ended up as agricultural collectivist, labor-loving progressives, either. Beck closed his segment by appealing to the black helicopter crowd: "Don't let any of these people ever tell you anything other than the truth... the progressives of today -- it makes sense that we're headed down this road. It makes sense that you feel a little uneasy, and everything seems to be a little hidden. It's not if you look. You're awake you need to see the things hidden in plain sight." Yes, even if you have to make them up in order to see them. "

http://www.artsjournal.com/man/2009/09/glenn_beck_debuts_as_fox_news.html

9/4/2009 3:35:11 PM

i want atleast 35 seconds of the 55 seconds back that i watched this

9/4/2009 3:35:31 PM

He may be nuts, but he makes a lot of valid points

9/4/2009 3:37:38 PM

Nuts and valid cannot be synonymous.

9/4/2009 3:39:09 PM

uh, no... he really doesn't

9/4/2009 3:39:31 PM

this would be more ridiculous if fox news wasn't a joke to begin with

9/4/2009 3:40:08 PM

I like how he hates on NBC as if he's trying to further convince his dwindling audience that they MUST stay. Communist!

9/4/2009 3:40:59 PM

VALID POINTS!!!!!!?!???

9/4/2009 3:43:56 PM

People watch this shit and get riled up. Those people are fucking stupid.

[Edited on September 4, 2009 at 3:44 PM. Reason : I mean the people that belive this assclown.]

9/4/2009 3:44:09 PM

Those that can't go off logic then go off emotions.

[Edited on September 4, 2009 at 3:54 PM. Reason : THEN YOU GO]

9/4/2009 3:47:25 PM

9/4/2009 3:52:07 PM

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"He may be nuts, but he makes a lot of valid points"

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"he may be a serial killer, but he's really a sweet guy!"

9/4/2009 3:53:17 PM

If he had pointed out similarities and contrasted differences to other art around the same time without throwing in his own opinions it would have been fine.

9/4/2009 3:53:36 PM

I like how he says Progressive like it's a bad thing. And then blames Obama for this artwork.

9/4/2009 3:57:07 PM

^Some liberals are calling themselves progressives now.

Also, back then, the progressives were a political party (Teddy Roosevelt).

9/4/2009 3:59:02 PM

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plz to keep hilarity in one thread...thxu

9/4/2009 4:01:28 PM

he is the best avant garde comedian since sacha baron cohen

9/4/2009 4:03:02 PM

Oh how lovely politics can be...

Also, quag, sry.

9/4/2009 4:03:48 PM

9/4/2009 5:06:03 PM

Please tell me one good point he makes.

someone.

I watched a bit over half of it.

9/4/2009 5:46:00 PM

Why all the hate on Roc-A-Fella?

But seriously, what a fucking nutjob asshat idiot.

9/4/2009 7:32:47 PM

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"Republican18: He may be nuts, but he makes a lot of valid points"

you, sir, are clearly leading the competition for Douchebag Fanboy of the Year.

9/4/2009 8:51:19 PM

i agree with republican18, i used to watch him on cnn. i mean he is a total nutjob but he was right about iran (except for the whole end times thing)

9/4/2009 8:56:53 PM

even when he tried to act like a moderate on cnn, he was transparent

9/4/2009 9:01:30 PM

no, he's not right.

he's a habitiual cocaine freebaser.

any crackhead can parrot the latest foreign policy on iran.

9/4/2009 9:01:59 PM

he must be saying something right to be the second most watched cable talk show... maybe its because hes pretty good at predicting things, like the housing crash and so many other things...

9/4/2009 9:41:42 PM

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"i mean he is a total nutjob but he was right about iran"

Oh and the whole "swords into plows" bit also inspired the commie loving pinko US government of the 1960s.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plowshare

9/4/2009 9:52:08 PM

ahahahahaha

this is great

some of you actually respect this fuckers opinion

lol awesome

9/4/2009 9:56:23 PM

If when you say awesome you really mean scary as fuck then yes, that IS awesome.

9/4/2009 9:57:47 PM

whoa whoa, don't act all high and mighty

you're just as retarded as those who watch Fox News 24/7

9/4/2009 9:59:55 PM

Nice try.

9/4/2009 10:01:34 PM

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"he must be saying something right to be the second most watched cable talk show... maybe its because hes pretty good at predicting things, like the housing crash and so many other things..."

yeah with that logic i guess that would make Soldier Boy a great artist, and hollywood must be making better movies with each year cause their ticket sales continue to rise

or it might mean that the people who patronize these things are as dumb as the source so for Glen Beck he must be fortunate to have so many wackos here in the US to make him #2

9/4/2009 10:05:02 PM

so when you say "wackos", do you also consider the people at the town hall meetings as "nazis", also there is a big difference then releasing one 3 min song thats goes over well in night clubs, and a 60 min talk show thats on 5 days a week.

9/4/2009 10:12:30 PM

Who the fuck is Soldier Boy?

9/4/2009 10:41:38 PM

he's the white peoples version...

9/4/2009 10:45:29 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX5S5aINrFE&feature=fvw

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"so when you say "wackos", do you also consider the people at the town hall meetings as "nazis""

i dont even know what you mean by that, but i consider a majority of those people as the same wackos that get their info from beck, palin, etc

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"also there is a big difference then releasing one 3 min song thats goes over well in night clubs, and a 60 min talk show thats on 5 days a week"

look at what is most popular in music, movies, etc it usually has some horrible guilty pleasures that few want to admit to liking but are popular nonetheless
so to assume Beck is right because he is popular is the kind of argument i expect from a Beck fan

9/4/2009 10:53:33 PM

ummm, i don't considering him right because he is popular, I think hes unpopular because he is right, and nobody wants to admit it. I personally don't watch him too much because it depresses the fuck out of me and I'd rather be doing something else.

9/4/2009 10:57:43 PM

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"i don't considering him right because he is popular, I think hes unpopular because he is right"

Wow, you must learn from master Beck

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"he must be saying something right to be the second most watched cable talk show"

so he is unpopular while being popular, and he is right because he is unpopular
well in that case Jeremiah Wright must also be right

9/4/2009 11:08:41 PM

according to the obamas he was....

9/4/2009 11:10:46 PM

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"clearly, the moderators are not doing their jobs in that this thread remains in Chit Chat and has not been moved to TSB"

9/4/2009 11:12:25 PM

Oh this is a TSB thread?

This is Comedy, it belongs in CC

9/4/2009 11:15:45 PM

I notice you've been under attack as of late.

9/4/2009 11:18:38 PM

government run healthcare is laughable...

9/4/2009 11:19:26 PM

What is he even trying to prove? Doesn't he love oil companies?

9/4/2009 11:22:25 PM