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Golovko
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http://www.gizmag.com/bmw-vision-effcient-dynamics-concept/12682/

this thing looks sexy as hell.

9/8/2009 2:26:09 PM

Ahmet
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Figures... Takes an EVO owner to find that thing graceful.

9/8/2009 3:11:46 PM

Golovko
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Well I mean once you get a car that is already awesome from the factory...its hard to go back to wasting $1000's and time on a car to make it some what decent. But i wouldn't expect you to understand...yet.

9/8/2009 3:40:23 PM

shmorri2
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Holy shit. I was just thinking about this the other day. The idea of using a deisel to run an alternator to power either 2 or 4 electric motors for either 2wd or awd setups. Deisels are reliabile and would get great "mileage." Beats having huge/heavy batteries too.

I'm all for it.

9/8/2009 3:48:09 PM

TKE-Teg
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"Oh look, another ugly car from BMW."

9/8/2009 4:16:08 PM

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i think i saw that car in minority report

9/8/2009 4:17:09 PM

0EPII1
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356 hp
590 lb-ft
3,076 lbs
63 mpg
0-60 in 4.6 sec
Battery charges in 2.5 hrs on 220 V

What's not to like?

http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/bmw-vision-efficientdynamics-concept-1/

9/8/2009 7:07:12 PM

shredder
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"356 hp
590 lb-ft
3,076 lbs
63 mpg
0-60 in 4.6 sec
Battery charges in 2.5 hrs on 220 V
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Well yes, that's quite impressive and just dandy! I agree with you.

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"What's not to like?"


Umm, that's easy...the price tag on that biotch is gonna be a nightmare...only thing

9/8/2009 7:40:38 PM

0EPII1
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I am sure BMW will use technology and design elements from that concept in its future models, but if BMW were to make it as it is (which they won't), I guess it would be in the same class as the Tesla and Fisker Karma... i.e., cost anywhere between 60K and 100K.

But... 1.5 litre 3-cyl turbodiesel... oh yeah!

9/8/2009 7:46:46 PM

shredder
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"But... 1.5 litre 3-cyl turbodiesel... oh yeah!"
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Exactly! The auto industry should have started doing this 10 years ago when everyone was freakin out about global warming. Hell, everyone still is. So slowwww. However, there's not much demand for a car that is this quick, and for the price tag that it will carry. Sure it's impressive and has enough torque to tow a fucking camper!!! I wonder how much BMW will alter and make changes to it as it stands now.

[Edited on September 8, 2009 at 10:17 PM. Reason : .]

9/8/2009 10:17:22 PM

0EPII1
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that diesel produces 163 hp and 214 lb-ft, from 1.5 litres and 3 cylinders!

those numbers are normally produced by 4 cylinder gasoline engines displacing 2.3 to 2.5 litres.

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"The auto industry should have started doing this 10 years ago when everyone was freakin out about global warming."


exactly!

9/8/2009 10:38:46 PM

Hurley
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LEST WE FORGET THE 99 CIVIC SI - 1.6L, 160 HP

(nevermind the torque curve bahhahah)

9/8/2009 11:03:19 PM

shredder
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The rims are wayyy out there imo.

http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/bmw-vision-efficientdynamics-concept-1/#41

[Edited on September 8, 2009 at 11:11 PM. Reason : image...meh...click the link]

9/8/2009 11:09:46 PM

0EPII1
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you can't image-ify a URL

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/08/p90047165_highres-1280.jpg

9/8/2009 11:15:24 PM

Igor
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wicked looking ride

i just hope as hell BMW got more balls than GM and this thing won't look like another Prius when it comes out.

9/9/2009 2:46:25 AM

TKE-Teg
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^have you seen how ugly 1/2 the BMWs sold are these days? Not sure why you have such high hopes.

9/9/2009 9:36:40 AM

shmorri2
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I like how the 135i and the M3 look. I prefer the 3 series sedan over the coupe, oddly enough. BMWs, though sexy, are starting to look "bland" in my eyes. Probably because I see them everywhere...

9/9/2009 10:04:56 AM

Golovko
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^^there are no ugly BMW's in the current line up that i've seen. Not all of them are something i'd want to own but they don't look ugly. The 7-series included after its 'touch-ups' with the rear end and head lights.

^I like the rear of the coupe over the sedan haha.

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 10:23 AM. Reason : .]

9/9/2009 10:23:15 AM

TKE-Teg
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1-Series - stubby little Hyundai wanna be
3-Series - sexy in all forms (but have you seen pics of the new 2011 model? Fugly)
5-Series - looks like a tarted up Pontiac, only the M5 looks good (and you shouldn't have to rely on modified fascias, vents, and pipes to look good)
6-Series - looks like a big fat bar of soap
7-Series - new one is an improvement over the last model, which I heard was reported to cause blindness when looked at too often. Still uglier than anything MB, Jaguar or Audi has.
X3 - looks like an aborted X5
X5 - looks good
X6 - cool looking, but what's the point?

9/9/2009 10:37:11 AM

shmorri2
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^^ I do like the rear end of the 3 series coupe as well. I like the front end. I do not like the side shots... it looks awkward, like someone with a very long neck.

9/9/2009 10:43:02 AM

Quinn
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I like the coupe for what that is worth. I would never buy a BMW coupe. If I'm getting a 3500lb car I'm getting four doors.

BMW doesnt make anything ugly. The 1 series is less then ideal but it is not ugly.

$0.02

9/9/2009 10:44:43 AM

0EPII1
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"1-Series - stubby little Hyundai wanna be"


this had me loling... the bmw wants to be like a hyundai?!

9/9/2009 10:53:55 AM

hgtran
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the newer BMWs with Bangle's ends are ugly IMO. They look too much like other cars and not distinctly BMW anymore.

9/9/2009 12:18:19 PM

TKE-Teg
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I forgot to mention the new bloated Z4....ugh

9/9/2009 12:21:29 PM

Golovko
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i forgot about the z4. it actually looks good. Much better than the Z3

9/9/2009 4:12:09 PM

danmangt40
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I like print pics of the new z4, but I went and saw one over at Flow bmw in w-s, and behind that toothy grille in the new z4, there's a tremendous amount of completely empty space. It looked like a small child could crawl in the lower air intake and hide in there! I.e.- it made the whole front end look like an overstyled pos. I much prefer the 135 b/c in print it doesn't look like much, but in person, I've yet to see one that didn't look like an ordinary car, but just "functionally filled to the brim" in every dimension. (tire-to-wheelhouse spacing, amt of room inside per-unit-footprint, amt of the rear end that is available for space to use inside the trunk...). It looks like a super-handy car that has cleverly disguised itself to look like something ordinarily low-key. If it wasn't obvious what it was packing, it'd be totally "sleeper"

9/10/2009 7:39:36 PM

TKE-Teg
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Unfortunately the Z4 is no longer a sports car, more a mini-SL. It's pretty shitty that it doesn't even have a true E-brake.

I think the 135i convertible is closer to the old Z4 than the new Z4, lol. Better performing too.

9/11/2009 11:03:29 AM

Diggler
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I love the break down of BMW's by a Honduh owner, thats hilarious.

9/11/2009 5:36:05 PM

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its german, it must be the best

10/15/2009 3:34:35 PM

sparky
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btt

2/1/2010 12:01:01 PM

0EPII1
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If this is true... it would be awesome! I wonder what market segment (price wise) they will aim for.

BMW Vision EfficientDynamics Concept Confirmed for Production in 2013

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"According to a recent report, BMW will build a production version of the Vision EfficientDynamics Concept.

While details are limited, Inside Line is reporting a source has confirmed the car will be launched in 2013. The source commented that the concept's hybrid powertrain would carry over to the production model, but "there will be less of the synthetic glass and more solid structure added to the final design." The "senior BMW authority" also stated production would likely be limited to less than 10,000 units.

As you may recall, the Vision EfficientDynamics Concept is a plug-in hybrid with a three-cylinder turbodiesel engine and two electric motors. Boasting 262 kW (356 hp) and 800 Nm (590 lb-ft) of torque, the 2+2 coupe accelerates from 0-62 mph in 4.8 seconds before topping out at an electronically limited 155 mph. Despite this impressive performance, the concept consumes just 3.76 liters/100km (equal to 62.6 mpg) while emitting 99 grams of CO2 per kilometer."

2/1/2010 12:08:11 PM

SandSanta
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"the newer BMWs with Bangle's ends are ugly IMO. They look too much like other cars and not distinctly BMW anymore."


What other cars do they resemble, exactly?

2/1/2010 4:26:46 PM

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