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aaronburro
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Remember how part of Obama's stump speech was that everyone could buy the same health insurance that members of Congress get? Whatever happened to that? Guess that is just more of the HOPE and CHANGE he was sellin. We HOPE that he keeps his word, but we see that he CHANGES his tune a lot. You can BELIEVE that

9/9/2009 9:43:20 PM

mambagrl
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used

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salesman

9/9/2009 9:44:30 PM

roddy
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too expensive and the fed union was against it (one of the few perks for fed employees). Unless there was another pool set up for non feds, since you do not have to worry about pre existing conditions the costs would sky rocket and your premiums would also.

9/9/2009 9:47:26 PM

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9/9/2009 9:47:51 PM

ShinAntonio
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Quote :
"Now, if you're one of the tens of millions of Americans who don't currently have health insurance, the second part of this plan will finally offer you quality, affordable choices. If you lose your job or change your job, you will be able to get coverage. If you strike out on your own and start a small business, you will be able to get coverage. We will do this by creating a new insurance exchange - a marketplace where individuals and small businesses will be able to shop for health insurance at competitive prices. Insurance companies will have an incentive to participate in this exchange because it lets them compete for millions of new customers. As one big group, these customers will have greater leverage to bargain with the insurance companies for better prices and quality coverage. This is how large companies and government employees get affordable insurance. It's how everyone in this Congress gets affordable insurance. And it's time to give every American the same opportunity that we've given ourselves."


This is from his speech tonight

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"Now is the time to finally keep the promise of affordable, accessible health care for every single American. If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums. If you don't, you'll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves."


This is from his DNC speech. Sounds like he's still planning on that.

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 9:54 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2009 9:49:21 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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He compromised with Republicans.


Now that we have your question answered, please lock this and fuck off.

9/9/2009 9:51:24 PM

aaronburro
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^^ what is your point? What does that have to do with Obama's campaign "promise"

^ haha, he didn't "compromise" with anything. other than his word

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 9:52 PM. Reason : ]

9/9/2009 9:51:48 PM

roddy
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Actually Congress has a better plan then the regular federal employees. They also have a better retirement package...we should get that also!

OMG, everything someone says when they are trying to get elected is what they will really do....


























































































No new taxes!

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 9:53 PM. Reason : w]

9/9/2009 9:52:40 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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He broke it because he compromised with you ass fucks. He can't win either way. That's why you are retarded.

9/9/2009 9:52:44 PM

aaronburro
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you could offer proof for your assertions. But you won't

9/9/2009 9:53:41 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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Proof: He proposed something, and now he is proposing something else.

You are a retard.

9/9/2009 9:55:24 PM

roddy
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he was asking about proof that he is retarded......

9/9/2009 9:55:50 PM

aaronburro
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how about a link to a news story or something. You can't find it because:

1) He outsourced the job to Congress
2) He never tried to compromise

fuck off, troll

9/9/2009 9:58:23 PM

ShinAntonio
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i'll repost this:

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"Now, if you're one of the tens of millions of Americans who don't currently have health insurance, the second part of this plan will finally offer you quality, affordable choices. If you lose your job or change your job, you will be able to get coverage. If you strike out on your own and start a small business, you will be able to get coverage. We will do this by creating a new insurance exchange - a marketplace where individuals and small businesses will be able to shop for health insurance at competitive prices. Insurance companies will have an incentive to participate in this exchange because it lets them compete for millions of new customers. As one big group, these customers will have greater leverage to bargain with the insurance companies for better prices and quality coverage. This is how large companies and government employees get affordable insurance. It's how everyone in this Congress gets affordable insurance. And it's time to give every American the same opportunity that we've given ourselves."


This is from his speech tonight

Quote :
"Now is the time to finally keep the promise of affordable, accessible health care for every single American. If you have health care, my plan will lower your premiums. If you don't, you'll be able to get the same kind of coverage that members of Congress give themselves."


This is from his DNC speech. Sounds like he's still planning on that.

9/9/2009 10:02:30 PM

aaronburro
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haha. That's not at all what he said on the campaign trail. he said "the same plan." Not "the same kind of coverage." Moving the goalposts for the win!

9/9/2009 10:04:15 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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Well, the OP is proof of his original proposal, and the speech he just fucking gave on TV is proof of his new proposal that is slightly more towards the right. You want me to link to the fucking TV guide or something?

9/9/2009 10:04:46 PM

aaronburro
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fuck off, troll

9/9/2009 10:05:15 PM

ShinAntonio
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Really? Well post a link to back up your claim.

This has the transcript of his DNC
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/28/barack-obama-democratic-c_n_122224.html

Otherwise YOU fuck off, dumbshit

9/9/2009 10:06:14 PM

aaronburro
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hey, I appreciate you commenting, Shin. But how many times did he use the words "The exact same plan" on the campaign trail? Picking one instance where he said "kind of coverage" is disingenuous, when EVERYONE took his remarks to mean "the exact same plan." that's the whole point.

I'm telling OopsPowTroll to fuck off, because he is doing nothing but trolling.

9/9/2009 10:08:10 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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Quote :
"fuck off, troll"


Flawless victory.

9/9/2009 10:09:26 PM

ShinAntonio
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But you haven't offered one instance when he did say that. Your original post is uncompletely unsubstantiated and you still haven't defended it with ONE link, produce a link to him saying something "so many times" or STFU.

9/9/2009 10:10:56 PM

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You gotta love the Republicans on the board.

If Obama doesn't want to include Republicans, its a government takeover headed towards socialism.

If he does, then he is going back on his word, he must be untrustworthy.


Rofl.

Lock this shit up.

9/9/2009 10:15:24 PM

aaronburro
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9PIN03qGjg&feature=channel

29:24.
You can chose from the same plans that Congress has. Thank you, and good night

9/9/2009 10:36:44 PM

ShinAntonio
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"As one big group, these customers will have greater leverage to bargain with the insurance companies for better prices and quality coverage. This is how large companies and government employees get affordable insurance. It's how everyone in this Congress gets affordable insurance."

9/9/2009 10:40:19 PM

Shrike
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lol, this is hilarious. obama's speech was so good, all republicans can do is babble out retarded shit like this. i am pleased.

9/9/2009 10:43:32 PM

aaronburro
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this is hilarious. Obama can tell a bold-faced lie, and democrats will eat it up. It's wonderful.

Keep posting the same thing over and over, Shin. It might make a difference eventually. It won;t change the fact that Obama promised one thing and is giving us another

[Edited on September 9, 2009 at 10:46 PM. Reason : ]

9/9/2009 10:44:43 PM

Fry
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Quote :
""As one big group, these customers will have greater leverage to bargain with the insurance companies for better prices and quality coverage. This is how large companies and government employees get affordable insurance. It's how everyone in this Congress gets affordable insurance.""


!= you will have the same insurance plan as a Congress[wo]man

it implies that you will be able to attempt to use the same methods that Congress can use to get affordable insurance. it's much less of a guarantee than it looks like a lot of people think it is.

9/9/2009 10:50:06 PM

bcsawyer
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It's hilarious how people still believe Hopey McChange's lies.

9/9/2009 11:36:53 PM

Supplanter
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Couldn't have put this in the other health care threads?

9/2/2010 12:25:33 AM

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