this is the most pathetic thing I have seen since the loss to Akron. If he can't fucking figure out that a 5-yard cushion on EVERY FUCKING PLAY is NOT a good defensive scheme, then he needs to get the fuck out.

10/10/2009 6:42:54 PM

Your aliases were better trolls

10/10/2009 6:43:17 PM

there is no trolling. We should be down by fucking 4 touchdowns right now. FOUR FUCKING TOUCHDOWNS TO MOTHER FUCKING DUKE? it's absurd. two consecutive 3 and outs against a duke defense? a 30-yard punter ON A GOOD DAY? gtive me a break. hell, give me chuck. at least he had a punter

[Edited on October 10, 2009 at 6:45 PM. Reason : ]

10/10/2009 6:45:07 PM

we're only down 14

10/10/2009 6:46:30 PM

and we should be down 28. reading is fundamental.

10/10/2009 6:46:55 PM

Quote :

"We should be down by fucking 4 touchdowns right now."

But we're not?

You're either trolling or emotionally unstable or just fucking retarded

10/10/2009 6:47:10 PM

i hate to agree, i have not seen any improvement since TOB took over, save for QB. Without RW, we are a 2-9 team.

After RW, we have absolutely the worst fucking talent in the ACC.

10/10/2009 6:47:29 PM

but we're only down 14

reality is cool

10/10/2009 6:47:35 PM

yeah burro thats the thing to do fire a coach. When are you going to realize we are a bottom tier major sport school. We are never going to get the coach you want its not worth it to turn the program over again. We don't have any athletes on defense outside of Nate Irving (injured) and Willie Young, the rest of them wouldn't start for Football Championship Division school.

10/10/2009 6:47:58 PM

I think I prefer burro's reactionary bullshit to Wolfey's self-defeatist bullshit

10/10/2009 6:49:36 PM

they both make me want to stab myself in the temple with a screwdriver

10/10/2009 6:50:31 PM

Quote :

"We don't have any athletes on defense outside of Nate Irving (injured) and Willie Young, the rest of them wouldn't start for Football Championship Division school."

I don't think TOB should be fired, but who the fuck's fault do you think it is that we don't have any athletes?

10/10/2009 6:50:43 PM

TOB should hold open tryouts for ALL positions except QB and RB. I'm sure he can find someone on campus that can play harder and tackle someone on campus somewhere.

10/10/2009 6:51:46 PM

we're down 14. and we SHOULD be down 28, if it weren't for bad luck for duke. this is bullshit. I can't believe ANY of you are defending a 41yd second half against duke. DUKE.

MOTHER FUCKING DUKE

10/10/2009 6:51:55 PM

we may end up down by 4 touchdowns, there's still plenty of time

10/10/2009 6:52:02 PM

Quote :

"we SHOULD be down 28"

WHAT IF HURRICANE KATRINA SHOWED UP

THEN WE SHOULD BE UNDER WATER

[Edited on October 10, 2009 at 6:53 PM. Reason : ]

10/10/2009 6:52:24 PM

im sorry TOB apologists, but there is nothing you can say positive about today. Nothing.

There is no defending it, no justification, no silver lining.

Nothing can excuse giving up 40 + to duke, not even if the whole goddamn starting lineup has the fucking swine flu.

10/10/2009 6:52:52 PM

i am sorry that I am a realist but outside of North Carolina nobody gives a shit about NC State, we have 0 national recognition. Changing coaches isn't going to fix this. TOB has some good recruits lined up. No need to think we are ever going to be NT contender I would like to compete for an ACC title but doesn't look like that is going to happen anytime soon. Though we could turn it around this season just not this game. The bye week can't get here quick enough.

10/10/2009 6:52:54 PM

there's plenty of time for that. a couple more 3 and outs on our part, and we can pull it off

10/10/2009 6:52:57 PM

I don't know. This problem began emerging against Pitt. If it weren't for the fact that RW blew that game up single-handedly, we would have lost. A pathetic defensive performance against WF last week. And the same thing times 10 this week. None of the problems have been fixed. As head coach, you have to fix this shit. It's not being fixed and some heads need to fucking roll.

On the bright side, we don't have all the stupid penalties we've been getting the past couple weeks so kudos there but that's not saying a whole lot.

10/10/2009 6:53:13 PM

Quote :

"im sorry TOB apologists, but there is nothing you can say positive about today. Nothing. "

No shit

That doesn't mean we should fire him

10/10/2009 6:53:51 PM

and why should we keep a coach who can't figure out that a 5-yard cushion on every play doesn't count as defense?

10/10/2009 6:54:24 PM

didn't say we should fire him. Just that when and if we do, he can thank this game for being one of the primary reasons.

One more of these and, yes, he does have to go. You can't maintain your self respect if you accept losses like this consistently. You BECOME a school like duke.

10/10/2009 6:55:11 PM

message boards are so goddamn hilarious

10/10/2009 6:55:16 PM

definitely think firing is a terrible overreaction at this point still. no one on here is happy with how we are playing right now but i just dont think he has enough negatives against him here to fire him yet...jeebus.

emotional knee-jerks ftl

[Edited on October 10, 2009 at 6:56 PM. Reason : ]

10/10/2009 6:55:39 PM

well, goodlife, get in here and defend him. what, exactly, about being BLOWN OUT BY DUKE makes one a good coach? hmmm?

10/10/2009 6:56:02 PM

You really think he can't "figure that out"

I love when some internet fuck thinks he knows more than the head coach

Dude's nut hair has more football knowledge than either of us will ever have

10/10/2009 6:56:06 PM

I hope RW switches to baseball.

Then we can resume a Daniel Evans style offense with this defense.

We beat every team in NC last year, this year we will lose to all of them.

10/10/2009 6:56:42 PM

Attn Everyone:


The sky is falling.

10/10/2009 6:56:50 PM

well, he sure hasn't changed it. if he hasn't changed it, I would say he hasn't "figured it out." and my nut hairs even know that. hell, my non-existent dog's nut hairs know that

10/10/2009 6:57:02 PM

burro

You have to have been ohboyee

He isn't the greatest coach

He isn't the worst coach

There are more than two options

10/10/2009 6:57:12 PM

so, what about a 5-yard cushion on every play is good defense? what about getting blown out by duke at home is good coaching? I'm just curious.

10/10/2009 6:58:37 PM

It's not good defense, it's horrible defense

It's not good coaching, it's horrible coaching

10/10/2009 6:59:37 PM

and you think that is OK?
you think NOT MAKING A CHANGE FROM THAT is ok?

[Edited on October 10, 2009 at 7:00 PM. Reason : ]

10/10/2009 6:59:56 PM

No

[Edited on October 10, 2009 at 7:00 PM. Reason : I think jumping the gun and firing the guy is a horrible decision]

[Edited on October 10, 2009 at 7:01 PM. Reason : You do not, we disagree, l8r]

10/10/2009 7:00:33 PM

then why keep shit like that around

10/10/2009 7:01:04 PM

if it was appropriate to fire a coach after one case of his team shitting the bed, people like Jim Tressel would have been fired years ago

10/10/2009 7:01:13 PM

i'm glad to see that you support getting blown out by duke by never switching away from a 5-yard cushion

10/10/2009 7:04:17 PM

THAT SONUVA BITCH HASN'T TAUGHT THEM HOW TO LOOK OUT FOR FLUKE BOUNCES

HE MUST GO

ASAP

10/10/2009 7:11:09 PM

Was burro the faggot that threw the flag at Chuck

10/10/2009 7:12:23 PM

Duke did put up 360 passing yards on the #5 team in the nation... I would have hoped our coaches could have prepared a bit better.

I've heard the reason we play zone and give 5 yard cushions is because we don't have the talent on the defensive end. Might as well go back to man to man defense. What do we have to lose? The current strategy hasn't really proven anything.

10/10/2009 7:12:28 PM

the bounce didn't lose the game. continuing to play zone when it hasn't worked the entire year lost the game. to duke.

10/10/2009 7:13:24 PM

I know posted earlier in the thread, but afterwards I thought: "Why am I arguing with someone who thinks Obama is from Kenya?"

10/10/2009 7:15:56 PM

I thoght the same thing, but I didn't want to turn it into a soap box thread

10/10/2009 7:18:04 PM

tob is not the problem here...

10/10/2009 7:23:44 PM

Who is responsible then?

10/10/2009 7:25:24 PM

I KNOW WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST THING TO DO

GO THROW A FLAG AT TOB

THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!

10/10/2009 7:29:40 PM

^ hahaha

10/10/2009 7:30:06 PM

lol

10/10/2009 7:30:20 PM

More like go to tackle him, but miss.

10/10/2009 7:34:31 PM