[hypothetical]What would you do if you got this letter in the mail from your residential ISP, but knew for 100% fact the material never even touched your PC?

If the situation were more severe, as the account holder would I be completely liable?[/hypothetical]

10/10/2009 8:06:32 PM

If it came through your internet connection, you’re responsible, despite if it actually “touched your PC” or not.

10/10/2009 9:13:15 PM

Call a lawyer.

10/10/2009 9:16:33 PM

doubt they'll actually do shit about it.

but yea, lawyer.

10/10/2009 9:19:06 PM

Availability of MAC Addresses would stop at the once cached in their ARP table, obviously the router correct?

It's not serious enough to bring a lawyer in.

10/10/2009 10:18:12 PM

crap, they still do this?

10/11/2009 8:27:39 AM

Quote :

"Availability of MAC Addresses would stop at the once cached in their ARP table, obviously the router correct? "

Maybe it's just too early, but I've read that sentence 8 times, and I can't tell what you're trying to say.

10/11/2009 10:32:09 AM

Do nothing. A denial can be used against you later, and a confirmation damn would.

According to Ars Technica, the best course of action is to never return any letters, never hire a lawyer, never show up to court, and never speak to anyone that comes to your door. You will lose in court, but the average judgment for those that take this course of action is $750 per offense, a few grand per defendant. Meanwhile, the average judgment against those that bother to fight in any way is $80 thousand per offense, or several million per defendant, ignoring what you paid your lawyer.

Sorry, couldn't find the link. Maybe someone else has it.

[Edited on October 11, 2009 at 11:59 AM. Reason : .,.]

10/11/2009 11:59:30 AM

nvm, didn't follow what you were saying

[Edited on October 11, 2009 at 2:05 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2009 2:05:12 PM

^^^ Yeah, drugs and alcohol are bad -- I don't even know what I was trying to say.

I think I meant, the only identifiable MAC address that could be traced to the infringement would be "my" router's. Not any of the devices operating behind it.

10/11/2009 4:09:23 PM

Like moron said, that doesn't matter.

If it's your account, it's your responsibility to control who has access and how they use it.

10/11/2009 4:31:00 PM

TrueCrypt is your friend :-)

10/11/2009 8:16:21 PM

I don't do stupid shit, so it's irrelevant. It would have been another user on my network. And I'm not in trouble, I'm just annoyed and realize if someone decided to make an example out of the situation it could be a lot worse.

10/11/2009 9:47:29 PM

so what happens when you get one of these notices anyway?

10/11/2009 9:53:18 PM

Mine is the equivalent to the one ResNet sends out. Basically "Hey kid, we don't give a fuck what you do with your internet pipe, but you're *not* going to get us in trouble." -- "Stop this ASAP."

10/11/2009 10:28:59 PM