Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2009/11/09/microsoft-has-acquired-the-teamprise-client-suite.aspx
Holler For anyone that uses Eclipse for thei software development needs, this is a pretty big announcement. Pair this with a TFS Basic install and you can be up and running in 15 minutes 11/9/2009 4:59:08 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25073 Posts user info edit post |
i'm in love 11/9/2009 8:01:36 PM |
qntmfred retired 40818 Posts user info edit post |
what's this basic install that takes 15 minutes to set up? I tried to install TFS in a VM a few weeks ago and after three days I still couldn't get it to a usable state. Configuration was a nightmare. I got TFS itself installed, but it kept bitching about sharepoint and SSRS stuff
[Edited on November 9, 2009 at 8:32 PM. Reason : .] 11/9/2009 8:31:13 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25073 Posts user info edit post |
going to work on getting this setup this week
sharepoint and reporting services i have to imagine are both completely optional though - could you not disable both? 11/9/2009 8:59:35 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^^ What version? If you aren't installing 2010 Beta2, get it. I worked for over a year on the new configuration and administration experience
TFS Basic is the configuration option for Windows 7. It doesn't require a server OS, and has zero prerequisites. It installs SQL Server Express and IIS for you and does all the configuration. It does not include SharePoint or SSRS (as both require a server OS).
If you are trying to setup TFS 2010, did you use the Standard Configuration option?
^Yes they are both completely optional. 11/10/2009 3:33:44 AM |
qntmfred retired 40818 Posts user info edit post |
No I wasn't using 2010 but I'll give it a shot today. Nice timing on the thread too. I'm at devconnections this week and Dave Mendlen made a big deal about this partnership and now acquisition in the keynote
also, I would have gladly disabled sharepoint and ssrs but my work uses both, and I wanted to be able to play around with those features too and be able to show my coworkers how to take full advantage of the system. We basically use TFS for source control and work item tracking and that's it. I know it's supposed to be possible to track iteration velocity and bug kill rates and stuff and I hate that we're not utilizing those metrics
[Edited on November 10, 2009 at 9:00 AM. Reason : edit] 11/10/2009 8:51:13 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Go read this blog post:
http://blogs.msdn.com/bharry/archive/2009/10/01/tfs-2010-for-sourcesafe-users.aspx
It shows the ENTIRE configuration experience for TFS 2010 (the fact it fits in a blog post should tell you something right off the bat )
And after you get it installed, follow up with this pretty amazing post by Jason Zander: http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonz/archive/2009/10/21/tutorial-getting-started-with-tfs-in-vs2010.aspx 11/10/2009 8:14:41 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
bttt for qntmfred 11/17/2009 12:54:43 PM |
qntmfred retired 40818 Posts user info edit post |
i did install the TFS beta the other night. I haven't gotten a chance to install the Visual Studio beta yet though so i haven't verified that i can connect to the server or anything yet
the channel 9 video on installation on the vs2010 homepage only briefly mentioned the basic installation scenario. not having to pre-install sql server 2008 and all the other prereqs is definitely an attractive option. you obviously recognize the value in it, i'm surprised the documentation doesn't better advertise the option. also, the documentation says you can install on win2k8 sp2 or r2 but no mention of win7. you mentioned above that it doesn't require a server OS. I was able to install it fine in a Win7 VM.
when i mounted the iso it didn't do autoplay. i had to go to the x86 folder and guess between setup.exe and vs_setup.exe to start installation. not a huge deal, but it was something i noticed.
the first part of the installer just asked me if i wanted to install TFS and/or Build Service. I was looking for the Basic/Standard/Advanced options at this point and was a little worried it was going to try to install the whole thing.
after it installed .net 4.0, it sat on a "you must restart" prompt. since i was doing other stuff while it was installing, i probably wasted a few minutes, assuming it would continue until it was done.
after the restart, it picked back up where it left off and then when it was done the configuration wizard began, which is where the basic/standard/advanced part came in. in the readiness checks part of the wizard, instead of a Next button, there is a Configure button. which is the next step, it just wasn't immediately apparent what the Configure button was for.
overall, it took me a little over an hour to install TFS. not quite 15 minutes, but definitely a better experience than with 2008. 11/17/2009 4:44:35 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
So the "Basic" configuration option is relatively new and is specifically targeted to Windows clients.
With Basic, you get a zero-config install, but you lose out on SharePoint and Reporting.
The reason it's not mentioned in the documentation (or on channel 9) has a lot to do with it being a very late addition to Beta2. It should be much more clear in the RTM documentation and release information (though I will be following up on it to make sure )
The autoplay/setup/vs_setup issue is definitely one I will pass on. Very small thing that would make a nice impression.
Very interesting observation about expecting to choose the configuration option up front, thanks!
The .NET4.0 restart issue is common for all of VS. I can only hope that the restart requirement will go away with the RTM release. It's a definite pain in the butt.
Glad you got it installed though 11/17/2009 9:33:54 PM |
qntmfred retired 40818 Posts user info edit post |
did the full TFS install in a win2k8 R2 VM tonight, it was just as easy as the basic install. probably took about 2 hours in between doing other stuff, but this is a godsend compared to when i tried to set up 2008
http://blogs.msdn.com/willy-peter_schaub/archive/2009/10/22/team-foundation-server-2010-beta-2-installation-who-do-we-hug.aspx
[Edited on November 28, 2009 at 12:10 AM. Reason : seriously, everybody i talk to is amazed at the install/config experience improvements] 11/28/2009 12:06:59 AM |