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TreeTwista10
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Ok obviously nobody would have this issue if they didn't occasionally download a copyrighted movie, but hypothetically speaking:

What type of things do Time Warner filters look for when knocking you offline for downloading torrents?

Is it just certain trackers from sites that have been busted, ie thepiratebay and mininova? Or does it have something to do with the amount of number of connections or bandwidth used? Maybe monitoring bandwidth strictly for P2P stuff? Anyone know?

11/27/2009 10:36:28 PM

God
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I've never heard of Time Warner doing this. I download stuff off TPB all the time, and I've never been "kicked off" for anything.

11/27/2009 11:56:21 PM

TreeTwista10
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I usually use Isohunt to DL movies...I have Road Runner Turbo

Only once have I woke up and refreshed my browser and actually seen a Time Warner page telling me not to do it, but I had issues this evening DLing a few flicks on both my TWC connection as well as a Sprint wireless card. With TWC the connection would be lost and I'd have to reset my cable modem and wireless router. With the wireless card, it would just cause uTorrent to be unresponsive all the time and I'd have to end the process.

I saw something through a google search recently that said that TWC had added some fake trackers but that sounded more like they were doing it for bandwidth/$ reasons

I dunno, and I can't blame them, but I'd be interested to know how to get around it

11/28/2009 12:00:07 AM

God
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Do you use a router with a firewall?

11/28/2009 12:02:34 AM

TreeTwista10
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At home I just use the builtin Windows firewall, and no specific wireless NAT filters or settings...I obviously have Spyware and Anti-Virus apps though.

But I never had this issue until like a month ago, I wonder if they're stepping up security in certain cities?

I'm sure a proxy server would help, but most of the ones I've found decrease my DL speed by about 10x

11/28/2009 12:10:46 AM

God
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I'm not an expert on networking, but I have a Linksys router between my computer and my cable modem. I'm not sure if that makes a difference.

11/28/2009 12:21:35 AM

ScHpEnXeL
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it doesn't

11/28/2009 12:33:09 AM

God
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Maybe it's unique to his housing community?

11/28/2009 12:50:34 AM

TreeTwista10
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or the city of Charlotte

I just ran a test from http://broadband.mpi-sws.org/transparency/bttest-mlab.php and everything was good but its like TWC has something else going on because everything isn't good

11/28/2009 12:56:12 AM

bbehe
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Remember kids, all torrents are inherently illegal. There are no legal torrents.

11/28/2009 6:18:42 AM

mellocj
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^ thanks for reminding us you can download your favorite linux distro iso images via torrent

11/28/2009 11:57:32 AM

GenghisJohn
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^^ are you retarded?

11/28/2009 12:05:53 PM

bbehe
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Yes, 100% serious.

11/28/2009 12:24:27 PM

Needz
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Just force encrypted connections. If you're still paranoid you can download and run PeerGuardian.

12/2/2009 8:09:39 PM

jchill2
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Peerblock

12/2/2009 8:24:24 PM

TreeTwista10
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^,^^cool i'll look into it

12/2/2009 8:25:24 PM

ScHpEnXeL
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yea i've been using it lately

12/2/2009 8:31:20 PM

Shaggy
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fyi neither of those do shit.

Encryption might work if they are using protocol based blocking, but if they are blocking based on tracker its going to be real obvious what you're doing. Also, even though they cant see what traffic you're sending, its really obvious when you have 100 connections open to random ips in other dynamic ranges.

My guess is that the MPAA or someone scrapped the tracker and then reported all the IPs to their respective ISPs. RR then figures out you owned one of the IPs at the time of the lease and sends you a notice.

Nothing you can do will protect against the MPAA grabbing your info from a tracker. The rule of thumb for p2p is that if you can get to it, so can they.

12/2/2009 8:35:56 PM

skokiaan
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First of all, google this shit for details. Second, they do it by send you a packet that causes you to disconnect all the time from peers. You could theoretically tell your computer to ignore the packets, but it has bad side effects for your other internet shit. Lastly, they only do it during peak times.

12/2/2009 8:41:51 PM

evan
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what have we learned today, children?

only stupid people use public trackers.

12/2/2009 9:05:09 PM

Shaggy
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even private trackers aren't immune to anything. If you can get to it, so can anyone else. Thats the whole point to p2p. Private sites are just slight more of a hassle to get to than the major public ones. Once the public trackers are all killed off they'll start in on the private ones.

Stuff like peerguardian is just hilarious though.

12/2/2009 11:29:04 PM

evan
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^duh.

p.s. they will never be done "killing off" public trackers... new ones spring up all the time. they all like going after the low hanging fruit...

12/3/2009 12:50:11 AM

Grandmaster
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SSL + Usenet.

12/3/2009 3:50:05 PM

boader
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^^ Public trackers will be gone soon

TWC does packet shaping on p2p data just encrypted both incoming and outgoing data
also run peerblock to help filter out bad ip ranges

12/3/2009 8:39:09 PM

ThatGoodLock
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i just dont use it during peak hours if you can compromise that way...use utorrents built in scheduler and theres always something to wake up to

12/3/2009 11:06:27 PM

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