The decade is about over. Who were the best players? Who was the best team? Who was the best coach?

First Team
Guard - Jason Kidd
Guard - Kobe Bryant
Forward - Dirk Nowitzki
Forward - Kevin Garnett
Center - Tim Duncan

Second Team
Guard - Steve Nash
Guard - Dwyane Wade
Forward - LeBron James
Forward - Paul Pierce
Center - Yao Ming

Coach - Greg Popovich (Phil Jackson a close second)

Team - Lakers (Spurs a close second)

Overall player of decade - Tim Duncan (Kobe Bryant a close second)

11/29/2009 2:32:43 PM

didn't nash win two mvps? i don't see how you can keep him off the first team

11/29/2009 2:38:46 PM

because Kidd was better than Nash

Nash was greatly aided by rule changes, or at least a change in the interpretations of rules, that tolerated much less physical contact

[Edited on November 29, 2009 at 3:12 PM. Reason : ...]

11/29/2009 3:08:36 PM

yao over shaq?

I don't like shaq but come on

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11/29/2009 4:09:38 PM

My thoughts exactly.

Shaq does have 4 championships this decade (3 if you don't count the 99-00 season).

11/29/2009 4:12:24 PM

The truly dominant Shaq was done by 04-05. If you want to do a Best of the 90s then Shaq would easily make Second Team.

Yao was the best offensive center of the decade, other than Duncan.

11/29/2009 4:21:55 PM

so what he did for half the decade doesnt count?

11/29/2009 4:24:31 PM

isn't duncan almost exclusively a power forward?

11/29/2009 4:35:16 PM

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"The truly dominant Shaq was done by 04-05."

The truly dominant Yao breaks his foot every year and misses 40 games. How the fuck has he earned this over the Big Aristotle?

11/29/2009 4:40:28 PM

shaq>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>yao....i hate the nba and only follow it off and on during season and a bit more during playoffs, but from what i saw shaq won more/played more/scored more/defended more/did everything more than yao.

11/29/2009 4:41:07 PM

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"isn't duncan almost exclusively a power forward?"

he's almost always labeled a forward, but he's mostly been a center

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"so what he did for half the decade doesnt count?"

It does count. I'm not denigrating Shaq, I'm just saying I'd take Yao over him when considering the past decade.

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"i hate the nba and only follow it off and on during season and a bit more during playoffs"

Then who gives a fuck about your opinion.


[Edited on November 29, 2009 at 4:55 PM. Reason : ...]

11/29/2009 4:53:25 PM

prob about the same amount who give a fuck about your dumbass opinion

you are mentally retarded if you think yao was better than shaq this decade


[Edited on November 29, 2009 at 5:06 PM. Reason : but you are prob another one of these ST trolls who jack off to any kind of attention you get]

11/29/2009 5:05:12 PM

you sir are about as smart as a bag of hammers.

if you want to do this just by offense production shaq averaged 20.9 ppg during the '00. Yao on the other hand has averaged 19.757 per game. That's not counting the seasons that he did not play. If we average in those seasons as zeros (which they should be if we are talking about who is the best for the decade) his average is 12.57.

Also there is no way that Kidd is better than Nash

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"Then who gives a fuck about your opinion."

this is a message board, no one gives a fuck about anyone's opinion

11/29/2009 5:46:48 PM

Tim Duncan is not a center. Nash has been much better than Kidd

thread=fail

and i am not better than Shaq

[Edited on November 29, 2009 at 6:16 PM. Reason : .]

11/29/2009 6:15:49 PM

Here's the real list

First Team
Guard - Steve Nash
Guard - Kobe Bryant
Forward - Kevin Garnett
Forward - Tim Duncan
Center - Shaq

Second Team
Guard - Jason Kidd
Guard - Dwyane Wade
Forward - LeBron James
Forward - Dirk Nowitzki
Center - Yao Ming

11/29/2009 6:18:28 PM

You could argue that Kidd was better than Nash in the sense that Kidd played in a couple NBA Finals...of course you have to factor in that the Nets came out of the East, which at that time was a weaker conference...and that Phoenix got hosed in that one series versus the Spurs

But Shaq > Yao

11/29/2009 6:56:27 PM

yea I don't really mind the kidd over nash, in fact I might agree with that one

11/29/2009 8:22:36 PM

I agree with AndyMac's list

11/29/2009 8:29:34 PM

Duncan, KG, and Kobe are no-brainers. Shaq is close to a no brainer.

LeBron deserves to make first team over Kidd and Nash, but if you want a true PG I would go with Kidd since he plays defense.

11/29/2009 8:45:09 PM

Some guy named Allen Iverson feels left out.

He just broke Jordan's ankles and then jumped over Nash and dunked it.

Also Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter were pissed, but then they figured hey, I'm getting my paycheck so who cares.

Finally, the entire Pistons team of the 00s just did the Dragonball fusion dance and demanded honorable mention for best team.

11/29/2009 8:51:42 PM

Kidd was obviously better than Nash for the decade it's just silly to argue otherwise.

Nash won MVP's because it was cute to vote for a white guy. He's great to watch but the guy gives up easy baskets on defense and his numbers were unbelievably inflated by the system. He likely wasn't a top ten player in the league for either of his MVP's.

Nash on 2nd team is fine, but Kidd clearly better especially in the first half of the decade when Nash was just average.

Shaq over Yao is a no-brainer he dominated the first half of the decade and was productive for the second half. Yao was a defensive liability for most of the decade and hasn't even won a playoff series. This was a bad argument. I'd move Duncan over to PF, Shaq to first team center and slip Dirk off the first team since it's absurd to put him over Lebron anyway. Pierce falls off the 2nd team of course.


Duncan has won championships with David Robinson at Center, Nazr Mohammed at Center, and Oberto? (not sure about that one).... He's a PF based on the criteria here.

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 12:16 AM. Reason : a]

11/30/2009 12:15:16 AM

we talkin bout practice is a top 10 player of the decade

fuck d-wade's title, or nash's mvps

take your pick

11/30/2009 12:16:08 AM

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"Also Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter were pissed, but then they figured hey, I sprain my pussy ten times a year so who cares."

11/30/2009 1:33:09 AM

id go phil jackson over greg all day everyday

11/30/2009 1:42:20 AM

PG: Nash
SG: Kobe
SF: Lebron
PF: Duncan
C: Shaq

PG: Kidd
SG: Wade
SF: McGrady
PF: KG
C : Yao

Honorable mention to Dirk and AI

11/30/2009 10:49:32 AM

1st Team
PG: Jason Kidd - Better all around player
SG: Kobe Bryant - It's fucking Kobe
F: LeBron James - It's fucking LeBron
F: Kevin Garnett - Garnett did more with less players than Duncan and was extremely consistent, but it was close
C: Shaq - No one was more dominant

2nd Team
PG: Steve Nash - Hard to argue with two MVPs not making the top 10 list
SG: Allen Iverson - Great player, off-court image gets in the way
F: Paul Pierce - Really consistent player. Great scorer. Great competitor
F: Dirk Nowitzki - Really consistent over the whole decade
C: Tim Duncan - Got bumped to center because he can play there and to make room for Pierce

Honorable Mention - Chris Paul, Chauncey Billups, Dwayne Wade

11/30/2009 12:57:44 PM

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"the entire Pistons team of the 00s just did the Dragonball fusion dance"

haha

11/30/2009 2:18:41 PM

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"Kevin Garnett - Garnett did more with less players than Duncan and was extremely consistent, but it was close"

Duncan was the centerpiece for 3 championship squads (different supporting casts) not to mention the one in 1999. The Spurs were the dynasty of the 2000s.

You can't leave Shaq or Duncan off of the first team, because they were the foundation of 7 championship teams between them (even if Parker and Wade got one finals MVP). The rest of the team has to be built around them.

11/30/2009 2:25:09 PM

Let me just let this guy make the argument... and I have to say it's very close. But it's a very compelling argument. Just look at the supporting casts Garnett had...

http://pecsports.blogspot.com/2007/08/on-best-100-nba-players-of-2000s.html

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"2. The system rewards peak performance, and Garnett’s peak is the highest of the decade. KG used to win a lot of games with a minimal supporting cast. Consider that Minnesota won 58 games with Trenton Hassell, Fred Hoiberg and Mark Madsen in key roles. Or, better yet, they won 51 games the year before with Troy Hudson as the second best player on the team. 3. Durability played a role. Not that Duncan isn’t reliable, but Garnett averaged more than 80 games a season over the eight years, including six straight of 81 or more."

And look at how many games he averaged. he was extremely durable the entire decade. Averaging over 80 games a season for eight seasons in a row is extremely impressive for any player at any position, much less a big man. I mean, that stat right there is in my opinion.

[Edited on November 30, 2009 at 10:36 PM. Reason : and]

11/30/2009 10:34:01 PM