Overtime- Would be conducted in a manner similar to college or instant death OT has to be won via TouchDown. A game should be won purely by skill not the flip of a coin. Statistical evidence has shown the team winning the coinflip overwhelmingly wins the game .599 versus the expected odds if each team were given a possession 50%

. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/30/sports/football/30mailbox.ready.html?oref=login

Rules about hitting the QB- No more pussy slides of "don't hurt me" to prevent being tackled. If a defender is obviously being carried via momentum into the QB right after the ball is flown it is not roughing the passer.

Falsestart- Would be desensitized at the least. I am tired of having the game stopped b.c a o-lineman flinched or decided to pick a booger. At the extreme I wonder how football would be with the rule completely removed.

Safety- As difficult and rare safeties occur I think they should be worth like 4 or 5 points.

Challenges- If a challenge is successful; a team should get to keep the challenge. In contrast to the current rules that state a team has to get both right. If an official is wrong he's wrong and the call should be reversed. Understandable is the "2" challenge rule to prevent abuse. Lets pretend though officials make 3 bad incorrect calls. The first one gets reversed. The second lacks indisputable video evidence and stands. The team should not get punished for the 3rd incorrect call.

Playclock- Shorten the play clock to 25 seconds. Given that the average game only has 12 minutes of actual action; I find this a good way to increase the plays in the game. As an added bonus this rule would decrease the situations where a team up by 1 point just sits around with their thumbs up the ass, just running down the last 1 min 30 seconds of clock.

[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 7:45 PM. Reason : l]

12/6/2009 7:42:17 PM

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"Rules about hitting the QB- No more pussy slides of "don't hurt me" to prevent being tackled. If a defender is obviously being carried via momentum into the QB right after the ball is flown it is not roughing the passer."

+1000000000000000000000000000

The overtime, i don't have a huge problem with because its the price you pay for not winning in regulation. It would be cool to see like a full 7 minute period though

12/6/2009 7:44:00 PM

without false star you would have to redefine when the play starts. it would also essentially turn into the offense pumpfaking the defense to sleep and winning the los on every play.

12/6/2009 7:45:18 PM

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"The overtime, i don't have a huge problem with because its the price you pay for not winning in regulation. It would be cool to see like a full 7 minute period though"

A coin flip should not be the defining factor of winning the game. I think a "instant death" could be cool if you just were required to reach the endzone.

[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 7:47 PM. Reason : l]

12/6/2009 7:46:13 PM

False Start? stupid.

And yeah. OT should be like college but from the 45 or so.

12/6/2009 7:47:12 PM

get rid of the Roony rule...

12/6/2009 7:47:56 PM

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"No more pussy slides of "don't hurt me" to prevent being tackled."

You want a rule that prevents a player from being down?

12/6/2009 7:48:04 PM

an entire 59% of the time!? what are they thinking?

what's the stat on the team that gets to call defense in college football first winning? there's benefits to everything, sorry if that 9% means you lost, you weren't really good enough to win in regular time so who the fuck cares

12/6/2009 7:51:29 PM

^^ Yeah i don't get his objection to that. Any player can slide, it's just that QB's do it most often because they are more valuable (plus they usually suck at running with the ball and so get hurt/fumble more often).

[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 7:54 PM. Reason : []_[]

12/6/2009 7:52:48 PM

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"The overtime, i don't have a huge problem with because its the price you pay for not winning in regulation. It would be cool to see like a full 7 minute period though A coin flip should not be the defining factor of winning the game. I think a "instant death" could be cool if you just were required to reach the endzone."

I like the idea of the first team to 6 wins. If you kick a field goal you have to stop the other team from scoring a touchdown, but giving up a field goal to start doesn't end the game for you.

[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 7:59 PM. Reason : quotes]

12/6/2009 7:55:32 PM

Oh snap it's HUR

I figure he'd support rules banning colored folks from playing the game

12/6/2009 7:55:39 PM

negative

12/6/2009 7:59:03 PM

i agree with overtime but you have to protect the QB

i hate the treatment Brady gets but it must be so

it hurts a franchise too much when the star QB goes down and like I heard on the radio - NFL ratings go down as well

12/6/2009 8:13:43 PM

I guess its not really an in the game rule but i wish some court would find the NFL Network's Thursday night game as violating anti-monopoly laws

12/6/2009 8:17:56 PM

^ They already play it on broadcast TV in the local markets.

12/6/2009 8:21:01 PM

LOL WAT @ this entire thread



basically HUR doesn't want it to be football anymore


have you ever even watched football?


not allowed to down the ball by sliding? not setting the line and giving both offense and defense a chance to get to the ball fairly? a 4 point safety... why? they aren't THAT rare.


and the biggest dumbass statement: 25 second playclock? LOL WAT. THIS ISNT THE NBA.

[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 8:23 PM. Reason : the reason most of these rules exist is to protect players from serious harm]

12/6/2009 8:22:46 PM

I think the ot rule should be first to six or whoever is winning at the end of 15 minutes. There should defenitely be a 15 minute cap.

All the rest are retarded

12/6/2009 8:28:53 PM

I like the way that NFL overtime works as it is, although I wouldn't mind a rule change that you have to get 4 points to win.

12/6/2009 8:32:01 PM

Touchbacks- Players should have to attempt to run the ball back. If they don't touch it or give up in the end zone the ball should start on the 5 yard line. If the booming kick goes out of bounds though then putting it at the 20 yard line is fine.

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"have you ever even watched football?"

STFU faggot. Yeah i so have never seen football before and just made this thread to spread my ignorance [/sarcasm]. I was just stating my opinion. If you want to provide commentary or insight on why rules are the way they are then I'll enjoy your explanation/reason/history lesson. No reason to be a complete asshat douchenozzle though.

[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 8:37 PM. Reason : l]

[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM. Reason : l]

12/6/2009 8:35:03 PM

theres a reason the XFL didnt last

because of stupid ass gimmicks

12/6/2009 8:38:14 PM

You want more plays per game in a sport whose very existence is threatened by health risks due to linemen destroying each other on every play?

12/6/2009 8:40:37 PM

theres a reason the XFL didnt last

because of stupid ass gimmicks Vince McMahon

12/6/2009 8:41:16 PM

I'd like to see them change it to a 50 yard field and get rid of pads and helmets

12/6/2009 8:42:39 PM

Yeah, because everyone knows Vince McMahon is a terrible owner and doesn't know what he's doing.

12/6/2009 8:42:52 PM

first of all, I believe he's saying you can't slide to avoid getting hit... he wants you to still get striped regardless of if you slide or not, and he thinks qbs should still beable to get popped after they've thrown the ball...


while I dont agree, he's not saying they're no longer allowed to slide period...


and

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"an entire 59% of the time!? what are they thinking? "

The stat is that 59% of the time the team that loses the coin toss never even -SEES- the ball. 60% of the time you automatically lose just by randomly guessing the flip wrong.


pretty compelling stat that indicates that the overtime rule is pretty gay to me.

12/6/2009 8:45:22 PM

Quote :

"STFU faggot. Yeah i so have never seen football before and just made this thread to spread my ignorance [/sarcasm]. I was just stating my opinion. If you want to provide commentary or insight on why rules are the way they are then I'll enjoy your explanation/reason/history lesson. No reason to be a complete asshat douchenozzle though."

Quote :

"theres a reason the XFL didnt last because of stupid ass gimmicks"

12/6/2009 8:51:26 PM

I have absolutely no problem with the NFL overtime system. I think it encompasses more of football than the college system, which completely changes up the rules. At the same time, I LIKE the college system, but I also like the fact that there is a little variety between the NCAA and NFL.

I think the NFL stays a little more true to the game. They basically say "ok nobody is ahead after 60 minutes, we'll play 15 more, same fucking rules, except its sudden death". That way, its not just offense, defense and a fraction of special teams, like college, but its offense, defense, and special teams.

The only change for overtime that I would support in the NFL is if they proposed instead of sudden death, to just add one additional quarter. In that sense it would just be like the score was tied at the end of the 3rd and they play one more quarter. You could strategize clock management just like you would in the 4th, as opposed to playing for a field goal. They could simply extend the game to 75 minutes.

12/6/2009 8:53:15 PM

/thread derail

I think referees need to remember how to do their job and get in place to make right calls. I haven't ever seen so many challenges than I did today.

12/6/2009 8:54:11 PM

^Yeah it might help if they didn't have a bunch of 70 year old dudes out there. They need to up the refs salaries a little bit and hire some out of work football players with 20/20 vision and 4.6 40 speed

12/6/2009 8:55:13 PM

make overtime be a first to 7 points thing

12/6/2009 9:09:37 PM

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"the reason most of these rules exist is to protect players from serious harm"

Why is this not a concern in other full contact sports like rugby???


[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 9:17 PM. Reason : l]

12/6/2009 9:13:42 PM

decrease the length and number of tv timeouts so I don't have to watch luke wilson as often.

12/6/2009 9:15:06 PM

^ agreed

12/6/2009 9:16:06 PM

seconded

12/6/2009 9:24:00 PM

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"Why is this not a concern in other full contact sports like rugby???"

Rugby players don't hit each other as hard.

12/6/2009 9:27:42 PM

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"60% of the time you automatically lose just by randomly guessing the flip wrong. "

or maybe 60% of the time you lose because your defense wasn't good enough

12/6/2009 9:30:44 PM

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"Why is this not a concern in other full contact sports like rugby???"

I dunno how lucrative rugby is...but lets be honest. In the NFL, it is ALL about the money and if you lose your name brand QB you are going to lose a lot of money. Imagine if a player like Peyton Manning had a career ending injury. The Colts franchise would miss out on an enormous amount of money b/c people will come to games just to watch him play, and people will buy jerseys just b/c they have his name on it. That sort of thing is why they protect them so much.

12/6/2009 9:32:56 PM

i guess their defense should get the L in the column then

12/6/2009 9:33:05 PM

The false start suggestion in the OP was absolutely retarded.


Regarding OT, I agree that it makes it more like real football, but I think if you make it to overtime, each team should have an equal shot to win. They could just play for an equal number of posessions. So if you score on your first posession, you have to kick off and the other team gets a chance to tie or win depending on whether a TD or fg was scored. Or if one team has 2 posessions and the other team has had 1, scoring team has to kick off and prevent other team from scoring. It would get confusing for retarded fans who can't count posessions, but its at least fair.

12/6/2009 9:45:44 PM

I don't really dislike the whole score first mentality in overtime anymore, but just change it to a touchdown, not a fucking field goal

12/6/2009 9:47:52 PM

My head hurts from reading some of this.

Overtime - Keep it the same except that each team should get the ball once. So if you win the coin flip score, you kick to the other team they don't score game over. If you get the ball to start, punt, the other team gets the ball it is just sudden death at that point. A college system will never be in place because the potential for the games to go an extra 30 minutes and TV won't let that happen.

Hitting the QB - As much as I hate the way they do protect the QB, I'm not trying to spend my afternoons watching Dennis Dixon vs. Kevin Kolb. There are so few quality QBs in the league as it is, and they are so important to the quality of the product they need to be protected in some way. They still take plenty of hits.

Falsestart - wtf? So you just want players shifting moving doing whatever they want? The offense gets enough advantages as it is, the least you can ask of them is to get set.

Safety - 2 points and the ball in great field position seems fine to me.

Challenges - You complain that falsestart penalties are slowing the game down, yet you want coaches to have an infinite number of challenges? They get 2, use them wisely, and potentially 3. The setup now is fine, it keeps it from being overused in non important game situations.

12/6/2009 9:50:23 PM

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"The false start suggestion in the OP was absolutely retarded."

Ok we'll keep false start penalties. Who though does not agree though often they are overly sensitive to this call. It is one thing if the O-Lineman blatantly moves or lunges pre-snap. On the other hand if they are in the meadowlands and a strong gust makes the Right tackle have to move his hand 1/2'' to regain balance or he twitches cut them a break.

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"yet you want coaches to have an infinite number of challenges? "

An incorrect call is an incorrect call. The 2 challenges thing is fine as a safeguard to prevent abuse but if a shitty ref has his head in his ass, a team should be able to challenge the call even if they get their two and the bonus challenge correct.

[Edited on December 6, 2009 at 9:55 PM. Reason : k]

12/6/2009 9:52:15 PM

A false start wouldn't be called for either of those dumb shit examples

12/6/2009 9:53:16 PM

Perhaps not but i see way to many false start calls when at least from the TV angle i do not always see an obvious blatant movement.

12/6/2009 9:56:15 PM

Bad calls happen, 2-3 reviews is plenty it isn't suppose to be there to review every spot of the ball and every little missed call throughout the game.

Again, you have 2 examples where the game moves to slow for you(don't want false start penalties and a 25 second clock but want there to be unlimited reviews)?

Your version of the NFL would suck.

12/6/2009 9:59:10 PM

Whoever was talking about playing to 6 in overtime...I think I actually like that idea. Forces team to score a touchdown or still have to stop the opposing team.

12/6/2009 10:52:44 PM

if they are tied, put 10 mins on the clock

if they are still tied, give each team the ball on the 30

if they are still tied, give each team the ball on the 35

if they are still tied, give each team the ball on the 40 and you have to go for 2

if they are still tied, give each team the ball on the 45 and you have to go for 2

if they are still tied, give each team the ball on the 50 and you have to score a TD, not a FG, and go for 2

if they are still tied, start doing kickoff returns back and forth until one team runs it in

12/6/2009 11:01:15 PM

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"Falsestart- Would be desensitized at the least. I am tired of having the game stopped b.c a o-lineman flinched or decided to pick a booger. At the extreme I wonder how football would be with the rule completely removed."

lol dumbest idea ever

12/6/2009 11:02:04 PM

1. how much do you know about rugby? I'm willing to bet "not much"

2. based off of #1, you shouldn't bring a sport you neither 1 follow nor 2 understand into the discussion. there are PLENTY of rules in rugby that exist to protect players. Just like there are rules in soccer, basketball, hockey, baseball, tiddlywinks, rock paper scissors.....

12/6/2009 11:03:46 PM

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"lol dumbest idea ever"

maybe it was extreme to say get rid of the rule but on the mild side whats the problem. From my opinion i yawn at the fifty billion false start penalties that occur every game. If an olineman is jumping up and down or making crazy arm movements sure throw the flag. Just asserting that the refs should lay off a little though i do not see as such an absurd idea.

^ blah blah blah if only i could be just like you the Mr. Know if All of all sporting rules, regulations, and history.

12/6/2009 11:09:49 PM