A pipe dream, to be sure, but a fun one to think about

tl;dr for the fags amongst you, I'm sure



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12/11/2009 9:43:19 AM

NFL


The advantages to the NFL of adopting a promotion/relegation system are that it providesa way for expanding into Canadian and European markets that are already proven without putting a full blown NFL franchise there. Likewise, the CFL, which tried unsuccessfully to enter the U.S. in the mid-1990s, probably would jump at the chance to become a Division 1 to the NFL's "Premier" status.

The disadvantage of this plan to the NFL is that it would lose the high expansion fees that come directly from the owners of the expansion teams...I believe Bob Mcnair payed something like $800 million for the Texans. The NFL could protect key markets like LA and San Antonio. The 32 team system would probably be in place for a while, but eventually they'll look to expand. The NFL is so popular that it can thrive in cities where other sports couldn't; the experiences of the Jacksonville and Carolina expansion teams and the relocation of the Houston Oilers to Nashville indicate that NFL teams can be financially viable in a large number of cities. As a result, the NFL has more plausible expansion cities remaining in the United States than any other sport; however, the loss of these expansion fees, due in part to the fact that expansion can not be much faster than two teams every several years, would be partially offset by the enhanced value of the CFL and UFL "minor leagues"

Because the worst NFL teams remain financially strong and because the opportunity for a second type of championship is less attractive, shrinking the size of the major-major league is not attractive in football. The better model for the NFL probably is to create promotion/relegation deals with the two existing leagues.

12/11/2009 9:47:45 AM

MLB


In 2001, baseball announced a plan to disband at least two and maybe more franchises asits solution to revenue disparities in the sport. Minnesota and Montreal were realistically being considered to cease all operations and have their players allocated to the remaining clubs. This was motivated primarily by the desire to stop sharing local revenues with low-revenue teams. Moving to a hierarchy of leagues with promotion and relegation achieves the same objective without eliminating teams. A structure of two eight-team leagues at both the major-major and minor-major level, each with two divisions, would enable baseball to return to a better balanced schedule: 16 games against each opponent in the same division, 12 games against each team in the other division of the same league, and 8 games against each team in the other league, for a total of 160 games. The League Championship series would be against the division winners of the higher leagues, followed by the World Series.

The loss of the first-round of the playoffs could be replaced by a tournament resembling the FA cup in England, in which teams in both major-major and minor-major leagues play in a single-elimination tournament with matches based upon a random draw, rather than seeding. This tournament could be scheduled by creating a one-week hiatus in the regular season schedule during the summer, before the All-Star game. To create an incentive to win, revenues from the broadcast rights to these games could be divided unequally so that teams and players receive a significant financial bonus for winning each game.

12/11/2009 9:49:28 AM

It's not really fun to think about with MLB considering the minor leagues are entities owned my the parent organization. It's set up completely different in soccer around the world. Those smaller clubs are separately owned entities. Their "farm system" is the reserve and youth clubs and even the small clubs have those.

12/11/2009 9:51:09 AM

^yes, the whole financial structure would have to completely changed, which is one the major obstacles and why this system would never work here



NBAand NHL

Both basketball and hockey provide interesting (if still not very plausible) possibilities. Favoring a promotion and relegation system are the fact that both basketball and hockey have expanded about as far as is plausible, and have several franchises that play in weak markets and/or field persistently weak teams, so they have little to lose by experimenting with promotion/relegation. Financially, it might make sense for teams bleeding money like the Bobcats and Coyotes to "tank" to get a to a lower level for a few seasons while they got their finances in order.

As in baseball, a smaller league would enable basketball to create a second championship, patterned after the NCAA basketball tournament (but without seeding) as a series of single elimination games over a week in the middle of the season. Both the draw for matches and the location of the games (which would be the home team) would be determined randomly, to give a small advantage to some weaker teams. As with baseball and NCAA basketball, the television proceeds for the tournament could be allocated on the basis of games won, rather than shared equally, to create an incentive to take the tournament seriously.







Anybody think any of this is viable ? I would love for a late season Clippers/Grizzlies game to be played for the right to stay in the NBA...that would make tanking obsolete.

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12/11/2009 9:51:21 AM

See

It's this sort of thing that makes me think you full of shit

No way anyone with a real job has time to make this thread

You're a damn receptionist aren't you

12/11/2009 10:05:05 AM

Corporate accounts payable, Slave speaking... JUST a moment

12/11/2009 10:08:53 AM

no.. he just copies and pastes stuff other people have written on the internet. he plagiarizes... for internet message boards.

http://web.econ.ohio-state.edu/~tan/E583/noll.pdf


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12/11/2009 10:09:26 AM

Its the best of both worlds

I'm just surprised its taken you this long

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12/11/2009 10:10:32 AM

Yeah, my next point was that his spiel was well written but all black people are semi-illiterate

VINDICATION

12/11/2009 10:11:48 AM

The tell is that I use heavy profanity is most of my posts

So when I post something thats devoid of fucks and shits, its probably not mine

12/11/2009 10:13:04 AM

I thought everybody knew that when you plagiarize something from the internet you have to change every fourth word or so in the sentence so that it can't be easily googled.

12/11/2009 10:13:41 AM

Thats only with term papers

For TWW, theres really no incentive to do that

12/11/2009 10:15:26 AM

Hey Ryan, had a chance to upload those Citi Field pictures yet?

12/11/2009 10:17:51 AM

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=citi+field

Just pick some, Slaver

12/11/2009 10:20:19 AM

uh, my friend borrowed my camera and I haven't gotten in back yet

They'll be up any day now, I swear

12/11/2009 10:33:49 AM

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