GO SEE IT.

12/12/2009 12:54:40 AM

THIS IS OWWAHH DESTINY.

12/12/2009 12:55:46 AM

Just saw it tonight with SandSanta...shit was awesome

12/12/2009 1:21:24 AM

Looks pretty interesting, I might give it a look see

12/12/2009 2:22:44 AM

Looks awful

12/12/2009 7:39:05 PM

too urban for my liking

12/12/2009 7:57:53 PM

^^I don't expect many to like it in the United States. Its about two things Americans don't know about or understand. Rugby and another nations politics.

12/12/2009 9:07:01 PM

I plan to see it.

12/12/2009 9:23:34 PM

going to see it tomorrow.
My team went yesterday to see it and wore jerseys...

12/13/2009 12:26:37 AM

coppertop, what's the name of your league?

12/13/2009 1:31:21 AM

I just watched it, I liked everything I was awake to see. I've been so tired lately though, I couldn't help but to nap a little bit during the movie.

12/13/2009 1:34:02 AM

saw it on opening night. Awesome movie. I'm not normally a fan of Matt damon, but he did a really good job with the accent. I think an Afrikaans accent is one of the hardest accents to fake.

I wouldn't call myself a diehard rugby fan or anything, but being married to a south african means that I watch a fair amount of rugby with her family. It was pretty clear that the scenes playing rugby featured people who have no idea how to play rugby. But i'm sure it would be the same if a foreign film company tried to portray football.

But overall, I loved it. will watch again.

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"I don't expect many to like it in the United States. Its about two things Americans don't know about or understand. Rugby and another nations politics."

truth.

[Edited on December 13, 2009 at 8:16 AM. Reason : a]

12/13/2009 8:16:23 AM

I wonder if the Unrated DVD version will feature the rugby parties?

12/13/2009 9:05:54 AM

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"It was pretty clear that the scenes playing rugby featured people who have no idea how to play rugby."

i remember reading something about some former national players or something working with the film (or maybe even being in the scenes). are they really that bad?

12/13/2009 11:18:12 AM

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"I wouldn't call myself a diehard rugby fan or anything, but being married to a south african means that I watch a fair amount of rugby with her family. It was pretty clear that the scenes playing rugby featured people who have no idea how to play rugby. But i'm sure it would be the same if a foreign film company tried to portray football. "

I used to play Rugby in school when I lived overseas...I would have to agree with you there. Although for a movie I think they did a pretty good job so it was easy to over look.

12/13/2009 3:07:29 PM

That and some of the rules have changed from back then, regardling line outs etc..

^eleventeen
I play for the battleship rugby team here in mobile, AL.

we are division 2

12/14/2009 12:40:03 AM

Our rugby team is planning on going tonight. I hope this movie will spark more of an interest in rugby. Unfortnately, I didn't start playing until after I graduated from NCSU. I wish I would have gotten interested in it a long time ago.

12/15/2009 12:15:30 PM

I loved playing Rugby growing up...but stopped playing when I moved to the United States because no one else had heard of it...sadly I can't play now, now that its picked up, because I have a fused spine with titanium

12/15/2009 12:46:45 PM

bttt for weekend movie suggestions.

12/16/2009 7:11:23 PM

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"^^I don't expect many to like it in the United States. Its about two things Americans don't know about or understand. Rugby and another nations politics."

This movie just looks terrible to me, so I have been ignoring the previews after awhile. lol, I actually thought this was a soccer movie. That has to show how little I care.

12/16/2009 7:55:13 PM

^my point exactly.

12/16/2009 8:05:05 PM

It just looks like one of those overly dramatic to the point its cheesy and only made to get an Oscar nomination.

12/16/2009 8:12:49 PM

saw it last night, and didn't think it was too bad. the accents are a bit tough at times, but freeman makes a great mandela. cheesy? yes. a good movie? yes. worth seeing once, at the very least, if for nothing else then to celebrate a really great story line.

12/17/2009 9:03:01 AM

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"Its about two things Americans don't know about or understandcare about. Rugby and another nations politics."

12/17/2009 9:23:24 AM

freeman is really good

12/20/2009 7:29:19 PM

^^^agree.


i liked it a lot.

12/20/2009 7:41:09 PM

Golovko may be the person I hate most on this whole board. "yuk yuk yuk Americans don't know anything because the sports that are popular with them are different from the sports that are popular with me!"

Whatever, dude. A shame whatever happened to your spine couldn't destroy your ability to type.

At any rate, I couldn't give less of a damn about the rugby but I plan to see it for the political aspect (and because Morgan Freeman as Nelson Mandela may be the most awesomely obvious choice in history, and because Clint Eastwood makes good shit).

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To those who have seen it, how much of the focus would you say is on sports stuff?

[Edited on December 21, 2009 at 5:25 PM. Reason : ]

12/21/2009 5:10:55 PM

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"Golovko may be the person I hate most on this whole board. "yuk yuk yuk Americans don't know anything because the sports that are popular with them are different from the sports that are popular with me!" Whatever, dude. A shame whatever happened to your spine couldn't destroy your ability to type."

what are you, an idiot? What part of what I said did you not understand. What I said was accurate...if you can't handle it, then stfu and go watch angels in the outfield or some shit.

and 'popular with me'? where the fuck did you get that from...whats popular here isn't popular overseas and vis versa...get over yourself.

and then you go and prove my point in the same post...

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"At any rate, I couldn't give less of a damn about the rugby"

[Edited on December 21, 2009 at 6:10 PM. Reason : thanks.]

12/21/2009 6:05:13 PM

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" To those who have seen it, how much of the focus would you say is on sports stuff?"

I'd say maybe 35% is rugby, 65% is political unrest and Mandela's awesomeness.

12/21/2009 7:18:51 PM

I understood perfectly. You completely wrote off an entire country as full of ignorant asses.

And what did I prove? I don't give a damn about rugby, just like I don't give a damn about sports in any movie. I don't really like sports. If the movie has something else to offer, though, maybe we can talk. Which is why I asked about the political aspect, which is odd given that, as an American, I apparently don't care about it.

What's the epithet you picked up in chit chat? "Officious prick?" Sounds appropriate.

12/21/2009 10:52:39 PM

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"I understood perfectly. You completely wrote off an entire country as full of ignorant asses."

I don't see why you are so offended by someone saying 'Americans don't care/understand Rugby' and then you come in here and say you don't care about Rugby? What have I missed? I would say the same thing if they released a football or baseball movie in the middle east or hell, Europe. "This movie won't do well here because Europeans/Arabs don't understand/care about football/baseball"

I think the point you're trying to make is that you're a tool just looking to derail a thread.

if you found this...

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"I don't expect many to like it in the United States. Its about two things Americans don't know about or understand. Rugby and another nations politics."

offensive, turn in your man card.

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 12:26 AM. Reason : .]

12/22/2009 12:24:18 AM

I'm sick of your "ignorant american!" routine. This is hardly the first time it's shown up. Again, I don't give a fuck about the sports. It's your effort to tie that to the fact that we "don't know about or understand" the rest of the world.

At any rate, I got my answer to the effect that the sports thing isn't the main, defining feature, so I can go see it without fear that I will be bored to tears with the game details.

12/22/2009 3:36:17 PM

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"I'm sick of your "ignorant american!" routine. This is hardly the first time it's shown up. Again, I don't give a fuck about the sports. It's your effort to tie that to the fact that we "don't know about or understand" the rest of the world."

the only ignorant prick here is you, please point out where I said ignorant Americans. And while you're at it, get off my nuts kkthx. You're nothing but a troll. Take this shit some where else and GTFO.

12/22/2009 3:57:51 PM

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"Its about two things Americans don't know about or understand. Rugby and another nations politics."

Pretty straightforward, I think.

12/22/2009 4:01:43 PM

Yes it is pretty straight forward. Americans don't care about rugby as you and so many others have said. So what part of not caring about Rugby makes you ignorant?

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 4:14 PM. Reason : Y]

12/22/2009 4:12:06 PM

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"I'm sick of your "ignorant american!" routine. This is hardly the first time it's shown up. Again, I don't give a fuck about the sports. It's your effort to tie that to the fact that we "don't know about or understand" the rest of the world."

Looks like you are projecting an opinion that no one expressed onto someone just to argue. Americans by and large don't know/give a shit about rugby, and I don't see how that's controversial at all especially since you expressed that same sentiment earlier in the thread.

12/22/2009 4:42:01 PM

I mean really?

Look I don't really think Glovoko meant anything inherently disrespectful in his post, but it doesn't take an excessive amount of genius to see Grumpy's point; even if you disagree.

Saying Americans don't care about or understand rugby/other nations politics can come off as condescending to Americans. 'Understand' can be taken to imply that even if Americans showed interest, they're too stupid or ignorant to 'get it'.

Either way there seems to be a bit of history fueling this. So carry on!

12/22/2009 4:47:26 PM

^except I'm just as American as him...so I don't see why I'd be calling myself ignorant? I just happen to have been exposed to rugby at a younger age because I went to a British school from kindergarten until 6th grade at the same time I wasn't exposed to baseball or 'American Football' (what we called it) until I moved to the United States...so its hardly calling someone ignorant because they don't care/know about a sport that isn't part of their culture.

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"Either way there seems to be a bit of history fueling this. So carry on!"

there is no history that I'm aware of...prior to this thread I was unaware that username even existed. I don't think we've ever posted in the same thread I could be mistaken though.

[Edited on December 22, 2009 at 4:51 PM. Reason : .]

12/22/2009 4:50:41 PM

nelson mandelah was a communist. this was the truth and some people dont know it.

12/22/2009 4:51:50 PM

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"so its hardly calling someone ignorant because they don't care/know about a sport that isn't part of their culture."

The part where you're calling us ignorant is the part where you say we don't know about or understand another nation's politics, especially since it implies that everyone else in the world does have that understanding. Otherwise, why would you mention it and expect the film to do well anywhere other than South Africa?

There are plenty of Americans who love to go on and on about how stupid their country is. You'd hardly be the first.

And the "I've never heard of Grumpy" bit is unconvincing. I can find at least one incident in the past few weeks where you directly responded to something I said, and a good many more in which we both posted at length.

12/22/2009 5:41:16 PM

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"The part where you're calling us ignorant is the part where you say we don't know about or understand another nation's politics, especially since it implies that everyone else in the world does have that understanding. Otherwise, why would you mention it and expect the film to do well anywhere other than South Africa?"

Would you like me to have listed out all the other countries around the world where this movie also wouldn't do well for the same reasons? You know, since its relevant to a movie being show in the US?

Seriously, get the fuck off your overly sensitive ass high horse.

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"There are plenty of Americans who love to go on and on about how stupid their country is. You'd hardly be the first."

I'd really like to go on and on about how stupid you are...but we'll leave that out of this thread.

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"And the "I've never heard of Grumpy" bit is unconvincing. I can find at least one incident in the past few weeks where you directly responded to something I said, and a good many more in which we both posted at length."

I apologize if I've offended your very existence on this board because I don't remember you or think about usernames outside of each thread I see them in.

12/22/2009 5:56:25 PM

I'm not offended by you not remembering me. I might not remember you if you weren't always being such a colossal dick. I just wanted to dissuade anybody from getting the idea that I just popped up out of nowhere to give you a hard time.

Let's just lay out the bare facts here:

You said that you did not expect the film to do well in the United States in particular because we don't care about rugby and don't know anything about or understand the politics of other countries. I was sick of the whole bit about Americans being ignorant of the rest of the world and called you a dumb shithead. You called me a dumb shithead back. Now we are pretty much just taking turns calling each other dumb shitheads.

Unless you feel like something is going to radically change the present course of exchanging variations of "Dumb shithead!" I suppose we can let it peter out in this thread for the time being.

12/22/2009 6:09:57 PM

Yes, you are a tool, I agree. Case closed.

12/22/2009 6:10:58 PM

I will no be seeing this movie even though I like both the main actors...


And I will admit that the main reasons are that I don't care about politics in general (esp that of another country) or rugby.

12/23/2009 1:40:11 PM

I, too, hate a good story.

12/23/2009 2:03:20 PM

Finally got to see this movie over the weekend. Not too bad, definitely saw some mistakes as far as the rugby portion of the film (especially the last scrum).

12/28/2009 7:39:50 AM

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"I was sick of the whole bit about Americans being ignorant of the rest of the world"

I mean, you do realize that this is accurate for the majority of Americans, right?

Sure, this doesn't apply to most of TWW, as we are college educated or in the process of being educated, but we don't make up the majority of the population. The majority of Americans are ignorant of pretty much anything outside of their wal-mart world.

12/28/2009 9:15:41 AM

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"^except I'm just as American as him...so I don't see why I'd be calling myself ignorant? I just happen to have been exposed to rugby at a younger age because I went to a British school from kindergarten until 6th grade at the same time I wasn't exposed to baseball or 'American Football' (what we called it) until I moved to the United States...so its hardly calling someone ignorant because they don't care/know about a sport that isn't part of their culture."

wat



and do none of you remember 1990 or the election? really? this country was watching south africa very closely, it should not be that hard to understand why their story resonated so clearly in this country. so maybe this country isn't that involved in international politics but this is a story that is well known in this country. the news talked about it daily, school kids read about it in class, it was discussed in homes across the country.

12/28/2009 10:33:28 AM

it was great..

if this movie adequately portrayed mandela to a T, wow, what a man and what a leader.. wish some of our politicians would take some of his advice and know that the best way to run government is not to ignore the other side, but to win it over by showing it respect.

I know nothing about rugby, but you didnt need to know anything to really enjoy the movie.

12/28/2009 11:17:51 PM

^^are you having difficulties reading?

also its what not wat.

Taking my dad to see this tomorrow...can't wait to see it again.

[Edited on December 29, 2009 at 12:20 AM. Reason : .]

12/29/2009 12:20:17 AM