This has gotta be one of the best "tv" shows espn has ever done. holy cow.

12/12/2009 9:36:15 PM

tilt was awesome they shoulda brought it back

playmakers was pretty good too

12/12/2009 10:08:55 PM

fuckers didn't mention that 35-7 Sugar Bowl beat down by Tennessee that kept Miami from winning the National Championship in the 1985 season

12/12/2009 10:17:34 PM

post it in the anti-tennessee media bias thread

12/12/2009 10:19:04 PM

they prob wont show alabama whoopin that ass in the national championship game for 1992 season either

12/12/2009 10:34:58 PM

^ that is easily my top non-Tennessee sports related memory ever

12/12/2009 10:40:35 PM

i was young but i remember watching that game on tv. still remember vividly george teague running down lamar thomas right before he scores a TD and takes the ball out of his hands then turns around and heads off in the other direction.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx1AZSeCkkM



[Edited on December 12, 2009 at 10:44 PM. Reason : torreta was prob the worst heisman winner ever...look at that form in the link ]

12/12/2009 10:43:33 PM

with my dad being a Bama fan it was huge, loved it... everyone at school was talking shit for Miami, I was the only one among my friends that wanted Bama to win and I picked them... twas the birth of the Lord of the Lines

12/12/2009 10:48:06 PM

the first segment really did a good job of showing how miami changed college football forever and integrated hip hop into sports all while uniting a city that was like current day baghdad.

12/12/2009 10:49:30 PM

man, Lamar Thomas hasnt grown up a bit... what a dick

12/12/2009 10:51:57 PM

if there was one city i could shove into my butthole and shit out onto a bonfire, it would be miami.

12/12/2009 10:52:16 PM

ahaha they did skip right over that and mention butch davis trying to clean up the hurricanes


ok howard shnellinidiot...longest, best dynasty since WWII...alabama in the 60s and 70s may have something to say about that...along with USC too



[Edited on December 12, 2009 at 10:59 PM. Reason : g]

12/12/2009 10:55:24 PM

none of those other teams won THE WAY miami did. no team ever in anything did. It would be like putting team usa into college basketball and throwing allys to lebron and kobe all day.

12/12/2009 11:02:08 PM

really? bama had somewhere around 6 or 7 titles in the 60s and 70s. the polls F'd bama out of some other possible titles in the past but i cant remember if any of those were from that era.

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"Alabama's 1979 squad concluded the most dominating decade in college football history on the first day of 1980 when the '79 squad clinched a perfect 12-0 season and Bama's 11th Natonal Championship with a 24-9 win over Arkansas. Alabama's national title team so dominated its opponents that the Tide allowed but 67 points for the entire season and shut out five opponents. Guard Jim Bunch, center Dwight Stevenson and cornerback Don McNeal earned All-American honors. For the decade of the 1970s, the Alabama Crimson Tide compiled an incredible 103-16-1 record. Considering 5 of those losses came in 1970 makes the final nine year stretch of 97-11-0 even more imposing. "

yeah. the 77 season notre dame screwed bama out of a national title that year...i had a feeling there was one they got jobbed in that decade. they also finished undefeated in 66 and somehow ended up 3rd

and if you think they didnt play a tough schedule or anything...here are some teams they played in 78: Bama faced Nebraska, Missouri, Southern Cal, Washington, Florida, Tennessee, LSU, Auburn and Penn State

[Edited on December 12, 2009 at 11:16 PM. Reason : woot]

12/12/2009 11:05:34 PM

Miami isnt even the best all time program in Florida

12/12/2009 11:06:44 PM

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12/12/2009 11:25:16 PM

First...that 10 year run they had was ridiculous. 4 titles in 10 years says something. They had maybe one average year in that span. Nobody is saying they have one of the top programs ever...they are just saying that one span was one of the best runs for a program ever...and it was.

And plenty of teams have had dominant eras...but Miami changed the game. And they didn't change it by the way the actually game was played...i.e., they didn't usher in the option offense, or the forward pass, or some new defensive scheme...they changed the style of the game. The celebrations, the swagger, etc. You see it everywhere now. There isn't a team that does it as much as Miami did as a team back then (FSU tried to afterwards, and to a certain extent they did...fuck, Amato tried to bring it to State when he was here), but individually, it's everywhere.

I don't see how you can argue with anything in that "documentary."

12/12/2009 11:25:32 PM

and thats why no one outside of miami likes them.

12/12/2009 11:27:47 PM

Meh...I don't dislike them. If I was a little older during that era, then I guess there's a possibility I would have disliked them like everyone else did. But I loved FSU growing up when they were dominant because of their swagger and the way they played...but I despise teams like Florida now.

12/12/2009 11:37:04 PM

I missed it. Airing again?

12/12/2009 11:38:26 PM

I wonder how loud the "Fuck Miami" chant sounded on TV when they had Gore and Hester

That was the loudest I have ever heard Carter Finley

12/12/2009 11:39:09 PM

12/12/2009 11:41:13 PM

florida now is dominant but they arent swagger like fsu and miami were so I dont see how you're drawing that comparison. florida is a "classy" program like unc bball.

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"But I loved FSU growing up when they were dominant because of their swagger and the way they played...but I despise teams like Florida now. "

Quote :

"Amato tried to bring it to State when he was here), "

he did on defense.

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"they changed the style of the game."

they also changed recruiting. college football was almost all white before.

12/13/2009 12:17:39 AM

Where are the Tennessee and Bama documentaries, bitch?

12/13/2009 12:20:04 AM

5 national championships in 20 years. It's all about the U.

6 if that asshat Terry Porter swallows his whistle on a fourth down play that decides the 01 national championship game. Pass interference my ass.

12/13/2009 12:31:30 AM

why would anyone want their school to be known as a thug university?...if nc state were running around like a bunch of idiots on the field and startin fights during games and constantly in trouble with the law, i could never pull for them.

MTV, Yo aliases unite!

[Edited on December 13, 2009 at 12:33 AM. Reason : f]

12/13/2009 12:32:08 AM

nobody cares as long as theyre winning football games.

12/13/2009 12:33:20 AM

i think a lot of people around these parts would care more than you think...id like to think people of north carolina arent quite as scummy as miami-ers

12/13/2009 12:34:53 AM

signed, jimmy v

12/13/2009 12:35:38 AM

boy when i think about nc state basketball all i think about is how similar they are to miami football's thug u!


and anyway, how arent you suspended yet?

[Edited on December 13, 2009 at 12:39 AM. Reason : f]

12/13/2009 12:38:50 AM

because i was agreeing with your claim

12/13/2009 12:43:30 AM

24 arrests, now at least 25 counting the latest DUI, in the last 4 years:

http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/11820284/rss

Tim Tebow's greatness must cancel out the rest of the team's thugness.

12/13/2009 12:44:41 AM

i dont remember anyone busting up here saying florida was a clean program...

im done here. arguing with aliases is so fucking pointless

12/13/2009 12:46:53 AM

^What is there to argue about?

Miami is the most interesting college football program in history. That's why the documentary happened. 5 National Championships.

Sorry.

12/13/2009 4:27:23 AM

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"Miami is the most interesting college football program in history."

what a stupid comment. There is no way to judge or rank "interesting" when it comes to college football programs...

12/13/2009 4:39:02 AM

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"florida now is dominant but they arent swagger like fsu and miami were so I dont see how you're drawing that comparison. florida is a "classy" program like unc bball."

FAIL.

Florida has had more arrests in the last 4 years (2005-2009) then Miami did 1987-1991.

Florida has a guy that SHOT a AK-47 indoors and STILL played.

Florida also has a dude who bought gas on a murdered girl's credit card.

Sit down.

[Edited on December 13, 2009 at 4:49 AM. Reason : :]

12/13/2009 4:42:50 AM

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"Miami isnt even the best all time program in Florida"

Considering Miami has 5 National Titles, a few more than anyone else in Florida.... and dominates the series with UF or FSU... the "all-time" total win-loss record doesnt mean shit when they've still won the series despite only being relevant since 1980.

You haters can hate all you want. Doesn't change the fact Miami had one of the best dynasties ever and IS THE NFL talent factory... far above Tennessee or Notre Dame or even Florida.

12/13/2009 4:47:54 AM

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"what a stupid comment. There is no way to judge or rank "interesting" when it comes to college football programs..."

You're right, how stupid of me. To make a comment regarding something not quantifiable. That never
happens. Can't wait to see "The Vols" documentary.

12/13/2009 5:39:37 AM

I guess off the field is a different story but i was talking on the field which is why I said "classy" and not classy. florida doesn't pick fights, dance, celebrate or any of that on the field.

[Edited on December 13, 2009 at 10:33 AM. Reason : insane speed was accidentally invented by a government test on poor folk in miami]

12/13/2009 10:31:47 AM

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"Can't wait to see "The Vols" documentary."

you are aware that this documentary was made by a university of miami alum, yes?

12/13/2009 10:54:01 AM

I hate the term "swagger". It excuses unsportsmanlike play.

12/13/2009 11:01:39 AM

the thing i found most surprising was the dancing and all that at the end of a touchdown. i was relatively young then and didn't follow football like i do now, but that was amazing to see in college football.

12/13/2009 11:23:31 AM

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"what a stupid comment. There is no way to judge or rank "interesting" when it comes to college football programs..."

And what other program is as unique?

Miami is not a huge diploma mill like Tennessee and have a huge alumni base and boosters.

Yet they STILL kicked the shit out of "traditional" programs.

Speaking of Tennessee... you do realize they have a "Fulmer Cup" for a reason, right?

12/13/2009 11:51:50 AM

Did anyone else get the "Fuck Butch Davis" vibe at the end?

12/13/2009 1:07:02 PM

^^ there are plenty that are unique.. you dont have to be "bad boys" to be interesting to anyone above the age of 12... Hell, currently GT is more "unique" than just about any fucking team in the BCS conferences. Northwestern teams of 95-96 were just as unique, Boise State, etc.

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"the "all-time" total win-loss record doesnt mean shit when they've still won the series despite only being relevant since 1980."

when ranking all-time programs then yes, all time win-loss does mean shit... its not "who has been the best since 1980", by definition its ALL TIME

And by the way, I did have Miami as the best in state until Florida's run of the last few years, but now I would have them #1. They have more overall wins against much harder competition, only 2 games behind Miami in head to head (and they havent played much lately or Florida would be several games ahead probably). Miami was definitely the best team of the 80s, no doubt, but overall I would now give it to Florida although Florida State's consistency until the last few years is fucking amazing. Its really tight between all three but I dont think Miami (or FSU or Florida) is head and shoulders above the rest like that documentary tried to make it sound

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"You're right, how stupid of me. To make a comment regarding something not quantifiable. That never happens."

nice try on trying to twist my words, nowhere did I say "they shouldnt have made a documentary about them", I said you cant just automatically say "they are the MOST interesting team ever" which you cant.

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"Can't wait to see "The Vols" documentary"

And there are plenty of Tennessee documentaries. There are plenty of documentaries about just about every program probably. Hell, I myself have seen 3 about Penn State alone.


[Edited on December 13, 2009 at 1:42 PM. Reason : d]

12/13/2009 1:35:41 PM

The U was a great one...


this and the Wayne Gretzky 30 for 30 are definitely my two favorites.


I loved Michel Irvin

"There was no media bias, there was no conspiracy.... we were some bad boys, and we LOVED being bad boys."

12/13/2009 2:15:43 PM

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"you are aware that this documentary was made by a university of miami alum, yes?"

And shown/bought(?)/funded(?) by ESPN because they knew how many people would watch it.

Quote :

"when ranking all-time programs then yes, all time win-loss does mean shit... its not "who has been the best since 1980", by definition its ALL TIME And by the way, I did have Miami as the best in state until Florida's run of the last few years, but now I would have them #1. They have more overall wins against much harder competition, only 2 games behind Miami in head to head (and they havent played much lately or Florida would be several games ahead probably). Miami was definitely the best team of the 80s, no doubt, but overall I would now give it to Florida although Florida State's consistency until the last few years is fucking amazing. Its really tight between all three but I dont think Miami (or FSU or Florida) is head and shoulders above the rest like that documentary tried to make it sound"

You're contradicting yourself pretty hard.

Florida has won a lot lately, sure. FIVE NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS ALL TIME VERSUS THREE. Not to mention the canes having the all time series 28-26. Not to mention that the Gators are a bunch of pussies that virtually DO NOT PLAY out of conference away games, and have virtually REFUSED to play Miami in the past 20 years, other than 2008.

If you want to play by your established rules, its not "who has been the best since 1990," in which case it would be debatable.

12/13/2009 5:48:54 PM

no, I didnt... I said they were close and that the last few years pushed Florida ahead... so, if we had this same argument in 1990 the decade of the 80s would have Miami ahead, but thats not just looking at the 80s.

and if you play in the SEC you deserve not to play hard schedules OOC

[Edited on December 13, 2009 at 5:54 PM. Reason : d]

12/13/2009 5:52:09 PM

Quote :

"signed, jimmy v "

lol mamba spittin some truth

12/13/2009 5:54:31 PM

Quote :

"and if you play in the SEC you deserve not to play hard schedules OOC"

Yeah bullshit. Teams like UGA and SC at least have the balls to uphold their rivalry.

and you CLEARLY have a double standard. You say that Miami isn't the best program of all time in
general (which I am not arguing, for the record), and that Florida IS the best program all time in
the state of florida, using opposite logic against miami each time, are you serious? It's not like
Miami has completely fallen off the map since '90. They've won 2 more (undeniably should have
won 3 more). Get off the SEC's dick.

And you're right. There's nothing less interesting than a private school with a minuscule student
population beating the shit out of everyone and dominating headlines for better or worse for a
decade.

[Edited on December 13, 2009 at 6:12 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2009 6:09:44 PM