9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
I want to start spinning house music for fun and to relax, and I'm trying to figure out what sort of mixer I should start out with. I'm just using Atomix Virtual DJ until I get a better program, but it can be used with an external mixer and I want to start practicing on one. Anybody have any recommendations? 12/28/2009 12:37:02 PM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
DJ'S ARE NOT MUSICIANS! THEY ARE MUSIC PLAYER PLAYERS!
/Rollins 12/28/2009 12:50:50 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
that guy never saw a Jonathan Peters show 12/28/2009 12:55:45 PM |
poopface All American 29367 Posts user info edit post |
i pretend that i'm one 12/28/2009 1:07:06 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Here are my recommendations:
1. Start with vinyl. You want to develop the skill to mix records by hand.
2. Get two Technic SL-1200 turntables. Used.
3. Any two channel mixer will do. Don't worry about "battle style" or whatever the fuck. Just get a standard two channel DJ mixer. All you really need is crossfade and volume knobs on either side. Something like this is fine:
http://www.samash.com/p/PS121X%2065%20DJ%20Mixer_-49982190 12/28/2009 1:09:01 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Any two-channel mixer will do just fine, but I'd recommend getting one with a cue fader instead of a cue knob or switches. A long time ago I had a mixer with cue toggles on each channel instead of a fader, and those toggles were a royal pain in the ass. 12/28/2009 1:17:49 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
there really is no need to start with vinyl at this point. don't get me wrong, i definitely think it is the preferable way to dj, but between the cost of the records themselves and having to carry them to your gigs, it's just not worth it. especially when programs like Serato and Traktor are out there 12/28/2009 1:18:12 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
True, I agree on the cost issue, but there's something to be said for learning how to actually mix a record. It's a great skill and it really improves the beatmatching ability. 12/28/2009 1:20:03 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
I can never decide whether it's better to have iPods and be prepared for a night/party to go anywhere the crowd takes it, or to think carefully about your set during the day and bring the two crates of records that will make it happen regardless of where the crowd might lead. I lean towards the former, but maybe only because I'm too scatterbrained to do a good job with the latter. 12/28/2009 1:21:23 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
i think at Jackpot the first option is usually the better one. mainly because of the variety of the crowds that come in
though i did always enjoy going to Alibi (when it was cool) and seeing djs spin from their crates of old funk/reggae 45s all night 12/28/2009 1:26:40 PM |
poopface All American 29367 Posts user info edit post |
12/28/2009 1:41:16 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
God nailed it.
practice practice practice
and by the way...DJing wont help you "relax" in an way shape or form...its a little stressful. 12/28/2009 2:22:12 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
while I don't usually find it stressful where I DJ, I will admit that I've had a few dreams where i'm djing and something goes wrong, so it's gotta cause some anxiety apparenty
you've got a what.cd account, check out Traktor. it's free and a small download. not that different than Virtual DJ, but i like it a little more. i still need to buy an external soundcard so i can hook it up to my mixer, anyone have any recommendations for those? 12/28/2009 2:32:01 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
the soundblaster ones at best buy are good for that. 12/28/2009 4:30:53 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
you gonna do some choppin and screwin man??
if you do gotta let me hear it 12/28/2009 4:43:07 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
haha nah I'm a house music guy
tribal is my shit but I love minimal as well as progressive
I am def going to learn vinyl, but I think that will come when I get more serious about it (i.e. have more money to invest)
I also want my mixer to be able to handle three tracks at once (I'm assuming a two channel will only handle two)...while not actually DJing, I've been working with mixing tracks for a while and have some nice mashups I'd like to be able to fuck around with. I also dont wanna have to upgrade a few months after buying
At this point I'm going to recommend all fans of electronic music go and get Fabric 46 mixed by Claude VonStroke...you are sure to fall in love with a few tracks on there and of course CVS is the fucking man.
I'm going to have to keep this thread alive!
[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 8:55 PM. Reason : as] 12/28/2009 8:55:13 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.amazon.com/Numark-M4-Three-Channel-Scratch-Mixer/dp/B001EO13V6/ref=pd_cp_MI_1
What say you wolf web? 12/28/2009 8:58:03 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
never knew you had it in you... there are like 5 people that like house in NC...
the "1200" in my screen name wasnt random
but that part when died when I moved to Raleigh and discovered people dont like to move much and prefer bars. I miss 1994-2001
[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 9:02 PM. Reason : d] 12/28/2009 9:00:08 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
wow I must say I am shocked I figured you for a mostly johnny cash guy hahaha
when I get back to Raleigh we should throw a HOUSE PARTY GET IT 12/28/2009 9:04:49 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
hahha, I do like Johnny, but I was a hardcore club kid from middle of HS until moving to Raleigh, I think I had sat in bar maybe 5-10 times in my life before coming to Raleigh (not counting sporting events). Had really trusting and open parents, even in HS they would let us drive to Charlotte, Atlanta, Nashville, St. Louis, Indy, etc. for events
[Edited on December 28, 2009 at 9:15 PM. Reason : d] 12/28/2009 9:08:57 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
fuckin a man did you see oscar g at mosquito a few months back? 12/28/2009 10:30:39 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I live in Atlanta now... 12/28/2009 11:09:11 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
damn thats right
any decent clubs down there? 12/29/2009 12:22:47 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, its a lot more hip hop now than it used to be but there are still a lot... but, its hard for me to get back into it hardcore, Raleigh made me lazy bar guy 12/29/2009 12:25:04 AM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
GAY
go to a fucking show you'll be reminded of what you're missing
somebody give me a website where I can find who is spinning where
I'm sure there are some great shows I'm missing in DC or Atlanta or maybe even Charlotte
[Edited on December 29, 2009 at 12:57 AM. Reason : .] 12/29/2009 12:55:37 AM |
Azaka ///Meh 4833 Posts user info edit post |
I haven't read every post in this thread.
There used to be a site called carolinaspins.us or spin.us/carolinas but they closed down a while back. I'm not sure if there are any other sites like this that have taken their place.
I have 2 Technics SL-1200's one MKIII and one MKII I think (not in Raleigh atm, so I can't check) in good condition with a huge ass case, 50 random house records and a shitty broken mixer (headphone jack doesn't work, possibly fixable) that I'm looking to get rid of. If you are interested IM or PM me. I also have God's nice mixer that he might be willing to sell also. 12/29/2009 1:25:24 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I am def going to learn vinyl, but I think that will come when I get more serious about it (i.e. have more money to invest)" |
Um..
Unless you're mixing with a program on your computer, which is retarded, you're going to need something to back spin the song, spin it forward, etc.
Digital turntables (like a Denon S3500) which simulate the vinyl effect that you can just hook up an iPOD to are REALLY expensive. Like... 5 times the cost of a turntable.
The cheapest initial investment is going to be two turntables and a mixer. Records will run you anywhere between $6-10.
And forget this triple mix mashup crap. The best DJs in the world still use two turntables and a mixer.
[Edited on December 29, 2009 at 8:43 AM. Reason : ]12/29/2009 8:42:55 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Vinyl simulation turntables are silly, but you can get an entire Serato setup to go with your second-hand 1200s that will get you all set to use your computer as the vinyl-controllable music source for $500. ] 12/29/2009 9:06:14 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but that part when died when I moved to Raleigh and discovered people dont like to move much and prefer bars" |
There's nothing worse than watching a fucking fat man try to dance.12/29/2009 9:40:39 AM |
MunkeyMuck All American 4427 Posts user info edit post |
I'm getting in to some basic setups for mixing and tinkering with creating my own stuff. Right now I'm just running Traktor Pro and using the Korg Nano series and I love it. It all runs 170, 120 if you don't pick up the nano keyboard, and you can do some cool shit with it all. I plan on adding a lot more, but for now it's perfect.
http://www.korg.com/nanoseries
Video of a guy messing with this setup:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jy76DoXmTm8
Also, check out this site / blog / thing:
http://www.djtechtools.com/
Good forum too. 12/29/2009 12:19:29 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There's nothing worse than watching a fucking fat man try to dance." |
You have issues, br0.12/29/2009 1:33:15 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ fuck you and that fucking growth you call a nose you stupid bitch, you dont know shit 12/29/2009 8:27:13 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.myspace.com/neonbordeauxtheband
i found fruityloops in a pile of my shit one day.
IM A DJ 12/30/2009 11:03:22 AM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
FL is for production, not DJing. 12/30/2009 3:21:46 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
alrite. 1/5/2010 6:14:49 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Anybody else use VirtualDJ? 1/5/2010 6:27:26 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
House, really? Eww. Trance all the way!!! 1/5/2010 7:08:05 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Trance was the first electronic music I listened to. 1/5/2010 7:31:18 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
trance 1/5/2010 8:18:23 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Oscar G @ Moskito in Raleigh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYazOMH8Xsg
I was at this show and it was fucking nuts
I wish somebody could tell me the track that starts @ 5:43
I was blown away when he played it and have been looking for it since I heard it this summer to no avail 1/5/2010 8:49:19 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Trance was the first electronic music I listened to." |
And not Techno*? Hmm. That is interesting. Granted, my first consistent introduction to electronic music was Happy Hardcore.
*Granted, back in the day it was all called "Techno".1/5/2010 9:05:31 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Paul Oakenfold - Tranceport was the first CD I got 1/5/2010 9:52:07 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
^ man that makes me feel really really really old... 1/5/2010 10:31:44 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Hey man you're only 5 years my senior.
And I simply didn't know anyone who listened to electronic music growing up so I wasn't exposed to it until my Dad got a fucking DirecTV dish of all things. They played that CD on one of the MAYBE 2 electronic music channels and from there I was hooked. 1/6/2010 4:03:12 AM |
beethead All American 6513 Posts user info edit post |
i had a vestax before i sold my tables (should never have done that). never had or heard a complaint about a vestax product.
i really need to find some 1200s again.. more so now since i came into a bunch of records... 1/6/2010 12:53:24 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
What records do you have? 1/6/2010 6:35:32 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Somebody embed plz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlzTuv7ElUg&NR=1 1/7/2010 2:23:14 AM |
Azaka ///Meh 4833 Posts user info edit post |
] 1/7/2010 6:06:49 AM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Now somebody find that fucking track!!! 1/7/2010 1:12:20 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
I can't even understand the lyrics. 1/7/2010 1:13:42 PM |