and this administration will forever be known as a "do nothing" administration. The great American "savior" turned out to be all bark and no bite.




*queue the 'McCain couldnt do it any better' argument from the liberals who realized they made a mistake at the voting booth (granted, i doubt mccain was the right candidate myself, but better than this idiot)*

*queue the 'he is still cleaning up Bush's adminstration' argument that liberals use as their excuse when they hide their newly found disdain for obama (all obama voters are regretting their decision)*

1/1/2010 9:33:27 PM

you forgot to queue the "i'm a troll" argument

1/1/2010 9:38:23 PM

Queue the retarded troll thread for no reason.

Wait you've already created it.

1/1/2010 9:38:30 PM

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/1/1/820494/-Where-we-were,-and-where-we-are

Seems like a pretty long list (granted his administration isn't solely responsible for all of these), maybe you consider this stuff bad, maybe you consider it good, but it doesn't look like nothing at all is an honest description.

1/1/2010 9:42:30 PM

what was the last administration that didn't royally screw the nation? I mean, isn't the idea that we've just been going on a collision course? That means getting worse every time, not just the last one. That's poor sampling. Nothing else.

1/1/2010 10:01:35 PM

Bush won another term, Obama will also....sorry, no non radical GOPers out there....

1/1/2010 10:03:25 PM

yeah i thought by now obama would've won the Afghanistan war, saved the economy, passed health care reform, cured cancer, sent a man to mars, and cured retardation

but by looking at the OP i know obama has failed on at least one front, what a failure

1/1/2010 10:04:33 PM

It's a waste of time to even talk about the executive branch as the deciding factor in pass/fail for the country. Last I checked, Obama didn't take bribes to support legislation. I voted for the guy, and I have been utterly disappointed, but what I've learned from really paying attention since last Fall is that congress is the group that really does the fucking of the country. Without them, Obama can bluster on about whatever it is he wants to do, but they are the ones at the root of evil. I suppose he could veto, but I don't really see him wielding that pen any time soon.

1/1/2010 10:12:35 PM

wtf do you people actually expect in the year of the worst financial crisis, afghan war, and health care reform

he has used all his time and resourse on the economy and health care reform and has done a pretty good job on both fronts,
i dont think at the begining of 2009 anyone expected healthcare reform and the economy to be as far a long as it is now,
so what do you want from one man?

1/1/2010 10:25:38 PM

hey hey hey hey

hey

he vetoed his first piece of legislation the other day

(it was legislation designed to appropriate defense department funds in case congress couldn't pass the defense bill because of the blizzard)

1/1/2010 10:26:20 PM

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"and this administration will forever be known as a "do nothing" administration. The great American "savior" turned out to be all bark and no bite. "

But... But... But...

I thought Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh have him as a radical, someone who's going to change this country FOR THE WORSE! Someone who wants to do radical things.

Now you're coming out and saying that he's a "do nothing" administration. Something I've also heard on Fox by the same people I've mentioned (well, except Rush, obviously, as he's not on Fox News regularly).

Which is it? A radical or someone who does nothing? A radical who does nothing isn't really a radical at all.

1/1/2010 10:28:49 PM

Go away lafta, your trolling is middle school level at best.

[Edited on January 1, 2010 at 10:35 PM. Reason : .]

1/1/2010 10:35:02 PM

im not trolling, its a fair question
what the hell did you actually expect?

its easy to say you are disappointed, but its not so easy to state your expectations.

1/1/2010 10:52:00 PM

Wtf are you even talking about?

1/1/2010 11:43:46 PM

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"a "do nothing" administration"

This is how I would describe an ideal presidential administration. One that doesn't do anything. Invariably, when they 'try' to do something, it makes our lives worse.

Admittedly, I would have liked Obama to undo some of the damage done by Bush, such as disbanding Homeland Security for one.

1/2/2010 9:54:09 AM

Super cool thread bro

1/2/2010 11:25:59 AM

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"and this administration will forever be known as a "do nothing" administration. The great American "savior" turned out to be all bark and no bite."

Actually, I don't think it'll go down as the "do nothing" administration. It'll go down as the "do almost everything wrong, do the opposite of what needs to be done, and sink the country further into the hole" administration.

1/2/2010 11:48:14 AM

I don't see $1.8 trillion deficits as "do nothing"

1/2/2010 12:09:54 PM

We'd ALL be better off is he did NOTHING.

1/2/2010 12:22:13 PM

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"Super cool thread bro "

lol - why even post?

1/2/2010 12:55:40 PM

Ask yourself the same question with respect to the OP

*takes a big steaming shit on this thread*

1/2/2010 12:58:43 PM

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"We'd ALL be better off is he did NOTHING."

You are absolutely right. as we have all witnessed - the Right, the tea party folks, and the antiobama folks have all just quieted down in the last six months. its easier to watch this administration (and congress) try to survive on their own shaky (at best) platform. Why waste the energy to try to make a point out of failure when the failing party is already doing it without your help? Just sit back and watch.

1/2/2010 12:59:07 PM

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"*takes a big steaming shit on this thread*"

someones mom didnt get them enough e-attention

1/2/2010 12:59:57 PM

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"and this administration will forever be known as a "do nothing" administration. The great American "savior" turned out to be all bark and no bite."

ya its kind of hard to get anything done when the republicans kick and scream all the way.

I don't agree with a lot of the OBama's administrations platform and priorities for example universal health care or cap n trade. No matter what though the republicans refute or have some qualm in anything the administration does. All this is doing is showing the GOP is more interested in playing partisan hacks than giving a shit about this country.

Obama increases troop levels to Afghanistan, GOP whines that this is futile since he created a "target date" of reducing troop forces.

Obama carries forward the "bailout" plan as originally created by Bush and Co. I do not agree with this bailout but the GOP cried about big spending when they know that had bush's term not expired he would have done the same thing. In this case though they would not have said shit.

Our existing terrorist screen and airport security policy is so tough that want to be terrorist can not get traditional weapons or explosives on an airplane and resort to setting their underwear on fire. What is the response? Cheney somehow using this as a way to show Obama is "soft" in terrorism. Surely if we just blow everyone up like Cheney likes to do those towel heads would just be to scared to bomb us and would likely scream for US love and support.

1/2/2010 1:31:41 PM

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"Obama is "soft" in terrorism"

He is scared to piss off any mid-east kings and dictators. He is a pussy. we should put obama and an al-qeada fighter in a closet and see what happens.

Isreal has tough security in their airports and they havent had problems in 30 years.

1/2/2010 1:36:39 PM

^ lol

you realize Israel does exactly what you were saying you’d never support in the other thread?

haha

1/2/2010 1:40:37 PM

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"He is scared to piss off any mid-east kings and dictators."

Kind of like this guy AM I RITE!?

1/2/2010 2:09:29 PM

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"ya its kind of hard to get anything done when the republicans kick and scream all the way."

Yeah, that's kind of the point. It's really too bad that they don't rubber stamp whatever ludicrous legislation the Democrats come up with, you know? Why can't we just get something through? Why is it so god damn hard to throw away our liberties in this country?

1/2/2010 2:36:09 PM

I think you failed to read any of my post beyond just the first sentence. Have I ever been a blanket approver of anything Obama has done, NO.

Besides its not like the republicans have a good track record these days of protecting our liberties so I do not buy this excuse for one fucking second.

1/2/2010 3:26:20 PM

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"i doubt mccain was the right candidate myself, but better than this idiot"

Wrong.


Maybe off topic, but I don't care.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/12182009/profile.html

I was reminded of it by this quote:

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"what I've learned from really paying attention since last Fall is that congress is the group that really does the fucking of the country."

[Edited on January 2, 2010 at 4:07 PM. Reason : ]

1/2/2010 4:07:04 PM

I voted for him

and I can't completely disagree with the OP.

BUT, I still hold true to the idea that no man (or woman) who thinks he or she is fit to run an enormous body of people is anywhere fit to do it. This mess has been a long time coming, and no one is to blame but everyone who has been in charge in the past 30 years.

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"He is scared to piss off any mid-east kings and dictators. He is a pussy. we should put obama and an al-qeada fighter in a closet and see what happens. "

and this is just retarded. like, 100%. apparently, you snoozed through the respective Bush eras. Saudi Arabia is still the only country in the world that doesn't allow women to participate in the Olympics. Opression? Maaaaaybe. But it's not permissible in any other ME countries.

the Saudis and Chinese have us by the balls. In just about every way, shape, and form.

[Edited on January 2, 2010 at 7:08 PM. Reason : asdfdds]

1/2/2010 7:06:15 PM

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" This is how I would describe an ideal presidential administration. One that doesn't do anything. Invariably, when they 'try' to do something, it makes our lives worse. Admittedly, I would have liked Obama to undo some of the damage done by Bush, such as disbanding Homeland Security for one."

1/2/2010 7:12:38 PM

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"Chinese have us by the balls. In just about every way, shape, and form."

because they hold our debt. debt which has multiplied by this administration.


reading this thread reminds that Generation ME is still full of lazy, self serving bastards. I doubt that will ever change. Keep ruining our economy, pussifying our nation, and liberalizing our ethics - it will be alright in the end.

1/2/2010 7:55:33 PM

AMURICA...LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT

1/2/2010 8:10:41 PM

lol "generation me"

shit goes back way before that

but i guess scapegoats are needed

1/2/2010 9:14:28 PM

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"reading this thread reminds that Generation ME is still full of lazy, self serving bastards"

What the fuck have you done for anyone?

1/2/2010 9:40:42 PM

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"because they hold our debt. debt which has multiplied by this administration. "

I love this. Lets completely ignore the previous administration.

I like how when anyone (regardless of their party) brings up Bush, people just say that we're diverting blame from Obama.

Bull fucking shit. Yeah, he did help increase our debt with the second stimulus package. But God forbid we bring up Bush passing the first one.

It's so obvious at how the GOP is trying to separate itself from Bush and anything he did and anything he supported. And whenever anyone brings him up, they cop out and try to push it into Obama. Well, we can't just ignore the previous 8 years under Bush. You want to talk about losing liberties. Do some people just completely forget things like the Patriot Act, which were championed by both parties in 2001 after fear took a hold of the nation. Fortunately, a few of the provisions have expired 3 days ago (roving wiretaps). But I do believe they are still allowed to get search warrants retroactively and basically go around the public courts and use "secret" courts.

And why shouldn't we blame the Democrats and GOP? Why shouldn't Bush be blamed? If Obama does nothing about it, yeah, I'll blame him for doing nothing about it, very similar to what I will do with Gitmo. But what's with all the fucking coping out when someone DOES blame Bush for something? I find that the very same fuckers who are quick to blame Obama for anything are the same people who will say stuff like, "It's nothing but a blame game," or "We're not talking about Bush," or "Bush isn't in power anymore, so stop blaming him." It's a total diversion from any responsibility THEY want to take for supporting measures taken by the President 2-3 years ago that are now coming under heavy scrutiny. Because admitting that Bush was wrong is like admitting that they were wrong, and their ego can't handle it.

[Edited on January 2, 2010 at 10:03 PM. Reason : .]

1/2/2010 10:01:16 PM

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"self serving bastards"

Free Market FTW?

1/2/2010 10:04:27 PM

I think the point is, Obama ran on the platform of change, and thus far as far as the debt is concerned, he's making Bush look frugal. Obama being apparently relatively clueless about complex economic matters has given the reigns of the economy to Sumers, Rubin, and Geithner, and all they've done is bail out Wall Street banks (the source of the current explosion in the debt) to the detriment of the society at large. I mean, lets put blame on Bush, big fucking deal, that doesnt magically give this administration free reign to fuck up to does it?

1/2/2010 10:27:16 PM

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"I love this. Lets completely ignore the previous administration. I like how when anyone (regardless of their party) brings up Bush, people just say that we're diverting blame from Obama. Bull fucking shit. Yeah, he did help increase our debt with the second stimulus package. But God forbid we bring up Bush passing the first one. It's so obvious at how the GOP is trying to separate itself from Bush and anything he did and anything he supported. And whenever anyone brings him up, they cop out and try to push it into Obama. Well, we can't just ignore the previous 8 years under Bush. You want to talk about losing liberties. Do some people just completely forget things like the Patriot Act, which were championed by both parties in 2001 after fear took a hold of the nation. Fortunately, a few of the provisions have expired 3 days ago (roving wiretaps). But I do believe they are still allowed to get search warrants retroactively and basically go around the public courts and use "secret" courts. And why shouldn't we blame the Democrats and GOP? Why shouldn't Bush be blamed? If Obama does nothing about it, yeah, I'll blame him for doing nothing about it, very similar to what I will do with Gitmo. But what's with all the fucking coping out when someone DOES blame Bush for something? I find that the very same fuckers who are quick to blame Obama for anything are the same people who will say stuff like, "It's nothing but a blame game," or "We're not talking about Bush," or "Bush isn't in power anymore, so stop blaming him." It's a total diversion from any responsibility THEY want to take for supporting measures taken by the President 2-3 years ago that are now coming under heavy scrutiny. Because admitting that Bush was wrong is like admitting that they were wrong, and their ego can't handle it. "

smartest post this thread.

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"Obama ran on the platform of change, and thus far as far as the debt is concerned, he's making Bush look frugal. Obama being apparently relatively clueless about complex economic matters has given the reigns of the economy to Sumers, Rubin, and Geithner"

Well Obama inexperience was a known during the election. Like any president matters are delegated to his "secretaries" to take action
or at least advice the president on the correct policy. Not to beat a dead horse but I am certain many of Bush's "mishaps" and
misguided policies were actually brain children of Dick Cheney, ashcroft, rumsfield, etc. Either way as president you take the blame
for what happens since you are after all the "captain of the ship." Same thing applies to Obama. I question some of the motives
and ideas spewing out of his advisors toxic mouth.

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"that doesnt magically give this administration free reign to fuck up to does it"

You are right and this does not in my opinion. My only issue is that many GOP candidates are playing hypocrite and gasping while pointing
fingers when Obama fucks up, whereas they sat there with their mouth's shut when Bush did the same thing.

1/2/2010 11:08:44 PM

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"I mean, lets put blame on Bush, big fucking deal, that doesnt magically give this administration free reign to fuck up to does it?"

You're right, it doesn't give him free reign to fuck it up. But when people start talking about "accountability" (which I'm beginning to think is a made up word that now means, blame everyone you fucking hate), and they start using Obama as a scapegoat, yeah, I have a problem with it. And when those people are corrected, they get offended.

One of the latest crap that I've heard is the latest terrorist bomber who tried to blow up the plane. My own mother told me that he got his Visa under Obama. When I corrected her and told her that he got it under Bush, she just says, "whatever." Yet it's Obama who's been taking the heat. Rightfully so? I don't think he deserves all the flames.

1/3/2010 12:39:34 AM

Since obviously Obama authorizes on an individual basis each and every Visa that goes through the Dept of State.

Besides unless we lock down like N. Korea, there will always be a chance that some terrorist will strike. IMHO Al Qaeda has done a terrific job. Through their one attack and several botched jobs they have drastically altered american life as we know it and have the people afraid there is a terrorist around every corner.

[Edited on January 3, 2010 at 12:48 AM. Reason : l]

1/3/2010 12:47:34 AM

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"IMHO Al Qaeda has done a terrific job. Through their one attack and several botched jobs they have drastically altered american life as we know it and have the people afraid there is a terrorist around every corner."

This may be the smartest thing you've ever posted. GG.

Our foreign policy is run by a man in a cave with a dialysis machine.

1/3/2010 7:55:28 AM

Yeah, the terrorists won.

This thread, to me, looks like people saying "Well yeah, Bush sucked, and the Obama sucks, but...some people are saying that Obama sucks and not bringing up that Bush sucked!" Listen, I get the point, no one likes seeing hypocritical partisanship. Obama is the president now, though. Bush is gone. Obama is still in office and making bad decisions, so he's going to be the focus, not Bush.

1/3/2010 11:23:08 AM

And bush tended to be a bastard for different reasons than Obama today. At no point did Bush try to implement card check, cap&trade, healthcare reform beyond health savings accounts, or bankrupt the country. (a $300 billion deficit is not even that high; but a $1,800 billion deficit is ruinous).

Also, people sometimes forget that the worse crap ever, the bailouts of 2008, were the product of an unholy alliance between Bush and a Democrat Congress: the Republican Congressmen (probably because they could, but nevertheless they did) voted against the insanity. Well, it is that same damn Democrat Congress that rules today: fuck'em.

Add into that, all the crap Bush did do that was shit, Obama continues to do! Pot dispensaries in California are still being raided, the deportations continue, the TSA is still shit, WTF has changed for the better?!?! Did I miss something?

1/3/2010 12:14:37 PM

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"people sometimes forget that the worse crap ever, the bailouts of 2008, were the product of an unholy alliance between Bush and a Democrat Congress"

Listened to an NPR piece over Christmas in which Reason's Nick Gillespie pointed out that some of the worst abominations of the Bush Presidency were quite bi-partisan when passed (NCLB, Iraq, TARP, Patriot Act, etc)


Democratic politicians have their own special place in the pantheon of ignominy for most of the policies they are opposing today.

1/3/2010 12:18:57 PM

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"what was the last administration that didn't royally screw the nation?"

Clinton didn't screw the nation...





just his interns.

1/3/2010 4:31:14 PM

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"Pot dispensaries in California are still being raided"

Last time i checked many cities made pot their "last priorities" and the white house changed DEA policy to not specifically go after grandma's smoking pot to alleviate their cancer symptoms.

1/3/2010 5:14:07 PM

And yet the DEA raids continue.

1/3/2010 5:49:43 PM