El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
The other thread was supposed to be about Leno but ended up being about tons of other stupid stuff. Figured Conan's new start deserved his own new thread. Eventually he will land somewhere. So where's it gonna be? Fox? ABC? Comedy Central? The Internet? And what time will his show be on? I can't really see any network putting him on at 11:35 without a major program rearrangement. Lots of stuff to figure out. Discuss here.] 1/19/2010 7:02:14 AM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think ABC wants him
and cable would be a big step down from a network, even NBC
probably FOX 1/19/2010 7:12:05 AM |
stevedude hello 4763 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, i think FOX is likely o brien's next move
but also a spot on comedy central would be cool, with some cross shows with stewart and colbert. 1/19/2010 7:58:54 AM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
I agree Fox is looking like the most likely place for Conan to end up, but now the question is what time? Fox's local news ends at 10:30. But starting his show then would mean it would compete with the 2nd half of every 10:00 show on all the other networks, so at the very least a half hour filler show would be needed. Pushing it back to 11:00 means it would compete with the local network news, which wouldn't be the end of the world, but it still wouldn't be the normal 11:35 slot, which may or may not be important to Conan. I also wonder if an old rerun of Seinfeld will be a big enough lead in for Conan if they did go that route. I know a lot of people would watch Conan no matter where he went and what time his show was on, but networks have to think of the big picture with things like this. It's never going to be as simple as "he's going to Fox". 1/19/2010 8:43:34 AM |
nothing22 All American 21537 Posts user info edit post |
maybe i've become too new-school or i really don't care, but it seems like networks put A LOT of stock in 11pm local news
can anyone explain? everything i've read make 11pm local news sound like the the-must-watch event of the night
[Edited on January 19, 2010 at 8:56 AM. Reason : traditionalist thinking? Ø] 1/19/2010 8:52:32 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
it is, for people who still don't get their news from the internet
conan's core audience however, doesn't give a shit about the 11pm news. 1/19/2010 8:57:51 AM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
^^Yeah, I don't get it either. I also don't understand how with DVR and this newfangled device called a remote that allows people to change the channel whenever they want without having to waddle over to the TV that the lead-in shows matter as much as they used to. Is it really that much of a stretch to think that people can watch one show on NBC at 9:00 and then change the channel to Fox at 10:00?
^Well, like I said, Conan's core audience is going to watch him no matter what. They're trying to get the masses to watch, which I guess means every little thing counts. Like lead-ins and competing against the local news.] 1/19/2010 8:58:22 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
here's the story: affiliates make their big money from local news because they only have to run local commercials. if their lead-in to the local news is bad, they make much less money. after too long of this, they could potentially not carry whatever the bad national show is and do early local news, or ditch that network altogether for a different network. 1/19/2010 9:07:00 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Fox's local news ends at 10:30" |
i don't know how it is in raleigh, but it lasts from 10-11 in greensboro, followed by an hour of seinfeld re-runs starting at 111/19/2010 9:09:02 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103353 Posts user info edit post |
put him on fox primetime somewhere
with what the let American Cleveland Guy get way with Conan should have free reign 1/19/2010 9:09:57 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
it's from 10-10:30 here in charlotte followed by, i think, the simpsons
^isn't that experiment the whole reason we are here in the first place?
[Edited on January 19, 2010 at 9:11 AM. Reason : add] 1/19/2010 9:11:17 AM |
nothing22 All American 21537 Posts user info edit post |
the local commericials argument, while sarijoul is right, is dumb to me 1/19/2010 9:13:11 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103353 Posts user info edit post |
^^yes, but they put leno's lame ass on early instead of conan's
there's only so long a typos in newspapers retain any kind of amusement
[Edited on January 19, 2010 at 9:17 AM. Reason : leno currently falls somewhere between chevy chase and magic johnson on the talk show host scale] 1/19/2010 9:16:13 AM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.thrfeed.com/2010/01/vegas-odds-say-conan-goes-to-fox.html 1/20/2010 9:51:03 AM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
well shit, if vegas odds say so!
[Edited on January 20, 2010 at 3:38 PM. Reason : -185 to +200 lol] 1/20/2010 3:21:42 PM |
ENDContra All American 5160 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^Yeah, I don't get it either. I also don't understand how with DVR and this newfangled device called a remote that allows people to change the channel whenever they want without having to waddle over to the TV that the lead-in shows matter as much as they used to. Is it really that much of a stretch to think that people can watch one show on NBC at 9:00 and then change the channel to Fox at 10:00?" |
The entire ratings system is, to some extent, still stuck in the 50s. Up until a couple of years ago, you would be denied of being a Nielsen household if you had a DVR or HDTV (thats when they Nielsens were fully stuck in the 50s). In regards to the quote above, the thinking is that most people arent thinking "Im going to watch Chuck at 8 and then flip to 24 at 9". They think that most people have no idea what a tv schedule is, and if a show is somewhat interesting, people will just roll with it and not bother to change a channel. The goal is for you to not change the channel...ever. The importance of a late night show like The Tonight Show, for example, is not about getting ratings at midnight, but mostly to keep you on NBC when you go to bed, so that when you wake up in the morning, your TV is already tuned to The Today Show.1/20/2010 4:00:27 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
I was familiar with most of that ^, but I wonder how stuff like Hulu factors in (if at all)? I watch Conan on a fairly regular basis off of Hulu but hardly ever live on TV. I have a feeling more of Conan's audience DVRs his show and watches him on Hulu etc. than Leno's does. 1/20/2010 4:07:37 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
That's interesting. It all makes sense in a way, but in today's world it's spectacularly retarded. Especially when you consider that every Time Warner Box defaults to their local news channel every time you turn it on. 1/20/2010 6:39:10 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Especially when you consider that every Time Warner Box defaults to their local news channel every time you turn it on." |
You know you can change that right?1/20/2010 7:26:03 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
mine defaulted to channel 2 every time. took me like a year to realize i could change it 1/20/2010 7:52:44 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You know you can change that right?" |
You do know the meaning of the word default right?1/20/2010 7:57:26 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
who turns their cable box off frequently enough for this to be a problem? 1/20/2010 8:57:37 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
The biggest flaw of every single person on this board, along with virtually every single person I've spoken with about this, is that they have absolutely no clue about how retarded the average network television viewer is. 1/20/2010 8:59:50 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
^^Anyone with a universal remote? 1/20/2010 10:09:49 PM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
conan on prime-time would not work. one of the reasons jay's show did so bad (apart from him being god-awful) was the fact that other networks wouldn't let their stars appear on a show that aired during prime-time because it would take away from that networks viewing lineup. that little fact alone, to me, is the most damning piece of evidence that nbc clearly failed to project the inevitable failure of the jay leno show (or maybe it was their long term goal of having him re-gain the tonight show).
http://www.broadcastingcable.com/article/366971-Jay_Leno_Talks_Back_An_Exclusive_Interview_With_B_C.php
[Edited on January 21, 2010 at 1:46 AM. Reason : ] 1/21/2010 1:46:14 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Conan got a decent sized buyout (33M & 12M to his staff) 1/21/2010 9:20:30 AM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20338301,00.html
Apparently he lost Triumph 1/21/2010 12:59:07 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
lol, this is gonna be a good show 1/21/2010 11:43:17 PM |
Wyloch All American 4244 Posts user info edit post |
He truly loves his craft. 1/21/2010 11:49:56 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
no way that's real, but
hahahahaha 1/21/2010 11:57:24 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
robin williams = worst penultimate guest ever 1/22/2010 12:20:04 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
yeah he's pretty annoying. goes off on crazy, unfunny tangents constantly 1/22/2010 12:21:27 AM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
robin seemed better than most times he has been on. he only seems to be funny when slightly angry 1/22/2010 12:23:43 AM |
mbguess shoegazer 2953 Posts user info edit post |
you guys are nuts. robin is awesome when given the chance to go off on tangents. 1/22/2010 12:27:11 AM |
Dammit100 All American 17605 Posts user info edit post |
wtf is with manilow lookin all nervous and twitchy? 1/22/2010 12:27:37 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
cocaine's a hell of a drug 1/22/2010 12:29:12 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2010/01/ut_oh_jay_someone_has_a_good_m.php 1/22/2010 12:42:09 AM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
nice. 1/22/2010 12:53:03 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
what if conan tried going for syndication? Then stations in local markets can pick him up individually and figure out what to do with their local news programs without letting a network be involved. 1/22/2010 11:39:50 AM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
It worked for Arsenio. Kind of. 1/22/2010 3:10:24 PM |
rjrumfel All American 22986 Posts user info edit post |
As long as they dont screw with Craig Ferguson, I dont care where he goes 1/22/2010 8:44:16 PM |
ShawnaC123 2019 Egg Champ 46681 Posts user info edit post |
I never realized how much people care about late night tv. 1/22/2010 8:58:43 PM |
Wyloch All American 4244 Posts user info edit post |
^ Mmhmm, it's a great American tradition. 1/22/2010 11:49:28 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
that was an awesome ending haha. 1/23/2010 12:39:40 AM |
jokar2694 All American 801 Posts user info edit post |
if will ferrell wasnt in it then yes it would have been decent. also if jimmy wasnt on after that would have helped. 1/23/2010 12:40:51 AM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
meh, I definitely agree Ferrell is way played out but he didn't detract much there; the cowbell was ok too. It was just fun to see Conan rocking out and enjoying himself. That was awesome in itself. 1/23/2010 12:47:20 AM |
jokar2694 All American 801 Posts user info edit post |
^ it would have been awesome to have everybody out there rocking out. but will has to be the center of attention on Conan's last show. so he brings back a skit from awhile back to try and get laughs, and then gets right up into the camera, or makes out with preggers. he is a faggot and i hate him. 1/23/2010 12:53:20 AM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10246 Posts user info edit post |
he dropped some knowledge right before the musical number though 1/23/2010 1:38:06 AM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
ferrell wasn't bad. it was fun. conan was loving it. get a fucking grip, guy. 1/23/2010 1:43:34 AM |
Rat Soup All American 7669 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder why beck was playing with them.
and this is pretty awesome. the old guy eating a donut is a regular on tim and eric awesome show great job
[Edited on January 23, 2010 at 2:45 AM. Reason : video] 1/23/2010 2:38:50 AM |