...is the best college basketball conference in the nation.


Discuss.

2/5/2010 7:09:29 AM

Shit people already knew ITT

2/5/2010 10:16:20 AM

Mortal Kombat for Sega Genesis is the best video game ever

2/5/2010 10:20:19 AM

Ken Pomeroy and Jeff Sagarin both say it's the ACC first, B12 second, and Big East third..

2/5/2010 10:22:11 AM

they're beating each other up

USF and Seton Hall need to stop pulling upsets

2/5/2010 10:23:00 AM

16 team conference ITT

2/5/2010 10:31:57 AM

everyone knows the acc isn't that great this year....but the talent that we're pulling in next year, especially guards, should raise the level of play quite significantly

2/5/2010 12:32:08 PM

titles this decade, by conference:

Big East: 2
SEC: 2
Big 12: 1
ACC: 5

ACC is still king

4/8/2010 2:05:29 PM

What a retarded thread...

4/8/2010 2:11:24 PM

Big 10: wah-wah-waaaaaaa

4/8/2010 2:11:52 PM

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"Mortal Kombat for Sega Genesis is the best video game ever"

I disagree, it's a very good game, but I think Donkey Kong is the best game ever.

4/8/2010 3:00:11 PM

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"I disagree, it's a very good game, but I think Donkey Kong is the best game ever."

Donkey Kong SUCKS!

4/8/2010 3:04:13 PM

You know something? YOU SUCK!

4/8/2010 3:07:32 PM

well played

4/8/2010 9:59:59 PM

way to show up Louisville

BIG EAST! BIG EAST! BIG EAST!

3/17/2011 4:28:20 PM

Louisville added +1 to Charles Barkley's credibility after West Virginia had -1

3/17/2011 4:30:26 PM

the Big East is good in the regular season. Tournament time.... not so much.

3/17/2011 4:38:43 PM

pitt's even letting unca hang. turrible.

3/17/2011 4:40:19 PM

^^yeah lets just rank every team in the top 25 and then when they lose its because they are playing all ranked teams

3/17/2011 5:05:04 PM

of course, the other argument is that their conference tournament is a week long. uconn played what, like 5 games last week?

3/17/2011 5:06:33 PM

I have het to see a stat where the title matches the post

3/17/2011 5:53:58 PM

^^yeah, and the best teams only have to play 3 days to win it all, just like in the ACC

to me the BE is always overrated to me


[Edited on March 18, 2011 at 12:08 AM. Reason : .]

3/18/2011 12:07:34 AM

Big 10 sucks, too.

3/18/2011 12:18:20 AM

why is pikey allowed to post in sports talk?

3/18/2011 8:08:45 AM

lolol

3/18/2011 4:35:28 PM

Fuck Big East ball.

3/18/2011 7:24:52 PM

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"^^yeah, and the best teams only have to play 3 days to win it all, just like in the ACC"

That's kind of silly. UConn would have easily finished third, at worst in the ACC this year. Have you seen them play? It's nuts they lost 9 games in conference but were undefeated OOC (it's not like they played a typical Virginia Tech type OOC either -- true road game in Austin, neutral court against Kentucky, home game against Tennesee, etc, etc).

Big East isn't the best conference in the world this year but it's still the best relative to the rest of college bball and it's not even really close in 2011.

And Twista is the king of hyperbole.

3/18/2011 10:31:24 PM

vcu takes down gtown.

3/19/2011 12:24:04 AM

I guess Bilas and them were right about UAB but not VCU

3/19/2011 12:28:01 AM

So far we have:
(1) Pittsburgh
(2) Notre Dame
(3) UConn
(3) Syracuse
(4) Louisville
(5) West Virginia
(6) Georgetown
(6) St. Johns
(6) Cincinatti
(9) Villanova
(11)Marquette

3/19/2011 12:33:43 AM

The only real surprising loss was Louisville. That was inexcusable but a healthy Knowles is important -- still need to win that game. Georgetown and St. John's each lost their second best player down the stretch. I know Wright came back, but he wasn't close to the same player.

Villanova sucked the last half of the year. No real surprise there. It kind of sucks that they had so many teams in that two more teams will automatically be out by the time the weekend ends since they play conference teams.

3/19/2011 7:46:50 AM

Using the number of conference titles as your sole, or even major ranking point doesn't make a lot of sense. The ACC is very top-heavy with Duke and UNC. Once you get past those guys there is a significant dropoff. (I do realize Maryland accounted for one of their titles, but that was kind of a fluke, and look at where they are now).

However in the Big East, there are probably 10 teams that had a legitimate shot at winning the Big East Championship. I imagine if there was a ACC/Big East Challenge, then after the Duke/UNC games, it would get really ugly for the ACC.

3/19/2011 10:11:52 AM

^^ Sucks? It guarantees at least 2 sweet 16 berths.

[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 10:14 AM. Reason : ]

3/19/2011 10:13:29 AM

I don't like the idea, in general, of having to play teams you already had to face in conference and face year in and year out so early in the tournament. It could have been avoided with some legwork by the committee.

I've read it had something to do with payouts and the NCAA not wanting to give too high an amount to one conference. Of course you have to take that with a grain of salt.

3/19/2011 10:15:01 AM

The Big East teams are perennial Top 25 studs in the regular season.

But most of them shit the bed in the tournament.

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"why is pikey allowed to post in sports talk?"

3/19/2011 10:17:34 AM

Another one bites the dust!

3/19/2011 3:38:11 PM

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"Another one bites the dust!"

Yes..... so what exactly are you trying to say here?

The Big East had 11 teams, 9 of which were higher seeds than their opponents. So logically, if everything goes as seeding would suggest, the Big East would be 9-2 in the first round. So instead they go 7-4. Not great, but not really unexpected considering this is the NCAA tournament and that's what happens - good teams get upset.

So in the second round, of the 7 teams left, there are 2 "inter-conference" games, which leaves 3 games against other conferences. WVU lost a close game to a higher seeded team, and UCONN and Pitt should win, so the Big East will probably be 4-3 and have 4 teams in the Sweet 16.

I really have no idea what you are implying. Is it that there were not 11 teams deserving of an NCAA bid from the Big East? Or that the Big East is over rated? I think you'll have a tough time winning either one of those arguments. I don't think anyone is claiming that the Big East is a super power that will destroy every team they play. They're just a very strong conference from top to bottom, and there is really no other conference that can make that claim.

Upsets will happen. I am pretty confident that if Louisville and Morehead State played 100 times, that Louisville would probably win 90 of them. But Morehead State caught them on a bad day, and they played well, and the rest is history. We all know Gonzaga is a tough first round draw, and they matched up really well against St. Johns. Georgetown's effort against VCU was pathetic, and they payed for it.

So if it makes you feel better, come to this thread and post every time a Big East team loses. It's going to happen at least 5 more times, and probably 6. They may very well not have a single team in the Final Four. But that does not change the fact that they have been, and still are, the best basketball conference in 2010-2011.

3/19/2011 6:23:22 PM

I hope you didn't type this with a straight face...

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"a very strong conference from top to bottom"

3/19/2011 6:46:52 PM

^^ Big East fan.

Disclaimer: I grew up a Nova fan.

[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 6:48 PM. Reason : .]

3/19/2011 6:48:41 PM

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"I am pretty confident that if Louisville and Morehead State played 100 times, that Louisville would probably win 90 of them."

probably so

but i'm also pretty confident that if the ACC had 16 schools, we wouldve gotten more than 4 teams in

3/19/2011 6:50:01 PM

^^^ not sure what you're getting at, but all but one Big East team was in the Top 155 (yes, I know that's random but it's for a point). The only other conference that can say that is the Big XII.

They were easily the best top to bottom this year. I mean for fuck's sake 11 teams were RPI Top 75.

3/19/2011 7:22:20 PM

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" I really have no idea what you are implying. Is it that there were not 11 teams deserving of an NCAA bid from the Big East? Or that the Big East is over rated? I think you'll have a tough time winning either one of those arguments. I don't think anyone is claiming that the Big East is a super power that will destroy every team they play. They're just a very strong conference from top to bottom, and there is really no other conference that can make that claim. "

Actually I've heard many "2010 Big East is the greatest conference in the history of college basketball" arguments.

3/19/2011 7:48:39 PM

^ +1

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"So if it makes you feel better, come to this thread and post every time a Big East team loses."

k

3/19/2011 8:00:21 PM

be back shortly

/jinx

3/19/2011 8:03:44 PM

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"Actually I've heard many "2010 Big East is the greatest conference in the history of college basketball" arguments."

Depending on how you measure "best", then this is a legitimate claim. If you are measuring by number of tournament-worthy teams, then this is quite possibly true. If you are measuring by average RPI, well I don't have those stats but I'd suspect the Big East is at least close to having the best all time average RPI, but I dunno for sure. If you are measuring by average NCAA tournament performance (whatever the fuck that means), then probably not. Obviously calling this conference the greatest conference ever is really subjective, and really can't be proven or disproven.

I, on the other hand, am the single greatest poster in the history of the Wold Web, and that, my internet friends, is indisputable.

3/19/2011 8:13:53 PM

2003-4 ACC had 6 of 9 teams in the NCAA tourney, which is about the same percentage as 11 of 16.

3/19/2011 8:45:32 PM

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"I do realize Maryland accounted for one of their titles, but that was kind of a fluke, and look at where they are now"

What the hell are you talking about? The 2001-2002 Maryland team was amazing (God I hate saying that). They went 32-4, and went 15-1 in the ACC. They had returned most of their team that made the Final Four from the previous year, and were ranked #2 in the nation to start the season. There only losses were to Arizona at the beginning of the season in MSG, to Oklahoma in Norman, to Duke in Cameron, and to NC State in the ACC Tournament, where anything can happen. I don't see how anyone can say that Maryland winning the national title that year was a fluke.

Teams that win National Championships aren't immune to bad years. Just look at UConn in the past few years. If Gary Williams didn't hate kissing up to 17 year olds, which who can blame him, then they'd have better players. It's amazing that he tied for the regular season championship just last year when you compare his roster to Duke's.

3/19/2011 8:58:34 PM

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"Just look at UConn in the past few years."

??? They had two off years in ten. One when their entire team was freshman after the 2006 Elite Eight run and then last year. In 2009 they were #1 half the season and made the Final Four.

3/19/2011 9:08:51 PM

Yeah exactly what I meant. Good programs can have bad years. UConn missed the tournament two years recently in 2007 and 2010. I was using them as an example of that.

3/19/2011 9:20:54 PM

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"and UCONN and Pitt should win, so the Big East will probably be 4-3 and have 4 teams in the Sweet 16."

3/19/2011 9:24:46 PM