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2/22/2010 4:11:02 PM

and so it goes, the shelf life of a RB...

2/22/2010 4:20:51 PM

he didnt do shit for them this year...they had to

2/22/2010 4:21:53 PM

Yeah... sucks for LT but good for the Chargers I think. Maybe Carolina will shop Williams or Stewart over there to them.

2/22/2010 4:27:17 PM

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? why would they do that?!?!?!

2/22/2010 4:30:16 PM

so, do they pick up a veteran or pick up a stud with the 28th pick? i think Spiller would be a good fit, if he's still on the board

or do they make Sproles their #1 guy with Hester as the backup?

[Edited on February 22, 2010 at 4:33 PM. Reason : a]

2/22/2010 4:31:29 PM

You really only need one awesome back and then one or two serviceable 3rd down backs, and Carolina has a lot of other needs that are more important than a backup RB imo

2/22/2010 4:31:30 PM

you dont trade Stewart AT LEAST until he is close to his contract end.

we have the best tandem RB group in the NFL

breaking that up would give us no chance

You always keep one good back in case the other get hurts...

2/22/2010 4:34:09 PM

^^did you see the last 3 games of the year this past season, when Deangelo was hurt and didn't play, so Stewart stepped in and ran wild? Thats why you need two top backs.

2/22/2010 4:37:55 PM

Panthers = running team
Double Trouble = going nowhere

2/22/2010 4:39:45 PM

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"You really only need one awesome back and then one or two serviceable 3rd down backs, and Carolina has a lot of other needs that are more important than a backup RB imo"

have you not watched an NFL game for the past 3 years?

2/22/2010 4:40:03 PM

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"so, do they pick up a veteran or pick up a stud with the 28th pick? i think Spiller would be a good fit, if he's still on the board"

Spiller will be gone by then, but Dwyer will be available and he could fill that role nicely IMO.

2/22/2010 4:40:43 PM

maybe so but you dont take an unproven draft pick over an absolute BEAST like J Stew is

[Edited on February 22, 2010 at 4:41 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2010 4:40:51 PM

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"whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? why would they do that?!?!?!"

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"A former first-round pick, Tomlinson rushed for only 730 yards in 14 games last season and had a 3.3-yard rushing average"

2/22/2010 4:40:53 PM

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"Maybe Carolina will shop Williams or Stewart over there to them."

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"whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? why would they do that?!?!?!"

2/22/2010 4:42:42 PM

chargers.com removed the article

2/22/2010 5:08:18 PM

maybe they should just time travel back to when they released turner and decide not to

2/22/2010 5:11:49 PM

I think most of the league saw this coming after such a poor year and the success P. Riv had throwing the rock. LT needs a new environment, maybe he can find some rejuvenation for couple more years.


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2/22/2010 5:17:43 PM

he didnt do shit for them this year in the playoffs ever... they had to.

2/22/2010 5:36:54 PM

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"Spiller would be a good fit"

spiller would be a terrible fit. he's never been able to run through a line and the massive holes and slow outside pursuit speed that he finally took advantage of this year won't be there in the NFL.

[Edited on February 22, 2010 at 5:44 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2010 5:42:56 PM

Spiller will be gone anyway.

2/22/2010 5:57:48 PM

anyone who says the Panthers should draft a RB AND shop DeAngelo or Stewart is a fucking idiot

stop that nonsense right now

2/22/2010 6:00:56 PM

pretty sure i heard a couple of weeks ago that he wanted to be released.

he said something about not liking the vibe that the younger players were bringing to their team over the last 2 years.

[Edited on February 22, 2010 at 6:28 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2010 6:26:49 PM

your panthers need tim tebow as a ....




backup to the backup tight end. lol

2/22/2010 6:30:14 PM

i thought this thread was about lawrence taylor

2/22/2010 6:42:00 PM

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"Maybe Carolina will shop Williams or Stewart over there to them."

worst sports talk post ever

(excluding this one)

2/22/2010 6:46:59 PM

It's LdT. There's only one LT.

2/22/2010 6:47:22 PM

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"It's LdT. There's only one LT."

[Edited on February 22, 2010 at 6:49 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2010 6:49:42 PM

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"^^did you see the last 3 games of the year this past season, when Deangelo was hurt and didn't play, so Stewart stepped in and ran wild? Thats why you need two top backs."

the last 3 games I saw this past season showcased Joseph Addai and Pierre Thomas as winning rbs

i wouldnt trade either of them but in a different circumstance I could see justifying it and going into next season with the one you didnt trade and sutton

2/22/2010 7:37:42 PM

you know, i'd say theres a bit of a difference in team makeup for the teams that Joseph Addai and Pierre Thomas are on when compared to the panthers

what position would that be, what position would that be....

2/22/2010 7:48:18 PM

so what

2/22/2010 7:54:38 PM

so fucking what?


we're a RUNNING TEAM. period. end of story. it doesn't matter we have Steve Smith out there.we have no quarterback.

so what?

only 2 incredible quarterbacks who can spread the ball out and get anyone else other than a rb involved, thats what

jesus, what if we only had deangelo and goodson and deangelo went down. we'd be up shit creek. we have to have 2 1000+ yd rushers on the team to have a chance to make the playoffs.

2/22/2010 7:57:55 PM

the jets are a running team and they got to the afc championship with a QB who threw like 10 passes a game. and they dont have a single RB as good either Williams or Stewart

Again, there's no reason to trade one right now. They won't get worthwhile value. But if they could, theyd be stupid not to. There are much more important positions to fill on a team than #2 RB (or 1B, whatever you want to call it). We have two top 10 players at a position where you can get good play out of average players

If we only had Deangelo and Goodson and Deangelo went down we'd be screwed because Goodson is a shit tier RB who fumbles as much as Deshaun Foster. That's why I said Sutton. He's not good, hell I'm not even sure if he's average but behind our OLine he looked passable and you could survive with him. This is provided that the void you create by trading Stewart makes your defense better, or goes towards getting a legit QB. I don't see how we could do that next season (Moore is as good as we're going to get. imo we could much worse anyway) which is why I wouldnt do it, but it's a justifiable course of action if you can

2/22/2010 8:11:22 PM

right, the jets made it to the afc championship game

with two good backs

not one good back and some fucking wanker

the panthers can be fine with williams/stewart and moore or a competent qb, but they have to have the 2 great backs to make that work

[Edited on February 22, 2010 at 8:23 PM. Reason : dude i dont know who you are kidding. but thomas jones is legit, and so is shonn greene. ]

2/22/2010 8:22:33 PM

yeah and they also had a good defense too

2/22/2010 8:31:28 PM

the panthers have a good D. not the best D in the league but that's what happens when you spend two first round picks on RBs within a couple years of each other

greene might be good. he didnt play much for the jets until the playoffs and was a 1 year wonder in college. thomas jones is solid but he's been tossed around the league like a cheap whore and is a career 4.0 ypc guy. this is exactly my point. there are "good" RBs all over the place. you dont need two of the best

2/22/2010 8:40:15 PM

bullshit

greene was the best rookie rb

he and thomas jones were a great combo, better than your average run of the mill fill-in back

[Edited on February 22, 2010 at 8:44 PM. Reason : when they gave him the full load he went over 200yds in a game. ]

2/22/2010 8:44:12 PM

yea and maurice jones drew was the best rookie rb the first season after deangelo was drafted. there are a TON of guys you can say are good RBs. Maybe Greene ends up being a top 10 or 15 guy but I could probably list 30 that at some point or another were considered as good as Jones. You don't need TWO of the best backs in the NFL. The Giants' 2nd rb two years ago was Derrick Ward and everyone was sucking his dick about how good he was. This year he goes to Tampa and sucks. We have a good (run blocking) OLine. Put a guy who's even marginally decent behind one of Williams/Stewart who opponents have to game plan for and he'll look pretty good

2/22/2010 8:55:36 PM

He'll be missed in SD for being a great RB and human being. Too bad we didn't do anything in '06 when he peaked. And this year too, if the offense didn't choke as a whole.
To be honese I would like to see LT retire in SD, but it's a business and they may wanna get some value out of him before he's totally done. No comparison to Drew Brees cause Brees just too fucking good, against all odds.
Rivers' been playing really solid last year, so I think that's the reason they let LT go. It is Rivers' team now, he better not fuck up next year. No, I am totally over that dumb mistake.

2/22/2010 8:59:45 PM

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"It's LdT. There's only one LT."

Fuck that cokehead UNC faggot motherfucker.

Ladanian Tomlinson = LT.

2/22/2010 9:03:12 PM

you are legitimately suggesting we get rid of one of williams/stewart and pray the return helps us in other areas? what if it doesn't? and then what if an injury happens to the remaining one? hope that servicable guy is a good #1 option to go with Decori Birmingham.

and yeah, derrick ward was a good change of pace behind a great back, but then bradshaw was there too, and he had Eli having his best year of his career with Plaxico and Toomer and Shockey/Boss, and a GREAT DEFENSE. We have Matt Moore, Steve Smith, and Dwayne Jarrett.

what point are you trying to make with MJD? He is a top 5 back in the NFL

I don't get what you are trying to say, tower

2/22/2010 9:05:07 PM

i am going to do a preemptive facepalm for the inevitable "Redskins Sign Tomlinson to 7-year, $84 Million Deal"

2/22/2010 9:05:51 PM

http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=587356

2/22/2010 9:14:14 PM

mjd was the "best" rookie in his and deangelos first year. i would say deangelo is better now. drew is still really good and jacksonville fans might disagree. its just another point that there are a SHIT TON of good rbs. Who's to say Donald Brown or whoever isn't better than Shonn Greene next year?

im not saying the panthers do anything. i dont think they can trade stewart or deangelo for anything worthwhile for the very same reason that i think we could get away with only 1 of them. they just arent that valuable. it'd be like if we had jj hickson and tracy smith on this year's basketball team but for some idiotic reason they could both only play the 5 so they couldn't see the court at the same time. are you really telling me you'd rather have both of them instead of trading one of them for delaney or something like that?

ok, here's an example. the clinton portis for champ bailey trade. would you turn down deangelo for nnamdi asmougha?

2/22/2010 9:16:10 PM

gad i got so confused with this thread title at first

was wondering if Taylor went to jail for something yesterday or recently.

2/22/2010 9:18:25 PM

i think you have been playing a little too much fantasy football

i'll take great depth at a very important position

your trade scenarios are completely nonsensical

and i still dont get what you're saying about MJD. he's an elite back. there aren't tons of comparable backs to MJD running all over the place.

[Edited on February 22, 2010 at 9:29 PM. Reason : .]

2/22/2010 9:24:47 PM

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"would you turn down deangelo for nnamdi asmougha"

With asmougha's salary? Probably.

But nobody's going to make a trade like that.

[Edited on February 22, 2010 at 9:53 PM. Reason : ]

2/22/2010 9:52:46 PM

great teams always have great depth

is it really that hard to understand?

2/22/2010 9:53:51 PM

^^ Asomugha signed a 3 year $45 million last year, and if you wouldn't trade Deangelo for him you must be crazy (assuming a longer deal is worked out).

I think the Chargers would be better served getting some work done on their OL so they can open up some damn holes and then just plugging in a back they draft.

Also a rumor that I have read is that Marshawn Lynch is being shopped and he'd be a pretty damn good workhorse back for the Chargers with Sproles as a change of pace back.

2/22/2010 11:11:49 PM

cj spiller is the greatest football player ive ever seen.

2/22/2010 11:18:39 PM