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allegedly

http://bustersports.com/blog/buster-blog/2010/03/08/kentucky-violations-allegations-coming-for-john-wall-demarcus-cousins/

Take it fwiw, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out there is some truth to this at all.

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"Word seeped out today that there's an alleged "arms race" between a major online publication (think ESPN, Yahoo!, etc) and the New York Times to grab a final piece of evidence which will solidify a report that John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins are involved in some sort of violation-worthy shenanigans in Kentucky.

That's according to LEO Weekly's "The Score," where sources (in the upmost meta sense, because they are sources outing a bunch of journalists who are in the process of using sources to out basketball players, who may be outed before the ... *brain explodes*) indicate that someone in the media is close to exposing a scandal involving the UK basketball program.

From LEO's "Seedy K" (whose name could only be less reputable if it were "Shady Ball"):

I am told, though I have no personal knowledge nor evidence myself whatsoever, that the investigations concern cash money and, perhaps, real estate.

Now, before we go getting all fuzzy in the lions over the possibility of Coach Cal getting his comeuppance (because we don't do rampant rumor-mongering here, contrary to what some Tar Heel fans will tell you), there's a number of things to note/question about Seedy's article.

First, he mentions that "none of the Tobacco Road schools" were interested in Wall coming out of high school. That's just patently false. Secondly, the way in which Seedy discusses "some transgressions by UK frosh" Wall and Cousins -- the phrasing of the alleged attempt to uncover the transgressions makes it seem like Wall and Cousins did something wrong, though the illegal action at hand would -- one would think -- actually involve a booster or a coach.

In other words, disclaimers ahoy (and whatnot) for this gossip -- but if something DOES happen, and someone from a major outlet drops an allegation bomb on the Wildcats' program between now and May 2, you'll see some very interesting movement in the basketball recruiting world, particularly with respect to C.J. Leslie, who has yet to commit (and who would, one has to think, be hard-pressed to commit to a school that might be under NCAA investigation). "

3/8/2010 5:46:37 PM

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that didn't take long...

3/8/2010 5:47:42 PM

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lol

3/8/2010 5:47:59 PM

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Nothing will come of it. You can take that to the bank.

Anyway, ABC 11 just this second had the highest paid coaches in NCAA on the screen. Calipari makes DOUBLE the next highest (K). $4M and he has never officially made a Final Four... crazy.

3/8/2010 5:48:51 PM

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calipari is like an STD ... you know the risks, but cant resist the act

3/8/2010 5:51:28 PM

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i hope CJ Leslie is reading this!

3/8/2010 5:59:18 PM

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I for one, am shocked by these allegations

3/8/2010 6:09:50 PM

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If this comes to fruition, it might be enough to bring Jaybee out of TWW semi-retirement

3/8/2010 6:17:39 PM

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Didn't Callipari take Memphis to the championship game 2 years ago with derrick rose?

3/8/2010 6:22:41 PM

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hey took umass to the final four too, but none of his final four appearances count anymore because he is a cheater

3/8/2010 6:25:00 PM

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"Didn't Callipari take Memphis to the championship game 2 years ago with derrick rose?"


right, but it was vacated because Rose had someone take his SAT for him

3/8/2010 6:25:17 PM

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"i hope CJ Leslie is reading this!"


so that he knows to ask cal for a house and some dough on his next trip ??

3/8/2010 6:26:19 PM

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jaybee is a poster emeritus on tww now

3/8/2010 6:33:04 PM

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"Nothing will come of it. You can take that to the bank."

3/8/2010 6:40:32 PM

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if maurice clarett can come out and flat out say that he was paid by boosters and nothing happens to ohio state football, i don't know how people can really care what yahoo! "uncovers".

3/9/2010 12:06:01 PM

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"I for one, am shocked by these allegations"


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"Nothing will come of it. You can take that to the bank."

3/9/2010 12:42:36 PM

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i refuse to believe that a calipari run program would do anything outside of NCAA regulations.

3/9/2010 1:47:38 PM

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The only thing we can hope for is the NCAA is pissed at the shenanigans that calipari is pulling and will nail him for his bullshit...

3/9/2010 6:29:02 PM

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As long as Kentucky stays ahead of UNC in all time wins I don't care what happens.

3/9/2010 8:20:53 PM

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if it sways leslie to the wolfpack, i'll care.

3/9/2010 8:24:09 PM

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Holy Schnikes!

3/9/2010 8:58:14 PM

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Calipari should be banned from college basketball he is just unreal dirty and slimy. It's ridiculous he gets away with this shit. If we had Cousins and/or Wall we'd be loving nc state bball instead of loathing it. Pisses me off.

3/9/2010 9:38:06 PM

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"As long as Kentucky stays ahead of UNC in all time wins I don't care what happens."

Kansas will pass UNC by the end of the weekend.

3/9/2010 10:06:40 PM

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I hope the charges have some validity. We'll see, it's not like the NCAA to send a cash cow like UK to the slaughter. Certain schools are immune to punishment, it seems.

3/9/2010 10:34:15 PM

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Meh, I'm doubting that anything will come of this. Honestly, the author, Will Brinson, is a state fan so it's not too far of a stretch to be thinking this is an ill-fated attempt to sway CJ Leslie in time for the next round of commitments.

3/10/2010 4:11:38 AM

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with our luck, it will sway Leslie to be a Tarheel.

3/10/2010 2:20:15 PM

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nothing will happen, they still haven't acted on the USC/Bush issues either....

3/10/2010 3:28:55 PM

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^wrong

they just had the hearing on it, the outcome and penalties will be announced within 4 weeks.

3/10/2010 3:41:10 PM

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^ Why the hell does it take so long. The allegations against Bush came out while he was senior. The fucking NCAA is a joke.

I hope Bush gets stripped of his Heisman trophy, USC loses the national championship they won while he was there, and that they get put on probation for 5+ years. Fuck that program and their monopolizing the West Coast.

3/10/2010 4:01:29 PM

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the NCAA has absolutely nothing to do with the FB championship or the heisman trophy. and if you're really asking why it took so long, how about you actually read up on all the shit that happened and the hurdles the NCAA had to overcome to get where they are with it instead of just bitching about shit you clearly don't comprehend

[Edited on March 10, 2010 at 4:31 PM. Reason : .]

3/10/2010 4:31:06 PM

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I read up on it years ago when they had proof then....

3/10/2010 4:57:53 PM

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^^ STFU. I read the basic articles when they came out back then. I'm not wasting my time researching it. The Heisman trophy and National Championship are associated with college football which is controlled by the NCAA. The NCAA should have the power to strip USC and Bush of anything they want that was related to his time at USC.






[Edited on March 10, 2010 at 5:13 PM. Reason : m,.]

3/10/2010 5:12:23 PM

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The only thing the NCAA can strip from USC are any victories they had while Bush was there.

The Heisman Trophy is ran by a private organization. The NCAA does not control or sanction the BCS. The highest officially recognized football champion in the NCAA is the FBS, formally known as Division IAA. Since the NCAA has zero control over the Heisman or the BCS, they have no say in either matter.

3/10/2010 9:08:32 PM

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http://www.theonion.com/content/video/kentucky_violated_ncaa_rules

3/17/2010 9:49:18 AM

MrLuvaLuva85
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lol he's a good boy

3/17/2010 10:16:06 AM

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^^Bullshit they dont. If the NCAA didnt allow teams to play in BCS bowls, they couldnt. You can keep kidding yourself if you dont think the NCAA can strip a BCS title.

3/17/2010 10:17:55 AM

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NCAA Forces Memphis to Vacate Wins

MEMPHIS, Tenn. -- Memphis must vacate its record 38-win men's basketball season from 2007-08 after the NCAA rejected its appeal.

The NCAA announced Monday that its Infractions Appeal Committee ruled against Memphis, which was found to use an ineligible player, believed to be Derrick Rose. The Tigers lost in overtime to Kansas in the national title game that season.

The NCAA originally ordered Memphis to vacate the season and forfeit money on Aug. 20. Memphis had appealed, arguing the penalties were unprecedented and that the school was held to a strict liability when Rose was ruled retroactively ineligible for an SAT score that was invalidated by the Educational Testing Service in May 2008.

"The Infractions Appeals Committee found no basis to conclude that the penalty was excessive such that the Committee on Infractions had abused its discretion in imposing the penalty," the NCAA said in a release posted on its Web site.

The decision was based on a letter from the testing agency to the athlete that "not only made the student-athlete aware that his eligibility was in serious jeopardy, but that he would be declared ineligible if he did not respond to the letter," according to the committee's report to the NCAA.

That means an asterisk beside Memphis' 38-2 season that had set the NCAA record for wins in a season and approximately $615,000 in lost tournament revenue. The infractions committee originally said it struck hard because the ineligible player was used the entire season. Rose played in all 40 games, starting 39.

The university issued a statement Monday, saying it was "extremely disappointed" and "strongly disagrees" with the decision.

Memphis also asked the NCAA to take several steps to avoid this kind of problem in the future.

The university wants the NCAA to require the Educational Testing Service to notify universities of any investigations of student-athletes, something officials want the NCAA to start immediately to work out a plan to do just that. And Memphis wants the NCAA Eligibility Center to provide guidance and keep both schools and student-athletes informed on test score questions.

Memphis also endorsed the appeal committee's decision requiring the Committee on Infractions to explicitly state evidence supporting each penalty imposed on programs in the future.

"Without an open dialogue about ongoing issues, the University of Memphis and other NCAA members have less confidence in the abilities of the NCAA and ETS to work productively on behalf of student-athletes and the universities they represent," Memphis president Shirley Raines said in a statement.

"This issue requires immediate attention by both organizations."


http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=5018281

3/22/2010 3:05:50 PM

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^ Good. Now start enforcing all rules like that equally at all NCAA institutions.

3/22/2010 3:14:54 PM

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don't feel any kind of bad for memphis, but don't expect anything similar to happen to one of the ncaa's "storied" programs

3/22/2010 3:17:31 PM

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And of course, the NCAA punishes Memphis 100%, and Calipari 0%

Clearly John Calipari was ignorant to the test scores and its 100% Memphis' fault

3/22/2010 3:26:33 PM

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Yeah, but Memphis has learned their lesson

They'll never hire John Calipari again!

3/22/2010 3:30:55 PM

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Marcus Camby says...."SUCKERS!!! Y'all missed out on the best part!"

3/22/2010 3:31:11 PM

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"don't expect anything similar to happen to one of the ncaa's "storied" programs
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really?

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"Kentucky was already on probation stemming from an extensive scheme of payments to recruits, and the NCAA seriously considered hitting the Wildcats with the "death penalty", which would have shut down the entire basketball program (as opposed to simply being banned from postseason play) for up to two years. However, school president David Roselle forced Sutton and athletic director Cliff Hagan to resign. The Wildcats were slapped with three years' probation, a two-year ban from postseason play and a ban from live television in 1989–90."


[Edited on March 22, 2010 at 3:43 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2010 3:43:28 PM

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^it takes a lot of obvious and major infractions to punish a storied program. They sweep as much under the rug as they can, but even they too have a threshold.

3/22/2010 4:00:47 PM

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^^you're using an example from 20 years ago and thinking it absolves the NCAA of overlooking violations of storied programs?

[Edited on March 22, 2010 at 6:46 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2010 6:45:35 PM

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Two weeks later, is there ANY new information about this?

Anything?

3/22/2010 6:57:12 PM

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The basketball department of the NCAA is a little busy right now.

3/23/2010 12:48:23 PM

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NCAA now hot on Bledsoe's trail as he needed a ridiculous GPA jump in one year of high school to qualify according to the NY Times.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/29/sports/ncaabasketball/29recruit.html?hp

6/3/2010 11:31:57 AM

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http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/02/university-of-kentucky-basketball-sec-ncaa-probe/

nothing new...just different people reporting now

7/2/2010 2:29:09 PM

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"Under N.C.A.A. rules, it is not permissible for a high school student’s family to receive rent money from a public school coach."


NCAA rules are awfully specific...

7/2/2010 2:42:31 PM

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