wat?

Quote :

"Research Triangle Park, N.C. — Networking giant Cisco (Nasdaq: CSCO) will unveil news Tuesday that it says “will forever change the Internet.” The company is touting the news as an "adrenaline boost" for the Net. "Change is about to set your network's pulse racing in 3... 2... 1...," Cisco Web site read Tuesday morning. "Cisco's next innovation will help service providers prepare for the future by delivering anywhere to anywhere experiences." Shares in Cisco rose Monday on other news as well. JP Morgan initiated coverage of the stock with an "Overweight" rating. Near Monday's close, Cisco shares gained $1.15, or 4.5 percent, at $26.36 – a 52-week high in heavy trading. More than 116 million shares were traded, close to three times the daily volume of 47 million. Cisco closed at $26.13. Cisco wouldn’t disclose details about the announcement, which is set for 10 a.m. EST. However, reports have circulated that Cisco plans to announce its own broadband plan to counter Google’s ultrafast plan for a 1-gigabit speed network."

http://www.wral.com/business/story/7191795/

now google fiber will never come... grats

3/9/2010 10:34:55 AM

did i miss something? was the news press release about 35 minutes ago? what's so awesome?

3/9/2010 10:36:41 AM

Cisco has announced new technology that will block nerds from seeing incredible, cool-people-only content like the image below:

3/9/2010 10:42:05 AM

haha man wow it would suck not to be able to see that cool ass image.

3/9/2010 10:42:53 AM

oh, cool! cisco is...going to offer wireless high-speed intarweb? how revolutionary!

3/9/2010 10:45:54 AM

I'll give you the insider info that I have.

Cisco has been acquired in a hostile takeover by 4chan.

I think it's pretty clear how this will change the internet forever.

[Edited on March 9, 2010 at 11:37 AM. Reason : V that's the real scoop]

3/9/2010 11:28:26 AM

http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html

Quote :

" With more than 12 times the traffic capacity of the nearest competing system, the Cisco CRS-3 ..."

Quote :

" The Cisco CRS-3 triples the capacity of its predecessor, the Cisco CRS-1 Carrier Routing System, with up to 322 Terabits per second"

i have no idea what's going on. a 3-12 factor scale doesn't impress me all that much though, if cisco's saying it will "forever change the internet."

[Edited on March 9, 2010 at 11:42 AM. Reason : .]

3/9/2010 11:35:39 AM

I think when it's referring to competing systems, they're referring to other vendors.


The increased capacity is one aspect of the product, but the more important functionality is the upper layer services (i.e. cloud computing, data center integration), significantly reduced power consumption, and several other features I don't really know anything about yet.

I don't really see this as a game changer, to be honest. But, it does blow all of our competitors in this space out of the water. Juniper ain't got shit on this. The timing of the announcement is also key. We're right at the beginning of the next SP upgrade cycle, so this should sell well, and be a sales driver for other high end products that integrate with this.

3/9/2010 11:53:47 AM

I agree ...

One day, "Cisco" will come out with a great "internet changing" innovation ...

but this is just another big freakin router ....

granted, it is a pretty amazing tech innovation ... but its not really "internet changing", imho.

3/9/2010 11:56:58 AM

In reality how useful is 322 tbps? Its not across a single link, its aggregate over the system right? Do people really push that much data through single locations?

3/9/2010 12:23:06 PM

leeloo dallas multicast

3/9/2010 12:25:48 PM

^^

Tier 1 SPs would. they can't now, but they push existing infrastructure as close to the limits as they can. I mean, you can accomplish the same thing with a shitload of routers, but rack space, power consumption, admin and support overhead become extremely costly.

[Edited on March 9, 2010 at 12:57 PM. Reason : .]

3/9/2010 12:56:39 PM

20x 10GigE interfaces on a line card

3/9/2010 1:17:32 PM

^^ so does cisco want to see these more in say, time warner's edge datacenters? I mean a tier 1 datacenter consolidating existing routers into one device is cool and all, but not game changing. I could only see this really being a huge deal if it got closer to users.

3/9/2010 1:35:58 PM

oh, i get it now



THIS IS CRAZY!

3/9/2010 1:50:39 PM

Yeah, we should fire whatever marketing people were in charge of this product launch ... buzzkill anyone?

V ... "cisco must be hurting" rolling in the dough, to be able to spend money on such a shotty marketing scheme unchecked.


[Edited on March 9, 2010 at 1:56 PM. Reason : .]

3/9/2010 1:53:15 PM

^^ the light at the end of the tunnel is what makes it so clear for me!

cisco must be hurting if they're relying on marketing gimmicks to make a fairly uninspiring announcement seem like a blessing from the intarweb gods

[Edited on March 9, 2010 at 2:01 PM. Reason : carats...but yeah ^]

3/9/2010 1:53:42 PM

"Shoddy."

3/9/2010 2:23:25 PM

Maybe now I'll have an provider that won't be able to pass the buck to the router company when I call about a problem with my internet...cuz its the same company.

3/9/2010 2:50:24 PM

^ wait what?

3/9/2010 3:33:18 PM

i think it's a reference to that line in the OP

Quote :

" reports have circulated that Cisco plans to announce its own broadband plan to counter Google’s ultrafast plan for a 1-gigabit speed network"

which didn't happen

3/9/2010 3:36:17 PM

Quote :

"I don't really see this as a game changer, to be honest."

3/9/2010 4:14:43 PM

maybe if twc installs these they can offer a somewhat decent data rate to their customers...

3/10/2010 8:48:10 AM

yeah, a potential impact of this is that bandwidth will get cheaper and theoretically, broadband ISPs can either lower their pricepoints or increase bandwidth for end customers without increasing price, thus opening the market even further for rich media over the internet technology.

however, the reality of it is that any cost savings will be passed on to the execs in terms of salary and bonus.

3/10/2010 8:57:20 AM

-completely off topic-

Will these be built in the USA? can Cisco keep the patents for this technology or is some Indian firm going to buy one, strip it down, and compete in the next year or so?

It always seems like great innovations get invented, then they are stamped out in a china factory. Creating no jobs here.

3/10/2010 8:57:55 AM

no idea. we manufacture shit all over the world, including in the US. Even for stuff in that is made the US, the various components (PCBs, FPGAs, controllers) are sourced from manufacturers all over the world, much like with auto makers.

3/10/2010 9:05:47 AM

On actually reading on this, its just an upgrade to the CRS-1. So if you have one, you pay Cisco some money, and you get a better router, with all your existing stuff still working.

Also cisco marketing is not real networking. Divide that number by 2, so you really get 161, and thats just across the box/boxgrid itself. They count both up and download.

3/10/2010 11:55:04 AM

What the fuck is the internet?

3/10/2010 12:25:21 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg

3/10/2010 12:32:39 PM

i lol'd

[Edited on March 10, 2010 at 12:38 PM. Reason : i must look for more episodes]

3/10/2010 12:37:52 PM

Cisco manufactures some products in the US? I find that hard to believe.

3/10/2010 3:50:15 PM

BUT WILL IT RUN CRYSIS?

3/10/2010 3:50:39 PM

Quote :

"On actually reading on this, its just an upgrade to the CRS-1."

Personally, I'd rather have an update to KRS-1.

3/10/2010 4:13:40 PM

^^

Why is that hard to believe? Most of our non-commodity components are manufactured in Austin, TX by flextronics.

3/10/2010 4:16:56 PM

Produced in the US just seems odd for a telecom even using a contract manufacturer. Is it like 3 guys in austin receiving shipments from Guadalajara?

3/10/2010 6:23:52 PM

someone has to put the screws in

3/10/2010 6:27:53 PM

2015: All cisco routers become self aware.

3/10/2010 6:40:50 PM

Quote :

"The Cisco CRS-3 is currently in field trials, and its pricing starts at $90,000 U.S. "

To say that number is misleading is an understatement

Quote :

"representing more than 12 times the capacity of any other core router in the industry"

What router are they basing this claim on? Maybe the t640, but the math doesn't add up for the t1600.

3/10/2010 7:20:32 PM

T1000, fool.

3/11/2010 12:22:54 AM

yeah ... 90k is for the fan tray You can start with that if you want to build one piece by piece.

Really though ... fully populated, I was pretty sure that these things were well over 1M.

3/11/2010 8:07:01 AM

haha, yeah I saw that too and was like haha 90k my ass.

an empty chassis is probably 90k.

then an additional 90k per port.

I remember back when I was a co-op and we got our first GSRs in the CPOC lab I was unpacking some linecards, tripped and sent an OC-192 linecard flying (this was like 1999). My boss at the time informed me that I had basically just totaled a Ferrari-- those things had a list price of $150k each. I nearly had a code brown, but then he just laughed it off.

3/11/2010 9:04:28 AM

jesus I hope that was an internal team that made that "graph" and not a real graphic designer

3/11/2010 9:20:08 AM

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

I GIVE YOU

THE INTERNET

3/11/2010 9:25:45 AM

^^^ Bobby, did that my first week at calo. 750k worth of stuff in a 6500, shorted the backplane, fried the whole box and a full set of cards.

3/11/2010 9:46:20 AM

^^LMAO IT Crowd FTW

3/11/2010 9:57:52 AM

i wonder how much the markup is on those things if they're all "heh, whatev" when you wreck a $150k piece.

3/11/2010 10:07:53 AM

from a pure manufacturing cost, the markup would make you


factoring in R&D adds a lot to the cost, but the margins are still ridiculously high.

3/11/2010 11:19:29 AM

I think the cost to the internal lab group is like 40% of list price, from what I remember

3/11/2010 9:33:51 PM

anyone who has done any hardware R&D has broken expensive equipment/boards. just the nature of the beast!

3/11/2010 10:24:48 PM

i've done hardware R&D and never even touched a physical device....

3/11/2010 10:33:06 PM