http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4461

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"Star Wars Blu-ray Set in the Works Posted April 17, 2010 08:10 PM by Juan Calonge 20th Century FoxDuring a panel at the C2E2 comic convention in Chicago, Steve Sansweet, Lucasfilm's Director of Content Management and Head of Fan Relations, stated that the company has been working on a Star Wars Blu-ray set. "We have been at work for a couple of years working on—I won't call it the Ultimate Set because we keep finding stuff—but, a very full set of all six movies on Blu-ray with lots of extra material", said Sansweet. Sansweet didn't give a date, but he said " it won't be in the too distant future." The Digital Bits, quoting industry sources, says that Lucasfilm "tentatively plans the official Blu-ray release to happen in October 2011." Obviously, with the Alien Anthology coming later this year, a 2010 release of Star Wars can be safely ruled out, and considering that A New Hope opened theatrically in May 1977, late 2011 would be a natural choice for a 35th Anniversary Edition Anthology."

4/18/2010 4:21:20 PM

(unless it has restored versions of the goddamned original movies)

[Edited on April 18, 2010 at 4:25 PM. Reason : ]

4/18/2010 4:24:32 PM

yea they better do a damn good job, but I only want the Trilogy. Fuck the other movies. Just give us stills of Portman

4/18/2010 4:35:03 PM

Steve Sansweet is like the Lee Fowler of Lucasfilm.

4/18/2010 5:26:22 PM

Wow, three horrible movies and three great movies turned into horrible movies. Awesome!

4/18/2010 5:38:04 PM

So apparently, Lucasfilm already has 1080p masters of the original trilogy, made as part of the work on the 2004 DVD release. These are what have been airing in HD on TV. I seriously doubt they are going to do anything other than put those masters right on the Blu-ray as is.

It's a shame because there are a lot of documented flaws with that release, and a Blu-ray release would be a great time to fix them. Ideally they would go back to the original camera negative and produce new masters. Unfortunately, Lucas has already pretty much said he his never doing that again, since he was "happy" with the final 1080p masters.

4/18/2010 5:38:28 PM

I need a nerd to explain to me whats so bad about the original trilogy remastered?

4/18/2010 5:51:22 PM

i am from... the dagoba system

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

4/18/2010 5:53:46 PM

I wonder how much this puppy will cost? $120 for all 6 movies?

4/18/2010 6:01:30 PM

^^^ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_shot_first

4/18/2010 6:03:54 PM

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"I need a nerd to explain to me whats so bad about the original trilogy remastered?"

nothing would be wrong with that. they did it for the '95 vhs release and it was good.

then in '97, they took those cleaned up masters and made the special editions.
the special editions did a few really good things (cleaned up special effects, made cloud city look fucking awesome) but in turn did a bunch of horrible things (greedo shooting first, terrible cgi jabba, lame wampa, the embarrassing musical number in jedi, and ruining the ewok celebration song.)

they put the special editions out on dvd and then a few years of people bitching later they put out the "originals" as an afterthought on the new dvd set. But those weren't the cleaned up remasters from 95, they were a shitty transfer of the 80s laserdiscs.

what hardcore fans want is a completely new remaster of the original films with no changes whatsoever.

what I, as a casual fan, want is the '97 version's cleaned up visuals (I'm even ok with the various cgi junk they added to the background in lots of places) but without any of the plot/scene changes.
there are independently edited pirate copies that are like that, but an official release would be nice.

[Edited on April 18, 2010 at 8:33 PM. Reason : ]

4/18/2010 8:28:06 PM

I would like a version where Luke didn't sound like a whiny bitch the entire fucking time.

Bonus points if there's an optional soundtrack that has Hamill re-record all Luke's lines in the voice of The Joker.

4/18/2010 8:33:36 PM

ok, yeah, that'd be pretty awesome

[Edited on April 18, 2010 at 8:34 PM. Reason : ]

4/18/2010 8:34:20 PM

4/18/2010 9:56:21 PM

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=586168&page=1

Star Wars film reviews.

Fuck Lucas

4/18/2010 10:21:20 PM

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"then in '97, they took those cleaned up masters and made the special editions. the special editions did a few really good things (cleaned up special effects, made cloud city look fucking awesome) but in turn did a bunch of horrible things (greedo shooting first, terrible cgi jabba, lame wampa, the embarrassing musical number in jedi, and ruining the ewok celebration song.) "

Plus they took out the green chick's tit popping out of her outfit while being dragged towards the rancor pit.

My VCR's slow motion feature got a lot of work from that scene when I was a kid.

4/19/2010 9:01:15 PM

Unfortunately I'm not sure they'll ever release the "original" versions of NH, ESB, and ROTJ in anything more than an add-on novelty to a larger set.

The "special editions" have now become official canon of Lucasfilm, and are considered the only official versions of each film. With that, things like Greedo shooting first are technically now the official story line, at least as far as Lucas is concerned. That's also why (if you have the 2-disc set released containing the un-edited versions) the un-edited versions are labeled as "theatrical releases."

What would be perfect is if Lucasfilm went ahead and blew its entire load on this set by placing the "special editions"/prequels on 6 separate discs, the un-edited originals on each of their own discs, and then have 1-2 full blu-rays of bonus content. If that were the case, you name the price and I'll pay it.

There is plenty in the redone versions that bothers me, but as a true fan, I don't consider any of it to completely ruin any of the movies for me. Why let the aweseomeness that is the original trilogy be ruined by roughly 10 minutes of newer scenes? I've just never understood the position of people that act like those short changes are enough to piss in their entire bowl of cereal.

No matter what the picture is like, I for one can't wait to have full, uncompressed audio tracks paired with each movie...

4/21/2010 10:15:00 AM

He'll probably release the special edition versions for the initial blu-ray release, then he'll get everyone to buy the set again by releasing the theatrical release on blu-ray a year or two later.

I'm pretty sure he knows that everyone would rather have the theatrical release and purposely exploits that to his advantage. Just come out with statements like "the original copies were edited" and "there is only the special editions". Get people to buy what they feel is the inferior product, then provide the superior product once sales start to level off, knowing full well that the die hards will jump at the chance to get what they really wanted all along. Of course I'm not saying anything new here. It's business.

4/21/2010 10:49:45 AM

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"There is plenty in the redone versions that bothers me, but as a true fan, I don't consider any of it to completely ruin any of the movies for me. Why let the aweseomeness that is the original trilogy be ruined by roughly 10 minutes of newer scenes? I've just never understood the position of people that act like those short changes are enough to piss in their entire bowl of cereal."

Agreed. The one and only thing I'd change would be the scene in the cantina where Han shoots first.

4/21/2010 2:28:32 PM

the musical number in ROTJ is painful

and the chopping of han they had to do to make the new jabba scene in ANH work is awful

everything else i can deal with, even though the extra cgi animals in mos eisley are like HEY LOOK AT ME I'M NEW LOOK LOOK THERE'S A DEWBACK OMG

4/21/2010 3:09:00 PM

Special Edition Blu Ray for the Prequel Trilogy should have a "remove Jar-Jar Binks" option and a "Replace Hayden Christensen's voice with James Earl Jones" option.

[Edited on April 21, 2010 at 3:10 PM. Reason : Yes it would be ridiculous, but would it be any MORE ridiculous?]

4/21/2010 3:10:13 PM

I would much rather have the edited trilogy, it just looks better. Why wouldn't you want it.



[Edited on April 21, 2010 at 3:30 PM. Reason : .]

4/21/2010 3:30:21 PM

i'd like to see 2 versions of the original trilogy (original, remastered) and the other 3....

4/21/2010 3:51:35 PM

^^ i'll take translucent snowspeeder bulkheads if i don't have to see that shitty wampa

4/21/2010 3:58:47 PM

This might be interesting to the nerdier among you:

http://secrethistoryofstarwars.com/savingstarwars.html

A lot of it is old news about the SEs, etc. but some of the info about the 2004 DVD release was new to me - especially the extent to which George almost doesn't seem to understand all of this digital technology he champions.

4/22/2010 3:49:52 AM

like THX

4/22/2010 12:48:55 PM

tttt

8/30/2011 9:09:58 PM

^thanks

Apparently Lucas found a new way to shit all over the Star Wars saga.

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Star-Wars-Blu-Ray-Adds-Darth-Vader-Screaming-Nooo-As-He-Kills-The-Emperor-26504.html

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"io9 has discovered, and Badass Digest has confirmed, that in the new version of Return of the Jedi Darth Vader screams "Noooooo" as he picks up the Emperor and kills him. The audio from the scene was leaked first and someone edited it over the original scene and then uploaded it to YouTube"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGaSxSuB2vY&feature=player_embedded

8/30/2011 9:19:39 PM

That has to be a joke, right?

RIGHT???

8/30/2011 9:25:19 PM

thats ghey

8/30/2011 9:27:49 PM

NOOOOOOO

8/30/2011 9:50:01 PM

The "Special Editions" were awful. Plain and simple. Too much distracting garbage on the screen, horrendous butchering of musical parts. Not once when I was growing up did I think to myself, "Man, Cloud City would look so much better if there were some windows there!". The only redemption came when they released both versions together on dvd so I could watch Star Wars how it was supposed to be. Sadly, I think the blu-rays are just going to be redone special editions. No-fucking-thanks.

8/31/2011 1:20:11 AM

Thank god I still have my original theatrical released VHS tapes. They are my most prized possessions.

8/31/2011 7:36:52 AM

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"George Lucas explained the change by stating that he wanted to make clear to children that Han had "no choice" but to shoot Greedo. This justification was unsatisfactory to many long-time and adult fans of the series."

Fuck you, Lucas.

8/31/2011 7:40:29 AM

Haha. Because all the other scenes where someone is yelling "NO" were so good they just had to do another. Pretty sure this is just a troll attempt though.

Will I be buying yet another version of the trilogy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv666PtpD_M

[Edited on August 31, 2011 at 8:17 AM. Reason : -]

8/31/2011 8:16:45 AM

Han Solo is a fucking drug runner. He kills duders, get over it Lucas

8/31/2011 8:28:33 AM

Other known alterations: Ewoks now have eyelids, Obi-Wan's roar to scare the Sand People in ANH has been tampered with again, sound mix is more effects heavy now during space battle sequences, Sebulba is now present during the Jabba palace scenes, Jabba has had some facial expression "enhancements", CG rocks added in front of R2's canyon hiding spot in ANH, Greedo and Han now shoot at the same time, effects of Han "unfreezing" from the carbonite have been altered.

The only change that really bothers me is the new Vadar "NOOOOOO" being added to ESB, and that won't keep me from upgrading my set for the 3rd time.

[Edited on August 31, 2011 at 10:41 AM. Reason : asdf]

8/31/2011 10:40:43 AM

^

surely sir you are trolling

8/31/2011 10:51:11 AM

NEW DEWBACK

8/31/2011 11:07:02 AM

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"DO NOT WANT"

8/31/2011 11:27:15 AM

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"The only redemption came when they released both versions together on dvd so I could watch Star Wars how it was supposed to be."

No, it wasnt worth qualifying as a redemption. The theatrical version was treated as an "extra" and received a non-anamorphic transfer. I havent seen those discs, but I really doubt they look much better than my DVD copies of the 1997 laserdiscs.

8/31/2011 2:40:21 PM

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"Ewoks now have eyelids"

It's about damn time.

8/31/2011 2:57:41 PM

^^ You're probably right, but at least now I have a way of watching the correct version of Star Wars.

8/31/2011 5:24:09 PM

If Lucas was smart, he would have a theatrical and directors cut version. And the theatrical cost more as part of some special get up.

8/31/2011 9:36:56 PM

This is the only review I will be reading:

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Original-Trilogy-Blu-ray/19623/

BTW it says 6.1, is that what THX is now? Where is the 6th speaker? On the ceiling pointing down?


Here we go:

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"6.1-channel surround Although 5.1-channel is still the most popular surround format, and many of the home theater systems being sold today are 5.1-channel systems, 6.1-channel audio is also a common option. A 6.1-channel system delivers an even more enveloping surround effect than a 5.1-channel system. Let's take a look at the main options. (To see a typical 6.1-channel setup, check out the diagrams in our guide to home theater speaker placement.) DTS-ES DTS-ES™ uses existing digital multichannel technology to deliver the "5.1" channels of regular DTS, plus it adds a discrete, full-bandwidth back surround channel. Although more movies are encoded for Dolby Digital EX (see below) than for DTS-ES, there are still plenty. And today's 6.1-channel receivers are likely to have both formats. Dolby Digital EX and THX Surround EX Dolby Labs and THX collaborated to come up with their own solution to 6.1-channel surround sound, too. They do essentially the same thing, both adding a matrixed back surround channel for use in a 6.1-channel speaker system, in order to provide an even more complete 360° soundstage. (If you have a 7.1 surround system, the same audio information will go to both of your back surround speakers.) Many DVDs are encoded for Dolby Digital EX, and have that extra channel of surround information ready to go. Also, if you're playing a regular Dolby Digital 5.1-channel DVD, a Dolby Digital EX or THX Surround EX™ decoder will simulate 6.1-channel surround by processing the audio information in the discrete surround channels and sending the matrixed audio info to your back surround speaker(s) as well."

I love all these 7.1 and 6.1 setups, they do not understand a 5.1 setup gives the exact same effect if you have the proper type of speakers placed at the correct location. Having a "rear center" is just as stupid as having a L/R Side Speaker. The combination of rear left and right create a natural rear center; as does front left and rear left create a side left. I think it is just so you will spend more money. Hell most modern blu-rays have trouble even using the entire sound stage at 5.1 (minus war/action movies).






[Edited on September 3, 2011 at 2:22 PM. Reason : http://www.crutchfield.com/S-RvaIJJajqVf/learn/learningcenter/home/hometheater_surround.html?rurl=%2]

9/3/2011 1:54:12 PM

Then why is there a center front speaker?

9/3/2011 6:51:13 PM

main dialog

Left and Right front are for front ambiance sounds and loud sounds like explosions.


Rear channels are not used even closely to how front left and right are. If you are lucky in a movie 3 or 4 scenes will use the rear channels clearly while front left and right are being used constantly; as is the center channel, mainly speaking.




[Edited on September 3, 2011 at 7:03 PM. Reason : .]

9/3/2011 6:58:16 PM

Sure 2 speakers can give the effect of a single speaker between them but it's no where as accurate as just having an actual speaker there.

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"I love all these 7.1 and 6.1 setups, they do not understand a 5.1 setup gives the exact same effect if you have the proper type of speakers placed at the correct location. Having a "rear center" is just as stupid as having a L/R Side Speaker."

But it doesn't at all. Having rear or side speakers make the sound much more directional accurate. The sound is coming from a single source rather than in the middle of 2 sources.

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"The combination of rear left and right create a natural rear center; as does front left and rear left create a side left."

No it doesn't. It's not the same effect. There's too much bleed from each speaker. It doesn't sound like it's coming from the center rear it just sounds like it's coming from the entire rear.

Take gaming for instance. Gaming with 7.1 is a much better experience than 5.1. The sound is way more accurate. I don't want my side effects coming from the front left and rear left I want them coming ONLY from the left. Big difference.

9/3/2011 7:37:18 PM

As three letter acronyms go, THX is only slightly more meaningful than LOL.

9/3/2011 7:38:54 PM

^^ that is all in your opinion. I would much rather spend more money on a good set of 5.1 speakers than have to get cheaper 7.1 or 7.2. Some people can't tell the difference in Pioneer speakers in a car and Infinity. It all comes down to the end user, but to me (I've been around 5.1 and 7.1/7.2 a lot and I mean hundreds of hours) a more expensive set of 5.1 speakers will always beat a cheaper set of 7.1/7.2. In your thinking it might as well be 180.1 speakers so that nothing is a combo of 2 separate channels mixing naturally.


Speaking of THX and Lucas: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/THX-1138-Blu-ray/9459/





[Edited on September 3, 2011 at 8:18 PM. Reason : THX]

9/3/2011 8:16:15 PM