theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Interesting article. It's long, so I'll just provide the link.
Side note: I think I've plugged STRATFOR on here before, but I highly recommend them as an alternative to mainstream-media bullshit punditry.
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/20100301_thinking_about_unthinkable_usiranian_deal?fn=3613472220
[Edited on April 19, 2010 at 4:11 PM. Reason : durrrrr] 4/19/2010 3:56:25 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so I'll just provide the link." |
4/19/2010 3:57:33 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I see no link. 4/19/2010 3:57:54 PM |
DeltaBeta All American 9417 Posts user info edit post |
This is a very clever way to say there's no way forward with Iran, Duke. 4/19/2010 3:58:20 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
^ 4/19/2010 3:58:46 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Come on, with all the bullshit and drivel out there, you guys won't even bother to look at something that's actually a worthwhile read? 4/21/2010 1:33:48 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
just got done reading it.
not sure I really understand their way forward.
Basically their plan is to allow Iran to meddle in the Iraqi government, which should piss Turkey off enough to similarly meddle in the Iraqi government (to prevent Iran from becoming too powerful); thus pitting these two countries against each other, while AMerica can withdrawal from Iraq and focus on Afghanistan?
to me this has blow up in your face written all over it. How does it prevent Iran from becoming nuclear?
[Edited on April 21, 2010 at 2:07 PM. Reason : maybe I need to reread it] 4/21/2010 2:01:49 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "to me this has blow up in your face written all over it." |
What American conflicts after WWII didn't have that written all over it?4/21/2010 2:07:18 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
^Desert Storm
[Edited on April 21, 2010 at 2:08 PM. Reason : persian gulf war, whatever]
I do totally agree with them that sanctions probably aren't going to work and bombing them isn't really our best option either.
[Edited on April 21, 2010 at 2:13 PM. Reason : its a sticky situation, fo sho] 4/21/2010 2:08:24 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
LOL focus on Afghanistan
Why in the fuck? 4/21/2010 2:13:49 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Well that blew up a little over a decade later.
^because thats where the real people responsible for 9/11 are hiding. Not in Iraq...that was just the Bush family tying loose ends. Now that Bush got what he wanted we can focus on the real problem.
[Edited on April 21, 2010 at 2:21 PM. Reason : .]4/21/2010 2:19:29 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
well, I'd argue that desert storm didn't really have much to do with us returning to Iraq.
Like you said, if it hadn't been for our half-assed leadership we could have just let Iraq be instead of returning. and according to the article Iraq could have even been an ally against a nuclear Iran (thats a stretch though) 4/21/2010 2:33:22 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^exactly. Bush Sr. couldn't invade Iraq because he wouldn't have had the support of the people and he didn't want another Vietnam on his hands. A quick clean cut victory was what America needed at the time.
Enter Bush Jr. and the rest is history. 4/21/2010 2:36:23 PM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^because thats where the real people responsible for 9/11 are hiding." |
the real people responsible are hiding under 14 virgins in heaven. the rest is just politics.4/21/2010 4:26:00 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ actually, 1,368 virgins to be precise. (as per their hopes)
however, i believe they will be in hell. 4/21/2010 8:54:28 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
because that makes so much more sense. 4/22/2010 10:09:09 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
different things make sense to different people.
don't be a jerk. 4/22/2010 1:24:30 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
I think most people would argue that going to hell for killing innocent people makes a lot more sense than being rewarded with 1,3xx virgins in heaven 4/22/2010 1:55:50 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
^How many muslims are there in the world? 4/22/2010 2:24:15 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and according to the article Iraq could have even been an ally against a nuclear Iran (thats a stretch though)" |
It doesn't really say that would've been an ally--it says they would've been a potentially useful regional counterweight.4/22/2010 2:35:34 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Enemy of my enemy is my friend (for now). 4/22/2010 2:36:11 PM |