aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
what a douchebag, making fun of Obama's daughter. Consider yourself officially called out. I don't care if he did "apologize." He showed his true colors yesterday.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/05/28/glenn-beck-attacks-presid_n_593587.html 5/29/2010 11:44:50 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I don't see how this is unusually more dumb that most of the other things GB says?
Sure, it's dumb, but who cares? This is what we expect from the right.
It's only marginally more stupid than most of what Sarah Palin says, and probably smarter than what most of what Hannity says. 5/29/2010 11:56:37 AM |
red baron 22 All American 2166 Posts user info edit post |
OK lets be fair here. Its not right for anyone to attack the families of any political figure, but dont sit there and pretend the left does not do the same thing you're upset at Beck for. Palin's family was attacked, as was Bush's family. I mean just look at David Letterman. Hell, you have people protesting bank execs at their homes and threatening their families. Fact of the matter is, it is wrong when anyone does it but you should have the intellectual honesty to condemn it no matter who attacks someones family rather than the issues.
[Edited on May 29, 2010 at 12:02 PM. Reason : .] 5/29/2010 12:00:59 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53063 Posts user info edit post |
I was equally appalled when the left attacked palin's daughter. it doesn't excuse GB being a douchebag, so don't act like it does
and, for the record, you might want to search the forums and see how I called them out on it then, too.
I think this is the first time I have ever been accused of being a left-wing shill, lol
[Edited on May 29, 2010 at 12:06 PM. Reason : ] 5/29/2010 12:05:47 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty sure that aaronburro would definitely do that.
At any rate, what the other side does is irrelevant. Fuck Glenn Beck. He's a ridiculous douchebag. 5/29/2010 12:06:43 PM |
red baron 22 All American 2166 Posts user info edit post |
aaron, I was not referring to you, i was making a general point. And im sure you did call out the left for the same thing, and I am well aware that you are not a left wing shrill. 5/29/2010 12:09:37 PM |
m52ncsu Suspended 1606 Posts user info edit post |
he had to do something controversial to get some ratings, he's down like 75% 5/29/2010 12:11:39 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
LOL
malaprops ITT5/29/2010 12:20:20 PM |
red baron 22 All American 2166 Posts user info edit post |
you know, both shrill and shill could properly fit the context, definition speaking 5/29/2010 12:23:02 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
no, actually not.
It is impossible to be a shrill.
One can be shrill, but not a shrill. 5/29/2010 12:24:36 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Glenn Beck is a pretty big douche for doing this. As far as the Palin comments are concerned regarding her family, while i do not think its ethical I do at least think that some of the attacks on her family were credible.
She was the outspoken GOP figure running as VP in 2008 who proudly waved her stance on abstinence only sex education and family morals yet her own daughter is getting knocked up out of wedlock at 17 by some self-described "fucking redneck."
On the other hand mocking obama daughter in regards to the absolute catastrophe in the Gulf has NO relevance to Obama's political viability.
[Edited on May 29, 2010 at 12:32 PM. Reason : a] 5/29/2010 12:32:26 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
the other side is always worse. 5/29/2010 12:36:14 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
I am not on any side... 5/29/2010 12:58:39 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
Glenn Feck's job is to sell advertising. To do that, he needs ratings. To get them, he needs viewers. To get viewers, he needs to say provocative shit. In short, this just draws attention to him, which brings profits and success.
What a fucked up way to make a buck. 5/29/2010 1:00:44 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, that's the problem with cable news channels. It's gotten to the point where the constant stream of information and discussion is a constant stream of useless information and discussion. 5/29/2010 2:45:33 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
That's not true. I am becoming more and more convinced that Woodrow Wilson was the anti-Christ thanks to GB. 5/29/2010 4:39:10 PM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
Glenn Feck? Seriously?
reminds me of those idiot comments on politico calling Obama "Obummer"
please, don't be that guy. 5/29/2010 4:53:17 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
fecking shetbeg 5/29/2010 5:00:03 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Over it. Get there. 5/29/2010 5:44:58 PM |
eli All American 1581 Posts user info edit post |
Everyone already knows Glenn Beck is a douche... semi-unnecessary. 5/29/2010 5:56:43 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/05/29/beck-apologizes-for-mocking-obama%e2%80%99s-daughter/ 5/29/2010 6:32:44 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^
Quote : | "The White House has not responded to Beck’s comments. " |
Their response should be "who's glenn beck?"5/29/2010 10:36:49 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
^ heh I can just imagine the tizzy that would put Beck into. 5/30/2010 2:40:33 AM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
probably not much more of a tizzy than he effects whenever he talks about anything...
but if it makes you feel happy to think he would take something like that seriously, after Obama himself as well as other high ranking members mentioned Glenn Beck specifically, go right ahead. 5/30/2010 3:33:14 AM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
Or better yet, Obama ought to call on Beck's red phone, and say "hey douche, leave my girls alone." 5/30/2010 7:45:17 AM |
Solinari All American 16957 Posts user info edit post |
LOL, now that would get Beck into a tizzy haha... 5/30/2010 10:35:48 AM |
DalCowboys All American 1945 Posts user info edit post |
Not trying to defend Beck here... but if Obama doesn't want people to attack his family, maybe he shouldn't bring them up at his press conference(s). 6/1/2010 9:27:06 AM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
It's almost as if Obama hates his own children 6/1/2010 9:41:08 AM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That's a terribly idiotic thing to say. Let the man have his father moments, ok? 6/1/2010 11:05:15 AM |
DalCowboys All American 1945 Posts user info edit post |
He can have all of the father moments he wants to, just don't try to get sympathy by using your kids in your press conference. Seems to me like there is a double standard here... I can use my child as a way to get support, but it's not fair to use my child against me. I think he should have been called out for this but Beck did it in a very childish and moronic way. 6/1/2010 11:16:41 AM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
All he did was mention that she'd asked him a question. I think most people with children are going to be able to relate to that, especially when that child's question is about something that's hard.
There's no need for him to be "called out" for anything. 6/1/2010 11:51:21 AM |
DalCowboys All American 1945 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "All he did was mention that she'd asked him a question. " |
Come on! You know as well I do when he said "Daddy, did you plug the hole?" that he was trying to get sympathy from the American public. If you don't want your family involved in politics then don't bring them in when it's convenient for you.6/1/2010 1:12:52 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
I feel very sorry for you. Please set aside your dislike of the man for a moment and let him express some humanity, rather than assuming literally everything out of his mouth is a political statement. 6/1/2010 2:20:48 PM |
DaBird All American 7551 Posts user info edit post |
ideally, I think familiar status, anecdotes and criticisms should be completely off limits and irrelevant to the political conversation. realistically, your family is such a huge part of your support structure and life it would be impossible to not reference them on occasion. it just should not be overused and I dont think Obama has done that.
as an exception to this, I do think having an affair or cheating on your spouse is a huge reflection of a person's character and that does have an impact when I form an opinion about a politician. 6/1/2010 3:00:03 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
[quote]Please set aside your dislike of the man for a moment and let him express some humanity, rather than assuming literally everything out of his mouth is a political statement.[quote]
FWIW, and I haven't seen the clip in question, when you get to the level of POTUS it's pretty much a given that everything out of your mouth when cameras are rolling is a political statement. 6/1/2010 5:26:49 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
I see. So the man's not allowed to have a father moment. My god, I hope you people grow up to be better adjusted than you're showing here. 6/1/2010 6:29:23 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Keep in mind this is the same guy (Glenn Beck) who giggled for a good 30 minutes when mentioning Congressman Anthony Weiner. 6/1/2010 7:34:42 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
I said nothing about what he is or isn't allowed to have. I simply pointed out the fact that when you are that high up in politics and the cameras are rolling that there is a vanishingly small chance that the things you say aren't scripted, planned or vetted before they ever come out of your mouth. Again, I haven't seen the clip in question, but if you were to take any given video clip of Obama speaking, you would be much richer if you bet that whatever he was saying was scripted / vetted as opposed to off the cuff. And I would say the same thing about any high level politician.
To be honest that's a bad thing. I think we would be a lot better off if our politics were less theater and more honesty, but that's what you get when "politician" is a career.
On another note, you should perhaps tone down your sensitivity a bit. Just because someone points out a truth does not make them a heartless or maladjusted person. 6/1/2010 7:41:50 PM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "when you get to the level of POTUS it's pretty much a given that everything out of your mouth when cameras are rolling is a political statement." |
i think in times of great national tragedy presidents and politicians become just an american and not a republican or democrat thats why everyone rallied around Bush after 9/116/1/2010 7:57:53 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
Even then I think there's a level of politiking involved. Not in the evil manipulative sense, but in more of a "we need a leader to take charge" sense. I think that's why there was so much bullshit over how long it took to get Bush out of the school, and why Obama is getting so much shit now. Because unlike what the politicians will tell you and unlike how we paint history, heroes and leaders are rarely the same as politicians. Heroic actions happen because every day people find the strength within them to go above and beyond, and when you're a political figure, locked away in your tower of aides and handlers you suddenly realize just how little power you have, and so the only thing left to do is talk big. In fact I would go so far as to say that if you looked through history, you would find more of the hero politicians were heroes before they were politicians than were politicians first.
Obama knows that he really can't do anything about the spill. Sure he can order the national guard and the Army COE on the job, just like bush could have scrambled fighters and such, but ultimately it wouldn't make a difference. The COE and NG would defer to the same experts and scientists that BP is deferring to now and the fighter jets would never have intercepted in time or would have been forced to shoot down the planes in the first place (do you want to be the man who gives that order?). So our politicians talk, and they appear just like almost every other american, because honestly they are; helpless and unable to make a real difference.
[Edited on June 1, 2010 at 8:25 PM. Reason : asdf] 6/1/2010 8:23:44 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "On another note, you should perhaps tone down your sensitivity a bit. Just because someone points out a truth does not make them a heartless or maladjusted person." |
I feel sorry for you to not recognize when to lighten up yourself. You've made it a point to view his statement about his daughter's question through a political lens. Not everything said by a politician is automatically political. I'd hope you'd realize that, and allow the man to be a father once in a while. But maybe I'm hoping for too much.6/1/2010 9:40:40 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Optimum, just about every one of your posts is some ridiculous personal attack or over the top sensationalist bullshit. It would be nice if we could stick to courteous, rational discourse. Then again, this is The Soap Box. 6/1/2010 9:50:55 PM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
I'm honored that you care. 6/1/2010 9:51:48 PM |
DalCowboys All American 1945 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Why I stopped arguing with this guy yesterday.
The truth of the matter is, I don't let my emotions get in the way of my posts, I just calls likes I sees it. And if Optimum doesn't agree with my post, then it must be "terribly idiotic".
[Edited on June 2, 2010 at 9:07 AM. Reason : .] 6/2/2010 9:05:40 AM |
stillrolling All American 1225 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ you keep harping on this "give him time to be a dad" shit. He has plenty of time to be a dad, the least of which is giving a press conference to the national media about a crisis.
[Edited on June 2, 2010 at 9:24 AM. Reason : .] 6/2/2010 9:16:44 AM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I can use my child as a way to get support, but it's not fair to use my child against me." |
Sincerely,
Sarah Palin6/2/2010 9:25:53 AM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
I am the Glenn Beck of this thread. 6/2/2010 9:32:58 AM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
This restoring honor speech is laughable
What I've seen of this sermon, I mean "speech", is boring so far.
[Edited on August 28, 2010 at 12:51 PM. Reason : ] 8/28/2010 12:32:42 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Has he started crying yet?
[Edited on August 28, 2010 at 12:43 PM. Reason : .] 8/28/2010 12:43:02 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Has he faith-healed any wheelchair-bound old ladies? 8/28/2010 1:20:03 PM |