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CarZin
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I dont know about you guys, but I am super excited for this next season of douchebaggery. I am going to be cheering hard for the whaler's, and can't wait to see the sad faces when their boat gets ripped apart (as well as when Peter Bethune is arrested).

Paul Watson is a big pile of shit, and I wish someone would haul his ass in and put him behind bars, not just for the crap he does on whale wars, but the stuff he's done in his past.

6/4/2010 11:43:18 AM

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I hope they all die

6/4/2010 11:54:47 AM

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Yeah, I don't think that whaling is necessary in this day and age and I think that whales should be protected. However, those whale war shitheads are so unbearably lame and incompetent that I wish their boat would sink.

6/4/2010 11:55:39 AM

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The thing to do in this situation is NOT watch their show

6/4/2010 12:03:30 PM

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I used to like the Steve Irwin guys

now they just piss me off...especially Paul. He's a prick. that skinny sumbitch is a douche as well.

Good going for sticking up for whales but damn...it gets annoying.

6/4/2010 2:11:15 PM

CarZin
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The next question is how long you think they'll lock Peter Bethume up?

6/4/2010 2:12:50 PM

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The best thing I ever saw on Whale Wars was when that Dutch dude called the crew a bunch of incompetent idiots, which was absolutely the case, and they kicked him off. Well, I think they did at least. Basically everyone on that boat is fucking insane to be listening to that Whale of a Captain. Interesting that he takes on the appearance of the thing he is trying to save.

6/4/2010 3:37:53 PM

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I enjoyed when the Navy SWO suggested they make a checklist and *gasp* practice putting the small boats in the water.

"Checklists are stupid!"
"Why would we need to practice?"

It's not like using the small boats doesn't turn into a fiasco every damn time.

I'm still waiting for them to actually lose one of the boats (or the helicopter).

6/4/2010 3:59:37 PM

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My pet peeve is watching the asshole pilot of the helicopter start flying and not have the altimeter pressure set correctly (I seem to recall according to the altimeter they were 400 feet below sea level one time I watched). Complete amateur.

6/4/2010 4:13:58 PM

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That's funny--I assumed the pilot was the only one with his shit mostly in one sock.

6/4/2010 4:28:12 PM

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wtf...ady gill?

6/4/2010 10:07:34 PM

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Man, those whales are fucked.

Whale Wars people are completely and utterly useless.

6/4/2010 10:21:58 PM

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They are all volunteer idiots. Holy christ are they worthless

6/4/2010 10:25:04 PM

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Forget whales, all the hip activists are fighting jews on the high seas now.

6/4/2010 10:26:26 PM

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im glad to see im not the only person that this show infuriates.

6/4/2010 11:32:13 PM

CarZin
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heheh, and right on schedule, the pilot took off at 100 feet below sea level on his altimeter

6/5/2010 12:14:21 PM

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What put me past the breaking point was when they faked the captain getting shot.

that was stupid and ridiculous...it "just so happened to hit his star badge."

the pilot always seems to over do his stories when he re-tells them.

and what the heck..they put up spikes to keep people off their boat?? no one would EVER want to board their boat.

6/5/2010 12:29:42 PM

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My favorite was

"I was told this prop fouler had the strength of steel! How could the propellers cut it?!?!"

morons

6/5/2010 12:38:06 PM

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Remember folks, spay and neuter your pets and don't hunt whales!

6/5/2010 1:33:16 PM

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haha i love this show exactly for all the stupidity mentioned in this thread. south park nailed it when they showed how incompetent these goons are. they think they are actually accomplishing something as they watch whales getting slaughtered right before their eyes. and fat paul is the most useless of them all.

i respect their passion, but their incompetence is hilarious.

6/6/2010 9:04:42 AM

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"haha i love this show exactly for all the stupidity mentioned in this thread"

6/6/2010 5:08:25 PM

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Well. It looks like the Steve Irwin is going to attempt night attacks.

They have launchers for the acid.

Will be interesting.

6/6/2010 9:27:02 PM

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that one small boat looked awesome at first, but then i was like well that sucks for riding through 15ft. seas...

in the preview they showed it all tore up, i guess they crashed it into the japanese

6/6/2010 10:01:28 PM

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yep - ady gill was destroyed! i kind of feel like a shithead for liking this show but, oh well

6/13/2010 10:49:35 PM

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I have a question. And let me start by saying, I don't watch this show. But I've seen the previews, and they all seem like douches. And this thread seems to confirm that.

Question: are they entirely anti-whaling or just anti-illegal whaling (protected species and number of catches)?

6/14/2010 12:30:57 AM

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The look in these peoples eyes is similar to what I've seen in cult documentaries... and other dumb religious people.

But lol at them running into the japs and thinking it was a huge victory/message.. only to have the japs loop back around and deliver a whale no problem right in front of them. Then the whale lovers realize they put a hole in their own hull. And when they get to shore federal agents raid the boat... Triple fail. Then they get a new speed boat ($3-5 mill) that can't handle the ocean and gets split in half by the japs later on. Epic futility

6/14/2010 1:04:50 AM

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I like how the captain is so stupid and arrogant that his master plan was to take his zero ice rated hull into an icefield where he could easily be sunk. Also, he had a quote while going in something like "I need to take care of this because I have the most experience maneuvering in ice." Then, his fat ass is sitting in his office and they hit a big chunk and come to a stop.

6/14/2010 10:42:57 AM

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Yeah, all proved to be morons in the last episode. It was so funny for them to think its smart to take their non ice rated ship into ice (I think one of the crew members said it was 'brilliant'), take forever to get to the other side, think they have won, and then see the Japs even closer as they made it around...

And then the idiot helicopter pilot... Why was he so far away from the ship? Surely the helicopter can beat the 4-10 knots the ship was making through the ice, and was he site seeing???

They all deserve the Darwin treatment...

6/16/2010 10:34:56 AM

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im not defending taking it through the ice but he has done it before and it worked great

this time ... not so much. i love the show. it should be a comedy. fuck the whaling fleet though.

6/16/2010 11:59:45 AM

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They supposedly already building another Ady Gil. Where is all this fucking money coming from?

It is good to see that those losers that hand me pamphlets in the brickyard have a future as wannabe pirates.

7/21/2010 11:05:27 PM

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there are plenty of rich people who agree with the cause. if i had a lot of money i'd definitely be making a monthly donation

7/21/2010 11:33:32 PM

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not with that fatass captain aboard I wont be.

He is such a joke.

7/22/2010 12:22:56 AM

twoozles
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someone's gotta fight the good fight

7/22/2010 12:27:31 AM

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The cause is correct. The people on the show are dumb.

The japs are commercially whaling when no actual japanese person likes it -- they were just forced to eat it in school lunches.

7/22/2010 12:27:35 AM

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Agreed.

How difficult would it be for them to attach a GPS tracking device to the factory ship? I assume it is kept in a relatively secure port that you can't just go scuba diving in, but I'd think it could be done with a little bribery or recruiting an existing employee to their cause. Then, instead of driving around the whole ocean looking for a little blip on their 30 mile radar they could know exactly where the boat is at any given time.

I thought Pete was a pretty smart guy. The compressed air potato gun and the bow and arrow ideas were above and beyond anything I've seen from the other crews.

I haven't seen the prop fouler work yet. I think it's about time for them to give up and quit dumping ropes in the ocean. At least come up with something other than a really thick rope if they're going to keep trying.

The captain of that ship who hit them should be held responsible for the collision IMO. The smaller vessel is supposed to give right of way to the larger vessel, but I believe that applies to areas where space is restricted (waterways, ports, etc). On the other hand, the Ady Gil was on the right and therefore technically had right of way. The larger boat was on a course to pass them and clearly steered into them seconds before the collision. Whether he meant to scare them or hit them really doesn't matter. The captain turned his vessel at them and a collision resulted. It did not appear that the Ady Gil was under power until just before the collision. I would assume the person at the helm saw the impending collision and was trying to avoid it.

7/22/2010 11:32:44 AM

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Screw that. Its not like these Sea Assholes are out there just watching the whalers. They are actively fucking with them, attempting to cause damage to ships, life, and property. If you follow their history, you will find it is anything but peaceful. In my opinion, they are lucky the whaler's havent brought real weapons to the table, and when someone really gets hurt, they will.

I would agree, that in normal circumstances, the whalers are 100% at fault for the accident. But the activist have brought "war" (this is the world they use, I dont even have to use poetic license) on the whaler's, and shouldnt be the least bit surprised when they are called on it. Its not like a pleasure craft was stuck by accident. It was a boat that had been actively hitting the fleet for 24 hours.

I am conflicted on the entire argument. I have read that the whale they mainly hunt has actually been increasing in numbers, and is a healthy population to hunt. I dont like seeing animals killed, but most of us eat meat from them everyday. It's part of life. If the Sea Assholes didnt do such a shitty job of their activism, then I might be more inclined to pull for them. But they are so dumb in their approach, that are they really are is camera whores. So I have gotten to the point in my mind, where if you are rooting for the activists, you are really rooting for stupidity. I simply cant do that, even if their opponents are out killed the sacred whale.



[Edited on July 22, 2010 at 12:01 PM. Reason : .]

7/22/2010 11:59:44 AM

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"The captain of that ship who hit them should be held responsible for the collision IMO"


Watch the collision again... There was an obvious wake behind the Ady Gill meaning the boat was MOVING FORWARD...

This was just another elaborate hoax by Paul to make the whalers look like criminals. You can't believe everything you see on this show. They clearly would edit it to make it look 100% favorable to their side.

7/22/2010 12:58:16 PM

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In fairness, I have watched all the videos many times. It really is hard to tell exactly who is to fault.

However, with that said, who can argue that being so CARELESS as to not be in the position to either steer or power away from a ship that you have been attacking is reason alone to put large amounts of blame of the crash with the Ady Gil.

From watching the Whale Wars episode, it was obvious that Bethume was intoxicated with his accomplishments for the day, and put everyone's lives at risk with a dead ship around their enemies. They are all ignorant.

7/22/2010 1:05:55 PM

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"In my opinion, they are lucky the whaler's havent brought real weapons to the table, and when someone really gets hurt, they will.
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they did last season / shot Paul in the chest with a 22 rifle but he was luckily wearing a vest

7/22/2010 1:19:46 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baR5HeojBHc&feature=channel

Vid from the Japanese whaler's ship. He may have been in gear at idle leading up to the :15 mark as it looks like there is a little bit of prop wash, but the boat was not moving in any significant manner that you could say it was "coming towards" the whaling ship. It was only at the :21 mark that you see the Ady Gil power up. I think he gave it forward throttle and tried to turn away to the right, but it's hard to tell. No way they would intentionally pull a stunt like that with the ship's captain and the rest of the crew lounging on the back of the boat.

^ I think most of us agree that was just a poorly executed publicity stunt. That's how I feel at least.

^^ Just because some kids egg your house doesn't mean you can run over them the next time you see them out on their bikes.

[Edited on July 22, 2010 at 1:25 PM. Reason : l]

7/22/2010 1:24:57 PM

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I dont think that ever happened. I dont believe anything coming out of that piece of shit's mouth...

http://depletedcranium.com/paul-watson-shot-nope-just-another-lie/

7/22/2010 1:26:01 PM

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Skack, let me know what your reaction would be if I were shooting a very powerful spud gun in your direction, not caring about what I was aiming at. Knowing you, I dont think you'd take it too well. I have seen those guns up close and personal, and anything that comes out of them has the potential to kill or seriously injure someone. They keep playing this off as fun and games, but they pull stunts that have the potential to seriously hurt themselves or other people.

I also dont think you'd take too kinda to me throwing glass bottles your way with unknown substances inside.

This is not even remotely the same situation as someone egging you. It is much closer to ecoterrorism than activism. Last season, they rammed a ship.


[Edited on July 22, 2010 at 1:34 PM. Reason : .]

7/22/2010 1:27:30 PM

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I was simply pointing out that the whalers escalated the situation. LRADs and water cannons are one thing, reckless acts that lead to collision are another. I would fully expect all of the Sea Shepard captains to be held responsible if one of their stupid maneuvers resulted in the destruction of another boat. I'm actually a little surprised that buffoon Paul Watson hasn't sunk his own ship with the stupid stuff he does. I'm not condoning similar recklessness by the Sea Shepard teams at all.

[Edited on July 22, 2010 at 1:49 PM. Reason : s]

7/22/2010 1:48:57 PM

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Do you know that this organization has scuttled in port several ships? Some were destroyed by mines. How do you not think this wasn't already escalated. They have a clear history of violence.

I'm not sure how you wouldnt assume the worst from the SS if you were the whalers. they've been proven to be very destructive.

I personally think that the SS escalated the issue with the use of the potato cannon. previously, they were just tossing stuff with their hands. They essentially were firing large projectiles out of a gun. I'm honestly surprised they didnt ram them sooner than they did.


[Edited on July 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM. Reason : .]

7/22/2010 1:53:10 PM

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[Edited on July 22, 2010 at 1:53 PM. Reason : ttw blowed the f up]

7/22/2010 1:53:10 PM

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In that video it really makes it look like the Ady Gil gunned her engines so that the Japanese ship would hit her. That seems to be incredibly dangerous to me and I don't think the Sea Sheperds are quite that stupid, but maybe they are.

At any rate when these guys hurl glass bottles and attempt to foul propellers and board ships all while doing so from a boat with a skull and crossbones painted on it as well as tally markers for ships that they've previously sunk in the past I think they should consider themselves lucky that the Japanese have acted with such restraint.

7/22/2010 6:27:52 PM

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the Japanese are encouraging them by not doing anything to stop them. If they'd just go ahead and fire a couple of shots into the hull below the waterline, they wouldn't get fucked with any more.

These assholes are worse than Somali pirates. At least the Somalians are terrorizing the seas because they have no other source of income. These fucktards are out trying to destroy boats and put lives at risk because they think their cause gives them a right to disregard human life.

7/22/2010 11:11:12 PM

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its a SPUDGUN, get it right!

7/23/2010 2:27:35 AM

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"In that video it really makes it look like the Ady Gil gunned her engines so that the Japanese ship would hit her. That seems to be incredibly dangerous to me and I don't think the Sea Sheperds are quite that stupid, but maybe they are.

At any rate when these guys hurl glass bottles and attempt to foul propellers and board ships all while doing so from a boat with a skull and crossbones painted on it as well as tally markers for ships that they've previously sunk in the past I think they should consider themselves lucky that the Japanese have acted with such restraint."


I too have sunken 200 ton boats with a potato gun and glass bottles.....

7/23/2010 7:54:44 AM

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^ What's your point? They've scuttled ships in the past, so they're obviously ok with destroying other people's property as long is it suits their own sense of justice. As far as the Japanese know they'd love to sink their boats as well if given the opportunity.

7/23/2010 8:51:42 AM

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