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twoozles
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I know I'm not the only person on here excited about this! We ordered our IMAX tickets today!!!

6/17/2010 7:37:26 PM

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first

6/17/2010 7:41:42 PM

ShawnaC123
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I've been trying to read the book since New Moon was out in theatres.


It's just soooo repetitive and drawn out...chick needs an editor.

6/17/2010 7:47:58 PM

twoozles
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eclipse was my least favorite of the books

6/17/2010 7:57:13 PM

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Most people I talked to said New Moon was the worst cause it was just her moping around all the time.

I had similar problems getting through New Moon...that one took me like 6 months I think.

Not that I was continuously reading...I'd read a couple pages, get bored and then pick it up a couple days later.

6/17/2010 8:21:29 PM

twoozles
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i was in a mopey mood when i read so maybe that's why i liked it so much. i haven't re-read it since then. although to be honest i think i was in a mopey mood while i read that whole series.

6/17/2010 8:30:35 PM

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I really kinda wish I hadn't wasted money on these books


I liked the first one okay, but I really think someone needs to bludgeon all of the characters to death (except Jacob)

6/17/2010 8:37:40 PM

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i found them entertaining but i haven't re-read any of them yet. i'm not sure i ever will. though i do want to read her latest book about bree tanner.

(omg, i can't believe what a girl i've become over the years. i would have never got into this crap like 2 years ago.)

6/17/2010 8:40:53 PM

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I haven't even gotten far enough in to know who Bree Tanner is yet.


Have you read the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants books? I'm way too old for them, but I think they're really good.

6/17/2010 9:52:04 PM

twoozles
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i've read all the books and seen the movies

6/17/2010 10:02:07 PM

twoozles
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if i had known how awful that movie was i would have skipped out and had a much more productive evening. and i would not have to get up at 5 am tomorrow

6/30/2010 10:05:47 PM

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[Edited on June 30, 2010 at 11:26 PM. Reason : .]

6/30/2010 11:26:14 PM

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" if i had known how awful that movie was i would have skipped out and had a much more productive evening. and i would not have to get up at 5 am tomorrow"


there are tons of people on here telling you that Twilight sucks

there are facebook groups telling you that Twilight sucks

how did you not know

twilight sucks

AND

not one post in this thread has said something positive about the book/movie

why the hell are you guys so hyped about it then???

[Edited on July 1, 2010 at 12:19 AM. Reason : ...]

7/1/2010 12:17:43 AM

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"Sex : F"

7/1/2010 12:56:37 AM

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I got dragged to see it yesterday... it actually wasn't horrible - point of reference: I was dragged to the second one as well and it bored me half to death


this one wasn't all sappy love story crap- actually had a little action

7/1/2010 12:47:08 PM

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gay

7/1/2010 1:07:36 PM

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I am going to see this when my bff flies in from AZ. I thought I was a twilight fan, jeez my friend wins! We are seeing it in an IMAX theater.

7/1/2010 1:27:40 PM

twoozles
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I think it had potential to be cheesy/cute like the others but it seemed really rushed. It glossed over a lot of things I wanted to see more of, like the origins of rosalie and jasper, and the quiluete history. The action scenes were OK but I wanted more. There were way too many close up shots, so I spent too much time looking up the actors' noses.

7/1/2010 1:40:54 PM

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this franchise hasn't to be the gayest representation of vampires that I can remember

please make it stop

7/1/2010 1:56:59 PM

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I saw the first movie, luckily with rifftrax. I caught about 5 minutes of part 2, the part where they go see some head vampires in Tuscany (or somewhere) that eat unsuspecting tourist groups. I've heard that this was "the best part" of the second movie. If that sequence was the most entertaining part... wow.

I regret even asking, but I'll make an attempt to try to stay culturally relevant.

From trailers I gather that there's this one girl that can't decide whether she's in love with:

1) An overly jealous werewolf that has all the positive traits you would expect out of someone that is at a 'search through your garbage' level of stalker. Maybe mix in 'pick fights because they think you're looking at their girl'. At least that's how he comes off in the trailers, always with a look that says "I'm smelling a fresh batch of werewolf poo that I just stepped in".

2) An aloof, effeminate vampire.

If a chick is constantly on the fence on whether she wants to go out with me or some other guy it seems like the sensible thing to do would be to dump her. What incentive do the two dudes have for wanting to maintain a relationship with someone that's extremely quick to two-time them?

7/1/2010 3:10:17 PM

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^They have to like her because she's the empty shell with no personality into which the female audience can insert themselves. And surely no "perfect" man would ever dream of denying one of the female audience members...

7/1/2010 7:18:50 PM

twoozles
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Bingo!

7/1/2010 8:37:30 PM

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Goddamn they are just shitting these movies out. Faster than the Saw movies even.

7/1/2010 9:23:09 PM

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http://www.uproxx.com/feature/2010/06/8-things-twilight-has-ruined-besides-vampires/

7/1/2010 9:56:17 PM

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^Twilight ruined vampires? Don't make me scoff. Vampires have undergone a pitiful decline ever since Salem's Lot.

Let's take a look: Underworld (and god help us, Underworld: Evolution), 30 Days of Night, Blade Trinity, Dracula 2000, Queen of the Damned, Van Helsing, it reads like a who's who of the most steaming shit piles in recent memory.

Salem's Lot was corny but they were old school vampires and I respect that.

7/1/2010 11:23:45 PM

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Yeah Salem's Lot is not very good.

but DAYBREAKERS was very good.

And Near Dark and Interview With The Vampire.

7/2/2010 12:09:14 AM

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Actually, 30 days of night had some pretty bad ass, evil vampires. Cool concept for a movie, just not a great movie.

7/2/2010 1:21:57 AM

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^ It was also based off of a graphic novel. I hated the ending until I read that and it made more sense. Either way, I love the hell out of that movie.

I did the good big brother thing and took my sister to the opening of New Moon for her birthday. I don't, however, have much inclination to see this one.

7/2/2010 2:40:45 AM

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^^^ Near Dark was from the 80s so my point still stands. also it taught me that vampires wear Ray-ban sunglasses and I respect that

And Daybreakers, though it doesn't rank among the movies I listed, certainly wasn't very good or even good. The plot was haphazard, the characters were mostly one dimensional, and the Chrysler product placement was just pathetic.

7/2/2010 5:53:21 AM

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Near Dark is the best vampire movie.

7/2/2010 8:43:30 AM

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Let the Right One In was very good.

7/2/2010 8:50:13 AM

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I do not understand at all why there is so much hype about this movie and why it is shattering box office records. I have not seen the movies but even friends (female) that enjoyed the books thought the last two movies were mediocre at best. Beyond some college girls, tweens, and middle aged moms (with Tweens) the Twilight series in general has no mass appeal. The critics have all but slaughtered each of the movies in the series. Just from looking at the gross revenue and sales though you would think this was a continuation of the Lord of the Rings trilogy or the next Leonardo Di’Caprio blockbuster.
I just do not get it.....
Formula for Movie Success:

1 Popular Book Series + Tween Target Audience + Shitty Acting + n00b Director = $Profit High Gross Movie

From what I have heard this is just some lubby dubby romance, with some PG rated action, and pussified vampires.

How the hell could this compare to even a modern vampire storyline like the one from True Blood.

[Edited on July 2, 2010 at 10:20 AM. Reason : s]

7/2/2010 10:19:28 AM

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LOL Azaka's article shows the Twilight-inspired cover for Near Dark. Any Twilight tween who Netflixes this movie is in for a wild night.

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7/2/2010 2:48:26 PM

Bweez
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"^^^ Near Dark was from the 80s so my point still stands. also it taught me that vampires wear Ray-ban sunglasses and I respect that"


It was after Salem's Lot, and light years better than Salem's Lot.

And Daybreakers was the most original and fun vampire film in years.

7/2/2010 3:54:31 PM

twoozles
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I don't understand why these movies are popular. It only contains super hot dudes playing vampires and shapeshifters. And it's superficially romantic. God, how could anyone be interested in that?!?!

7/2/2010 10:14:39 PM

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Went and saw it the other night. I was very impressed. Eclipse was my least favorite book so I wasn't expecting to like it. I actually really enjoyed it. I think it might be my favorite movie so far! I thought it had a lot more action, had a lot more humor and Kristen Stewart's acting seems to have improved.

I can't wait for the last one...should be interesting to see how they do some of the scenes.

7/3/2010 11:53:29 AM

Bweez
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You mean the last two?

7/3/2010 11:55:50 AM

AlliePaige
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^Are they doing what HP did and making the last book into two movies?

7/3/2010 2:51:53 PM

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"It was after Salem's Lot, and light years better than Salem's Lot.

And Daybreakers was the most original and fun vampire film in years."


OK so vampire movies have sucked for 20 years not 30. happy? either way it's not Twilight's fault.

I'll give you that Daybreakers had an interesting concept, but they should've skipped the halfhearted social commentary. Willem Dafoe was the only cast member who knew what kind of movie he was in.

7/3/2010 3:06:37 PM

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I dunno.

As with every type of movie and movies in general, there have always been a few good ones and a LOT of shit. There wasn't an abundance of great vampire flicks in the 70's and 80's. There was... Nosferatu remake... Salem's Lot... 80's had Lost Boys and Near Dark.

The 90's probably had somewhere between 4 and 10, I haven't seen enough of them to judge. But there was Blade i guess, From Dusk Til Dawn i guess, Bram Stoker's, Interview.

The aughts had Shadow of The Vampire and Let The Right One In off the top of my head. Blade II, I guess.

By the end of 2010 there will probably be two good vampire films this decade so far(Daybreakers[meh, i guess this is 2009, made the festival rounds in '09, actual release was 2010] and Let Me In).


And I agree, "it's not twilight's fault."

[Edited on July 3, 2010 at 4:59 PM. Reason : .]

7/3/2010 4:58:09 PM

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"I'll give you that Daybreakers had an interesting concept, but they should've skipped the halfhearted social commentary. Willem Dafoe was the only cast member who knew what kind of movie he was in."


so true. It was an interesting concept. they just didn't execute (write or direct) it well. And Dafoe was great as usual.

I liked Let the Right One In. and the unnecessary, american remake actually looks like it could be decent. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjavOLdPk1c

I recently watched Thirst and really liked it. It's korean (i think) movie. written/directed by the guy who did Oldboy, Lady Vengeance, etc. It's about a Catholic priest who accidentally becomes a vampire through a blood transfusion. How he deals with his new needs/urges, and then everything that comes with that.

And I liked the idea and the vampires in 30 Days of Night. The movie had some major flaws, but I did like the idea.

The others, underworld, blade, etc., I don't even think of as "vampire movies" really. They're just action movies that have vampires in them.

7/3/2010 5:30:46 PM

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Oh yeah Thirst is great, forgot about thirst.

Let Me In looks really good.

7/3/2010 5:39:47 PM

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how has once bitten not been mentioned yet?


GREATEST VAMPIRE MOVIE EVER

7/3/2010 6:17:38 PM

Bweez
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the greatest vampire movie is Dracula: Dead and Loving It.

7/3/2010 6:20:05 PM

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"The others, underworld, blade, etc., I don't even think of as "vampire movies" really. They're just action movies that have vampires in them."


as opposed to dramas with vampires in it?

7/3/2010 9:08:18 PM

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"the greatest vampire movie is Dracula: Dead and Loving It."

7/3/2010 9:22:52 PM

cyrion
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if we're going that route you should just take every Count Duckula and cram them together and that would bet better.

7/3/2010 9:25:10 PM

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"I got dragged to see it yesterday tonight... it actually wasn't horrible - point of reference: I was dragged to the second one as well and it bored me half to death


this one wasn't all sappy love story crap- actually had a little action
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7/3/2010 10:34:42 PM

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~

7/3/2010 10:37:27 PM

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"as opposed to dramas with vampires in it?"


No, that's overly simplifying what I was getting at. Regardless of whether it's a drama, comedy, romance, etc., simply having a vampire as a character doesn't put it in the "vampire" so much as "action" genre for me personally. And at best, it's just could be broadly coined a "vampire" movie. If there are vampire sub-genres, i'd say they include these: Simply has vampires, Vampires as "monsters" that the main character has to destroy or get away from, Life as a vampire/becoming a vampire, Bram Stoker based stuff, vampire camp.

Do you watch zombie movies? Have you seen Fido? I liked the movie a good bit. But if someone told me they liked zombie movies, I'd think along the line of the George A. Romero movies and remakes. I wouldn't necessarily recommend Fido to that person. Sure, it has zombies in it, but it's a very different kind of movie. Now, I would recommend the book World War Z. Similarly with Shaun of the Dead. Really good movie. Good comedy and a good zombie flick. But I wouldn't necessarily expect someone who told me they liked that movie to even be interested in Romero movies.

The vampires and werewolves in underworld could be replaced with two families, people from two different neighborhoods... almost anything really. The underworld movies don't have much to do with vampires or werewolves so much as the war between them and the action that goes along with it. The appeal of those movies is bad-assery and a hot ass chick in a skin tight outfit. And don't get me wrong, I like the underworld movies. And I liked the first blade, maybe even the second (don't remember it too well). But I look at them as action movies first and foremost, not "vampire movies." Vampires are somewhat trendy/bankable i guess. And the super-strength, healing, etc. lends itself to action movies very well. Those movies are about choreographed fight scenes and a certain imagery, nothing more - and that's fine by me.

And in regard to Underworld; if someone told me they really liked underworld, I think i'd be more likely to recommend Blade, The Matrix, or Resident Evil than 30 Days of Night, Nosferatu, Thirst, Lost Boys, etc. Those are all very different "vampire" movies. But to me, aside from simply having vampires, Underworld has a more similar appeal to The Matrix or Resident Evil than those other movies.

[Edited on July 4, 2010 at 12:37 AM. Reason : .]

7/4/2010 12:35:28 AM

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