Motherfuckers should be hanged in the public square... and people who support their barbaric actions, including the "very much educated people" should just fucking disappear from the earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rx8tJxziyU

6/24/2010 8:04:35 PM

opinions.

6/24/2010 8:05:53 PM

It's OK, they're only Indians.

6/24/2010 8:06:53 PM

i never did understand how 0EPII1 get so worked up about people killing other people and then being so furious about those murders that he demands the perpetrators be put to death.

6/24/2010 8:36:10 PM

well, consistency isn't a strong point for some folks

6/24/2010 8:38:00 PM

^ and ^^

so you 2 don't see a difference between people killing innocent people and the state executing murderers?

well i expect such from optimum, but qntmfred, i am frankly disappointed.

i guess all those who support the death penalty around the world are inconsistent like me

6/24/2010 8:55:10 PM

Frank Lee disappointed

[Edited on June 24, 2010 at 9:36 PM. Reason : ]

6/24/2010 9:35:44 PM

in general, no i don't support the death penalty

but in the RARE cases where it might be appropriate, it should be done with reluctance and sadness, not an eager bloodthirst for vengeance

imo

6/24/2010 9:39:01 PM

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"well i expect such from optimum,"

it's Chit Chat, i don't care. also, i'm honored that you have an opinion of me.

6/24/2010 9:39:12 PM

I thought Indians lived on reservations in America...

6/24/2010 9:50:13 PM

Indian couple slain in 'honor killing'

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"New Delhi, India (CNN) -- Asha Saini and Yogesh Kumar were in love and wanted to get married. But Saini's family did not approve of Kumar: As a taxi driver, they said, he did not have the right kind of job. But more importantly for them, he was from a lower caste. Despite their objections, Saini, 19, kept seeing Kumar, 20. To keep them apart, her father and uncle tortured and killed the couple, police say. "We killed them because we were against their relationship. If someone comes to your house to meet your niece at midnight, what more do you do?" her uncle, Om Prakash, told reporters in televised remarks outside a police station in the Indian capital following his arrest. The victims were one of five sets of couples killed in one week in India in June. Some have dubbed the cases "honor killings" because the families feel they have to act against their children -- usually their daughters -- to save the family's reputation. Police say the family tried everything to discourage the relationship, including arranging Saini's engagement to another man. In the end, investigators say the family turned to violence. A neighbor who lives next door to the crime scene said he heard the terrible screams in the night -- and also got a glimpse of what was causing them. "Big, thick sticks were being used. The girl was screaming, kill me but leave him," said Umesh Kumar, who is not related to Yogesh. "They were beating her so much, the blood was like a fountain coming out of her head." Kumar said he tried to help but his phone wasn't working and none of the other neighbors would lend him a phone to call police. None of the others called the police themselves. "It isn't our business anyway. They should have obeyed the parent's wishes. That is just the way it is," said another neighbor, who did not want to be named. Authorities have charged Prakash and Saini's father, Suraj Kumar Saini, with murder. Neither has entered a plea, and court cases are pending."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/08/india.honor.killings/index.html

7/9/2010 9:18:48 AM

Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgment. For even the very wise cannot see all ends.

7/9/2010 9:23:39 AM

shit like this makes me embarrassed for my race.

fuck them.

7/9/2010 9:25:33 AM

wtf, man

7/9/2010 9:26:17 AM

I'm for killing criminals.

7/9/2010 9:26:32 AM

Then you should support honor killings. After all, they are criminals. Just of a different variety.

7/9/2010 9:27:06 AM

Honor your father and mother is the 5th commandment. According to each of the major religions, it is punishable by stoning.

7/9/2010 11:21:03 AM

^^ don't be stupid on purpose man.

disobeying your parents is NOT a crime in india. it IS in some countries, but not in india. and even if it were a crime, the lovers criminals should be arrested and tried in court, not beaten to death with a wooden rod by their immediate relatives.

7/9/2010 12:14:43 PM

So they should be tried in a court, but the people who did it should be hanged in the public square without a trial?

[Edited on July 9, 2010 at 12:17 PM. Reason : ]

7/9/2010 12:17:30 PM

wtf are you talking about?

i never called for anyone to be beaten to death. i said the perps should be hanged in public (OBVIOUSLY after they are tried and found guilty of premeditated murder). where did i say they should be dragged out of their houses and lunched by the public?

7/9/2010 12:19:24 PM

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"LUNCHED BY THE PUBLIC"

7/9/2010 12:20:02 PM

Lmfao

7/9/2010 12:21:47 PM

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"where did i say they should be dragged out of their houses and lunched by the public?"

haha best typo ever. Maybe I'm just tired but I actually LOLd in my cube here at work when I just read that

7/9/2010 12:25:57 PM

THE TIME HAS COME





TO TAKE A NATIONAL VIEW






ON THIS MATTER...... all that dramatic pause for this?

7/9/2010 12:35:32 PM

lunched by the public...

hahahaha i lold too.

hey, a lot of people are starving in india, so they might as well lunch on the murderers after they lynch them



let's do lunch, k?

- esgargs

7/9/2010 12:42:03 PM

its kinda different when the family kills its own member, i think there should be special rules for this.

7/9/2010 12:47:56 PM

THIS IS A HOUSE OF LEARNED DOCTORS!

7/9/2010 12:49:07 PM

^^ special as in the punishment should be less or as in it should be more?

i many arab countries, "honor killers" receive slaps on the wrist for murdering their sisters/daughters/wives. (6 month sentences, because the crimes are recognized as murders)

7/9/2010 12:58:24 PM

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"I MANY ARAB"

Keep em comin'

7/9/2010 12:59:06 PM

wtf

oh and duh

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"(6 month sentences, because the crimes are NOT recognized as murders)"

forgot the NOT

jesus i need sleep

7/9/2010 1:08:01 PM

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"i never did understand how 0EPII1 get so worked up about people killing other people and then being so furious about those murders that he demands the perpetrators be put to death."

there is some truth to this

I like you, 0EP, but it amazes me how you can talk about all these acts of vengeance which you claim to support/have actually carried out, and no matter what the specific instance, the act of vengeance is always more or less justified in your eyes

and yet you are probably the most sensitive person on TWW when it comes to anything touching on human rights

I mean, the whole point of human rights is, don't hurt people.

it's rather interesting, all told, and I know you mean well, but I wouldn't call it consistent.

7/9/2010 1:13:06 PM

Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war in Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against 0EPII1 when death is on the line"!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Ha ha ha...

7/9/2010 1:22:35 PM

^^ just to be clear, i might have said it a few times that people who have committed terrible crimes against humanity should be lynched in public by the public, but that has always been a knee-jerk reaction.

this is my stance, no matter what the crime and who the criminal is:

try them, find them guilty, and execute them.

yes, i said "find them guilty", because i am specifically talking about people who have brazenly committed the premeditated atrocities in broad day light and there is no doubt as to who the perps are. like those guys committing honor killings and then boasting about them. or child rapists. or serial killers.

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"I mean, the whole point of human rights is, don't hurt people."

AND also when someone's rights are trampled, it is their RIGHT to have the trampler suitably punished. Without that 2nd part, there is no such thing as "human rights". It is a package.


[Edited on July 9, 2010 at 1:25 PM. Reason : ]

7/9/2010 1:22:48 PM

that sounds consistent enough, to be fair

7/9/2010 1:30:49 PM

Cameron Todd Willingham would like a word with you.

Except he can't, because he's dead.

He was wrongly executed for the murder of his children in 2004.

7/9/2010 1:31:07 PM

No relation to the thread but regarding the falsely accused, executed person in god's post:

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" If the system were perfect, then I would agree with the death penalty. The fact that the system is corrupt and it all comes down to how good your lawyer is based on how much money you shell out, I can't support a system like that. "

[Edited on July 9, 2010 at 1:34 PM. Reason : .]

7/9/2010 1:33:20 PM

^^
that's certainly appalling

I am, however, in favor of the death penalty when there were multiple neutral witnesses, when the crime has been captured on tape, when DNA evidence implies that there are only 10 people in the world who could have done it, or when there is some other factor which makes the criminal's guilt absolutely certain

Other than that, I'm really not sure

7/9/2010 1:38:54 PM

Witnesses have been disproved to be very reliable.


Experiment: Subject were shown a video of an unmasked man committing a crime. The subjects were then asked to point out the criminal in a line up and told the criminal was one of them... except the real criminal wasn't in the lineup picture at all. 100% of them pointed to a suspect in the picture because they were told the criminal was in the picture, where it dropped to about 80% when they were told the suspect may or may not be in the picture.

[Edited on July 9, 2010 at 1:46 PM. Reason : .]

7/9/2010 1:44:41 PM

^
that is vaguely interesting, but not really relevant to your position. Cops aren't going to leave the actual suspect out of the photo lineup.

7/9/2010 2:07:04 PM

In a real crime, cops don't know who the actual suspect is. Right?

7/9/2010 2:15:17 PM

are you like God? his position:

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""You can never prove that someone is 100% guilty""

in case you missed it, i said:

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"i am specifically talking about people who have brazenly committed the premeditated atrocities in broad day light and there is no doubt as to who the perps are. like those guys committing honor killings and then boasting about them. or child rapists. or serial killers."

7/9/2010 2:22:14 PM

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"I thought Indians lived on reservations in America..."

you mean Native Americans

and not all of them still do

7/9/2010 2:33:48 PM

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"brazenly committed the premeditated atrocities in broad day light and there is no doubt as to who the perps are. like those guys committing honor killings and then boasting about them"

The neighbor could have been lying and the uncle could have been delusional. Not likely, but not 100%.

7/9/2010 2:38:37 PM