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joe_schmoe
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Fuck yeah!

7/4/2010 5:58:42 AM

hooksaw
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4v9Da5DpYo

7/4/2010 6:44:17 AM

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^

7/4/2010 7:24:59 AM

hooksaw
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"Fuck yeah!"

7/4/2010 7:32:27 AM

lewisje
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrOM9rMfCk0

7/4/2010 7:46:31 AM

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7/4/2010 8:47:13 AM

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FUCK YEA

7/4/2010 10:07:55 AM

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7/4/2010 10:48:28 AM

Solinari
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The infant mortality rate is at least a completely bogus statistic because the united states counts premies in its stats while the other countries basically don't even try to save them

Oh, and the usa is still the sole superpower in this world. You can go cry in your milky tea about that while I fuck your mom

[Edited on July 4, 2010 at 10:52 AM. Reason : ]

7/4/2010 10:50:52 AM

lewisje
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but don't the other countries still count premies who die even shortly after birth as infant mortalities

[Edited on July 4, 2010 at 10:53 AM. Reason : ^chalk it up to the biggest economy and biggest defence spending by a long shot

7/4/2010 10:52:15 AM

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No, they don't.

7/4/2010 10:52:44 AM

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bosnia & herzegovina has a higher life expectancy than us? i admit being surprised.

7/4/2010 10:53:27 AM

Solinari
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Basically because their economy is so shit poor that no one can afford unhealthy foods

7/4/2010 10:55:19 AM

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I want to know how they quantify "freedom of the press" and "democracy"

7/4/2010 10:55:58 AM

Solinari
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However they have to in order to twist americas stats into being lower than other countries

7/4/2010 10:57:07 AM

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"no one can afford unhealthy foods"


Unhealthy foods are cheaper than healthy ones.

7/4/2010 11:00:35 AM

Solinari
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In this country

7/4/2010 11:01:17 AM

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2nd

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"I want to know how they quantify "freedom of the press" and "democracy" "
and i'll add to that "quality of healthcare" and "effectiveness of education"

- given a basic standard of living, life expectancy is highly dependent upon genetics. it is therefore expected that a genetically diverse population would not fall at either extreme of a life expectancy ranking.

- internet speed? mobile phones per capita? if that is where one has to take it to demonstrate superiority, that fact demonstrates inferiority

basically, fuck you and your little chart

7/4/2010 12:05:00 PM

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loooooooool

america sucks so bad

7/4/2010 12:08:46 PM

0EPII1
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"You can go cry in your milky tea about that while I fuck your mom"

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"basically, fuck you and your little chart"




(being butthurt like that shows a lot more of an inferiority complex)

7/4/2010 12:46:34 PM

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"bosnia & herzegovina has a higher life expectancy than us? i admit being surprised.

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I have a really hard time believing that Bosnia has a higher life expectancy than us. And I have spent more time than most there.

7/4/2010 12:53:22 PM

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It is all here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_countries

Particular list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

According to UN's list:

#38 USA: 78.2 yrs
#62 Bosnia: 74.9 yrs

(Interestingly: #24 U.S. Virgin Islands (US): 79.4 yrs & #31 Puerto Rico ( US): 78.7 yrs)

According to CIA's list:

#43 Bosnia: 78.5 yrs
#50 United States: 78.11 yrs


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"I want to know how they quantify "freedom of the press" and "democracy""


Click the wikipedia link to find the various lists. UN's different agencies make lists every year for corruption, freedom of press, human development index, etc.

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"Basically because their economy is so shit poor that no one can afford unhealthy foods"


Why you getting all butthurt, man?

Aside from the war of recent times, people in such countries have generally been quite content, even without having a lot of money. Happiness is more than just money. You are a hypocrite... you are saying the stats have been twisted to place the US lower in freedom of the press and democracy than other countries, but when a country is genuinely higher in the ranking in terms of life expectancy, you explain it away by saying that's because they are too poor to go eat shit like you and your countrymen do. So basically you are saying that the US is #1 in every category, and in the ones it is not #1, there exists a reason which is also favorable to the US!

Basically, Trollinari.

Yes, the US is #1 is a lot of things, but it is impossible for one country to be #1 in everything. Perhaps a millennium in to the future it would be possible, as the a big chunk of the world's population would have been homogenized by then, and most countries would be highly technological democracies.


[Edited on July 4, 2010 at 1:37 PM. Reason : ]

7/4/2010 1:19:04 PM

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What we lack in terms of standard of living and liberty, we more than make up for with superior firepower.

7/4/2010 1:38:46 PM

Lutz
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with all the nukes we have we could drastically change the average life expectancy!

7/4/2010 2:17:44 PM

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"Yes, the US is #1 is a lot of things, but it is impossible for one country to be #1 in everything."


Yea, that is totally the message being promoted by that stupid shit jpg.

7/4/2010 2:20:41 PM

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"What we lack in terms of standard of living and liberty, we more than make up for with superior firepower.

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we're not lacking anything in terms of standard of living and liberty compared to the majority of the world.

7/4/2010 3:12:53 PM

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quiet, Dick Cheney is monitoring this thread

7/4/2010 3:19:57 PM

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I just don't get coming into a thread with that jpeg of things the US isn't #1 in, on damn Independence Day. Is this guy the poster child for a big ole heaping can of fail? Guaranteed this guy hasn't had pussy since it had him. He's that guy looking up to the alpha males in the world. Take it from a chick, we don't like guys like you. You...annoy us with your girly hands and your emo bullshit.

7/4/2010 3:30:59 PM

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^ lives up to her name.

7/4/2010 3:39:38 PM

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7/4/2010 4:02:24 PM

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^^ GGMon alias-alias. lol

7/4/2010 4:03:05 PM

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"^^ in this case, i think there's a pretty strong case that it's also pride in merit. that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of faults, but holy shit, it's pretty tough to argue that America doesn't rock.

I've been to all but about 10 states (lived in 4 of them, including both coasts), and probably about 10 other countries. There are plenty of people better-traveled than I am, but I feel like I've seen enough to form a solid opinion. I like almost every place I've been (except Mexico...everything I saw there was shitty, but they have some cool stuff that I just haven't personally been to). Hell, even the middle eastern countries I've been to have plenty of things to like.

That said, America rocks, dude. If you think otherwise, either you just haven't seen enough of America, haven't seen enough of the rest of the world, or are an idiot...or some combination of those three.

There's TONS of natural beauty in the States, and wide varieties of it. the beaches of the south and gulf coasts, the Appalachians in the fall, NC's Outer Banks with horses running around on them, the Rockies & Cascades, red rock hills in AZ and UT, painted desert, the Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Black Hills in SD, Yellowstone, the Everglades, Badlands. FL Keys. Holy shit, dude, what more do you want?

You like cities? We've got cities. Badass ones, in fact. Hell, we've even got New York Motherfuckin' City...it's the city by which all cities are measured. There might be bigger ones, but there is nothing more impressive when it comes to cities.

Culture? We sure as shit have a bunch of culture-less buffoons who strive valiantly to reject any semblance of culture other than whatever flavor of 3rd-class trash they are...but I challenge you to find any other country with a wider variety of cultures. By definition, you can't. We have fuckin' all of 'em...and even if you just want to count the ones we have in significant proportion, that would handily defeat any other country I can think of. On top of all that, our culture is--by orders of magnitude--the most widely emulated and influential culture on the planet. I just saw a Krispy Kreme in Doha, Qatar...and let's not even start on McDonalds. Music? The whole world listens to our music. Soviets were sneaking that shit under the Iron Curtain. Movies? We make pretty much all of them. The whole world wears our clothes. They don't always get the emulation of our culture exactly right, but it sure as hell isn't for lack of trying (and it often has some humorous results).

You like money? We've got money. We've got so much damn money that even our poor people are fat. Hell, they're fatter than the rich people. We're so rich that what we consider destitute would pass for "pretty well off" in a whole lot of places. We're the financial yardstick of the world. Hell, we're such a financial monster that we can sit here in debt up to our eyeballs, and the rest of the world takes our dollars--on credit, even--just because they're dollars.

Military might? Jesus, talk about having something in spades. We do dumb shit with it sometimes, but we do great stuff with it sometimes, too...and at any rate, nobody else even has the option on the table the way we do.

We invented the airplane, the mass-produced automobile, the first airplane to break the sound barrier. First to fly across the Atlantic. First to fly around the world nonstop & non-refueled. Invented the Internet...invented GPS...We had motherfuckers WALKING AROUND ON THE MOON over FORTY YEARS AGO...just because we could.

Technology? Still the world leader. We have tons of awesome scientists, researchers, and engineers, plus a bunch of everyone else's.

Education? There are a few (relative to the entire world) countries with better education systems at the grade school level, but look at our universities. Harvard, Yale, MIT, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, Duke, Princeton. Even our 2nd-tier universities are pretty impressive, and there are TONS of them.

Economic and personal freedom? As we all know, I'm an advocate for more of both, and don't like the directions we've taken with either, but in the grand scheme of things, we're pretty good.

We've got Madison Avenue, Hollywood, Wall Street, Times Square, Playboy, Las Vegas, a mountain that we dynamited to look like our Presidents, Disney World, Disney Land, Bonneville Salt Flats,...you name it. We brought you both hippies and cowboys, the Corvette, Harley-Davidson, pickup truck, Woodstock, Google, Microsoft AND Apple.

We pretty much kick ass in the Olympics. We invented baseball and basketball, and we have football, Indy cars and NASCAR, plus most of the sports the rest of the world has.



There are plenty of countries that are better than us in one or two regards, but there's nowhere that competes across the board. I love to travel. I enjoy pretty much everywhere I go, and have great respect for pretty much everywhere I go. Yep, even the places I've been deployed to...they have plenty of things to hate, but they have things to like and/or be intrigued by, too. I'm not advocating a cocky, holier-than-thou attitude...and I will be among the first to acknowledge (and complain about) our numerous faults...but you're a fucking moron if you don't recognize that the United States is pretty damned exceptional, and you're fortunate beyond your wildest dreams for lucking out and being born in it."


-theduke866

7/4/2010 8:10:55 PM

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"^^ in this case, i think there's a pretty strong case that it's also pride in merit. that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of faults, but holy shit, it's pretty tough to argue that America doesn't rock.

I've been to all but about 10 states (lived in 4 of them, including both coasts), and probably about 10 other countries. There are plenty of people better-traveled than I am, but I feel like I've seen enough to form a solid opinion. I like almost every place I've been (except Mexico...everything I saw there was shitty, but they have some cool stuff that I just haven't personally been to). Hell, even the middle eastern countries I've been to have plenty of things to like.

That said, America rocks, dude. If you think otherwise, either you just haven't seen enough of America, haven't seen enough of the rest of the world, or are an idiot...or some combination of those three.

There's TONS of natural beauty in the States, and wide varieties of it. the beaches of the south and gulf coasts, the Appalachians in the fall, NC's Outer Banks with horses running around on them, the Rockies & Cascades, red rock hills in AZ and UT, painted desert, the Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Black Hills in SD, Yellowstone, the Everglades, Badlands. FL Keys. Holy shit, dude, what more do you want?

You like cities? We've got cities. Badass ones, in fact. Hell, we've even got New York Motherfuckin' City...it's the city by which all cities are measured. There might be bigger ones, but there is nothing more impressive when it comes to cities.

Culture? We sure as shit have a bunch of culture-less buffoons who strive valiantly to reject any semblance of culture other than whatever flavor of 3rd-class trash they are...but I challenge you to find any other country with a wider variety of cultures. By definition, you can't. We have fuckin' all of 'em...and even if you just want to count the ones we have in significant proportion, that would handily defeat any other country I can think of. On top of all that, our culture is--by orders of magnitude--the most widely emulated and influential culture on the planet. I just saw a Krispy Kreme in Doha, Qatar...and let's not even start on McDonalds. Music? The whole world listens to our music. Soviets were sneaking that shit under the Iron Curtain. Movies? We make pretty much all of them. The whole world wears our clothes. They don't always get the emulation of our culture exactly right, but it sure as hell isn't for lack of trying (and it often has some humorous results).

You like money? We've got money. We've got so much damn money that even our poor people are fat. Hell, they're fatter than the rich people. We're so rich that what we consider destitute would pass for "pretty well off" in a whole lot of places. We're the financial yardstick of the world. Hell, we're such a financial monster that we can sit here in debt up to our eyeballs, and the rest of the world takes our dollars--on credit, even--just because they're dollars.

Military might? Jesus, talk about having something in spades. We do dumb shit with it sometimes, but we do great stuff with it sometimes, too...and at any rate, nobody else even has the option on the table the way we do.

We invented the airplane, the mass-produced automobile, the first airplane to break the sound barrier. First to fly across the Atlantic. First to fly around the world nonstop & non-refueled. Invented the Internet...invented GPS...We had motherfuckers WALKING AROUND ON THE MOON over FORTY YEARS AGO...just because we could.

Technology? Still the world leader. We have tons of awesome scientists, researchers, and engineers, plus a bunch of everyone else's.

Education? There are a few (relative to the entire world) countries with better education systems at the grade school level, but look at our universities. Harvard, Yale, MIT, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, Duke, Princeton. Even our 2nd-tier universities are pretty impressive, and there are TONS of them.

Economic and personal freedom? As we all know, I'm an advocate for more of both, and don't like the directions we've taken with either, but in the grand scheme of things, we're pretty good.

We've got Madison Avenue, Hollywood, Wall Street, Times Square, Playboy, Las Vegas, a mountain that we dynamited to look like our Presidents, Disney World, Disney Land, Bonneville Salt Flats,...you name it. We brought you both hippies and cowboys, the Corvette, Harley-Davidson, pickup truck, Woodstock, Google, Microsoft AND Apple.

We pretty much kick ass in the Olympics. We invented baseball and basketball, and we have football, Indy cars and NASCAR, plus most of the sports the rest of the world has.



There are plenty of countries that are better than us in one or two regards, but there's nowhere that competes across the board. I love to travel. I enjoy pretty much everywhere I go, and have great respect for pretty much everywhere I go. Yep, even the places I've been deployed to...they have plenty of things to hate, but they have things to like and/or be intrigued by, too. I'm not advocating a cocky, holier-than-thou attitude...and I will be among the first to acknowledge (and complain about) our numerous faults...but you're a fucking moron if you don't recognize that the United States is pretty damned exceptional, and you're fortunate beyond your wildest dreams for lucking out and being born in it."


-theduke866

7/4/2010 8:15:10 PM

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Just in case people missed the 2 consecutive same postings:

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"^^ in this case, i think there's a pretty strong case that it's also pride in merit. that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of faults, but holy shit, it's pretty tough to argue that America doesn't rock.

I've been to all but about 10 states (lived in 4 of them, including both coasts), and probably about 10 other countries. There are plenty of people better-traveled than I am, but I feel like I've seen enough to form a solid opinion. I like almost every place I've been (except Mexico...everything I saw there was shitty, but they have some cool stuff that I just haven't personally been to). Hell, even the middle eastern countries I've been to have plenty of things to like.

That said, America rocks, dude. If you think otherwise, either you just haven't seen enough of America, haven't seen enough of the rest of the world, or are an idiot...or some combination of those three.

There's TONS of natural beauty in the States, and wide varieties of it. the beaches of the south and gulf coasts, the Appalachians in the fall, NC's Outer Banks with horses running around on them, the Rockies & Cascades, red rock hills in AZ and UT, painted desert, the Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Black Hills in SD, Yellowstone, the Everglades, Badlands. FL Keys. Holy shit, dude, what more do you want?

You like cities? We've got cities. Badass ones, in fact. Hell, we've even got New York Motherfuckin' City...it's the city by which all cities are measured. There might be bigger ones, but there is nothing more impressive when it comes to cities.

Culture? We sure as shit have a bunch of culture-less buffoons who strive valiantly to reject any semblance of culture other than whatever flavor of 3rd-class trash they are...but I challenge you to find any other country with a wider variety of cultures. By definition, you can't. We have fuckin' all of 'em...and even if you just want to count the ones we have in significant proportion, that would handily defeat any other country I can think of. On top of all that, our culture is--by orders of magnitude--the most widely emulated and influential culture on the planet. I just saw a Krispy Kreme in Doha, Qatar...and let's not even start on McDonalds. Music? The whole world listens to our music. Soviets were sneaking that shit under the Iron Curtain. Movies? We make pretty much all of them. The whole world wears our clothes. They don't always get the emulation of our culture exactly right, but it sure as hell isn't for lack of trying (and it often has some humorous results).

You like money? We've got money. We've got so much damn money that even our poor people are fat. Hell, they're fatter than the rich people. We're so rich that what we consider destitute would pass for "pretty well off" in a whole lot of places. We're the financial yardstick of the world. Hell, we're such a financial monster that we can sit here in debt up to our eyeballs, and the rest of the world takes our dollars--on credit, even--just because they're dollars.

Military might? Jesus, talk about having something in spades. We do dumb shit with it sometimes, but we do great stuff with it sometimes, too...and at any rate, nobody else even has the option on the table the way we do.

We invented the airplane, the mass-produced automobile, the first airplane to break the sound barrier. First to fly across the Atlantic. First to fly around the world nonstop & non-refueled. Invented the Internet...invented GPS...We had motherfuckers WALKING AROUND ON THE MOON over FORTY YEARS AGO...just because we could.

Technology? Still the world leader. We have tons of awesome scientists, researchers, and engineers, plus a bunch of everyone else's.

Education? There are a few (relative to the entire world) countries with better education systems at the grade school level, but look at our universities. Harvard, Yale, MIT, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, Duke, Princeton. Even our 2nd-tier universities are pretty impressive, and there are TONS of them.

Economic and personal freedom? As we all know, I'm an advocate for more of both, and don't like the directions we've taken with either, but in the grand scheme of things, we're pretty good.

We've got Madison Avenue, Hollywood, Wall Street, Times Square, Playboy, Las Vegas, a mountain that we dynamited to look like our Presidents, Disney World, Disney Land, Bonneville Salt Flats,...you name it. We brought you both hippies and cowboys, the Corvette, Harley-Davidson, pickup truck, Woodstock, Google, Microsoft AND Apple.

We pretty much kick ass in the Olympics. We invented baseball and basketball, and we have football, Indy cars and NASCAR, plus most of the sports the rest of the world has.



There are plenty of countries that are better than us in one or two regards, but there's nowhere that competes across the board. I love to travel. I enjoy pretty much everywhere I go, and have great respect for pretty much everywhere I go. Yep, even the places I've been deployed to...they have plenty of things to hate, but they have things to like and/or be intrigued by, too. I'm not advocating a cocky, holier-than-thou attitude...and I will be among the first to acknowledge (and complain about) our numerous faults...but you're a fucking moron if you don't recognize that the United States is pretty damned exceptional, and you're fortunate beyond your wildest dreams for lucking out and being born in it."


-theduke866

7/4/2010 8:22:39 PM

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"^^ in this case, i think there's a pretty strong case that it's also pride in merit. that doesn't mean that there aren't plenty of faults, but holy shit, it's pretty tough to argue that America doesn't rock.

I've been to all but about 10 states (lived in 4 of them, including both coasts), and probably about 10 other countries. There are plenty of people better-traveled than I am, but I feel like I've seen enough to form a solid opinion. I like almost every place I've been (except Mexico...everything I saw there was shitty, but they have some cool stuff that I just haven't personally been to). Hell, even the middle eastern countries I've been to have plenty of things to like.

That said, America rocks, dude. If you think otherwise, either you just haven't seen enough of America, haven't seen enough of the rest of the world, or are an idiot...or some combination of those three.

There's TONS of natural beauty in the States, and wide varieties of it. the beaches of the south and gulf coasts, the Appalachians in the fall, NC's Outer Banks with horses running around on them, the Rockies & Cascades, red rock hills in AZ and UT, painted desert, the Grand Canyon, Niagara Falls, Black Hills in SD, Yellowstone, the Everglades, Badlands. FL Keys. Holy shit, dude, what more do you want?

You like cities? We've got cities. Badass ones, in fact. Hell, we've even got New York Motherfuckin' City...it's the city by which all cities are measured. There might be bigger ones, but there is nothing more impressive when it comes to cities.

Culture? We sure as shit have a bunch of culture-less buffoons who strive valiantly to reject any semblance of culture other than whatever flavor of 3rd-class trash they are...but I challenge you to find any other country with a wider variety of cultures. By definition, you can't. We have fuckin' all of 'em...and even if you just want to count the ones we have in significant proportion, that would handily defeat any other country I can think of. On top of all that, our culture is--by orders of magnitude--the most widely emulated and influential culture on the planet. I just saw a Krispy Kreme in Doha, Qatar...and let's not even start on McDonalds. Music? The whole world listens to our music. Soviets were sneaking that shit under the Iron Curtain. Movies? We make pretty much all of them. The whole world wears our clothes. They don't always get the emulation of our culture exactly right, but it sure as hell isn't for lack of trying (and it often has some humorous results).

You like money? We've got money. We've got so much damn money that even our poor people are fat. Hell, they're fatter than the rich people. We're so rich that what we consider destitute would pass for "pretty well off" in a whole lot of places. We're the financial yardstick of the world. Hell, we're such a financial monster that we can sit here in debt up to our eyeballs, and the rest of the world takes our dollars--on credit, even--just because they're dollars.

Military might? Jesus, talk about having something in spades. We do dumb shit with it sometimes, but we do great stuff with it sometimes, too...and at any rate, nobody else even has the option on the table the way we do.

We invented the airplane, the mass-produced automobile, the first airplane to break the sound barrier. First to fly across the Atlantic. First to fly around the world nonstop & non-refueled. Invented the Internet...invented GPS...We had motherfuckers WALKING AROUND ON THE MOON over FORTY YEARS AGO...just because we could.

Technology? Still the world leader. We have tons of awesome scientists, researchers, and engineers, plus a bunch of everyone else's.

Education? There are a few (relative to the entire world) countries with better education systems at the grade school level, but look at our universities. Harvard, Yale, MIT, Johns Hopkins, Stanford, Duke, Princeton. Even our 2nd-tier universities are pretty impressive, and there are TONS of them.

Economic and personal freedom? As we all know, I'm an advocate for more of both, and don't like the directions we've taken with either, but in the grand scheme of things, we're pretty good.

We've got Madison Avenue, Hollywood, Wall Street, Times Square, Playboy, Las Vegas, a mountain that we dynamited to look like our Presidents, Disney World, Disney Land, Bonneville Salt Flats,...you name it. We brought you both hippies and cowboys, the Corvette, Harley-Davidson, pickup truck, Woodstock, Google, Microsoft AND Apple.

We pretty much kick ass in the Olympics. We invented baseball and basketball, and we have football, Indy cars and NASCAR, plus most of the sports the rest of the world has.



There are plenty of countries that are better than us in one or two regards, but there's nowhere that competes across the board. I love to travel. I enjoy pretty much everywhere I go, and have great respect for pretty much everywhere I go. Yep, even the places I've been deployed to...they have plenty of things to hate, but they have things to like and/or be intrigued by, too. I'm not advocating a cocky, holier-than-thou attitude...and I will be among the first to acknowledge (and complain about) our numerous faults...but you're a fucking moron if you don't recognize that the United States is pretty damned exceptional, and you're fortunate beyond your wildest dreams for lucking out and being born in it."


-theduke866

Happy 4th you fat ungrateful pieces of shit!

[Edited on July 5, 2010 at 12:10 AM. Reason : *]

7/5/2010 12:10:05 AM

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7/5/2010 2:43:02 AM

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"The infant mortality rate is at least a completely bogus statistic because the united states counts premies in its stats while the other countries basically don't even try to save them"
Well what do you know, I actually learned something in Soap Box.

7/5/2010 8:35:00 AM

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^ And now for actual sources: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db23.htm

- Even if the US excludes premies it does bad
- US premies do better than other premies
- The US has a shitload more premies than other countries for various health reasons: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/health/04infant.html

So, the story is still the same: someone in sweden is better off having a baby than someone here

[Edited on July 5, 2010 at 10:03 AM. Reason : .]

7/5/2010 9:52:42 AM

lewisje
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unless it's a rich white person

7/5/2010 1:38:49 PM

DaBird
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USA #1. not by stats, but by state of mind.

all other countries are haters.

[Edited on July 5, 2010 at 1:46 PM. Reason : ,]

7/5/2010 1:46:41 PM

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"Economic and personal freedom? As we all know, I'm an advocate for more of both, and don't like the directions we've taken with either, but in the grand scheme of things, we're pretty good."


Yeah, given this country's roots, I think we should be aiming for a little more than "pretty good" freedom.

7/5/2010 2:05:39 PM

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"^ And now for actual sources: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db23.htm

- Even if the US excludes premies it does bad
- US premies do better than other premies
- The US has a shitload more premies than other countries for various health reasons: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/health/04infant.html

So, the story is still the same: someone in sweden is better off having a baby than someone here
"


I blame black people

7/5/2010 4:58:03 PM

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Death to America...already in progress.

7/6/2010 8:26:36 PM

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[Edited on September 11, 2010 at 9:18 PM. Reason : God is an American: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slKNd22GGaQ

9/11/2010 9:05:37 PM

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that theduke quote makes me want to fucking salute somebody right fucking now

9/11/2010 11:49:13 PM

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Yeah, he's dead on.

While there are many things that need to be fixed in this country, overall it is so much better than most any other place. Most of the self loathing Americans have never been so much as outside a resort in Mexico to have any real perspective on the matter. Come back when you've lived in a third world country, or hell, even a second world country.

9/12/2010 12:07:21 AM

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"Find me another country with comparable communities representing people from every single point of origin on Earth.. In a dump like Greensboro, North Carolina you can see big groups of Vietnamese, Mexicans, and Greeks before lunch. Drive to Raleigh and find masses of Chinese, Indians, Pakistanis, Arabs and Africans of various stripes. And stop in Cary if you want to hang out with white people from England, Scotland, and France."

-GrumpyGOP

From the same thread with the duke quote. While I'm not sure about the demographics of places like England & France or elsewhere as to how multicultural they are, I do agree that its pretty cool that we are to the degree that we are.

[Edited on September 12, 2010 at 12:16 AM. Reason : .]

9/12/2010 12:16:41 AM

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^ We're better than most, but there are a good handful of countries with relatively diverse populations that get along... Trinidad has a very diverse population with relatively little friction.

9/12/2010 1:05:23 AM

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I'm reminded of how Michael Moore once described Canada: "13% of the population is non-white"

lol that's less than the portion of Americans who are Hispanic and a little more than the portion who are black, and even when he said it (2002, Bowling for Columbine) that was well under half of the total non-white portion of the U.S. population

9/12/2010 8:56:26 AM

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usa is great and far better than most places but at the same time ITS NOWHERE NEAR BEING #1 unless you're simply talking about military might.

We're the best at killing people! yeah! (but we suck at finding bad people so we just kill random people)

9/12/2010 9:29:23 AM

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