I thought we could make a new thread devoted to just hating on Obama that way hooksaw and earthdogg stop spamming up the other threads with rasmussen poll results or a who hates obama now article.

7/13/2010 12:58:46 PM

first!

7/13/2010 12:59:39 PM

wow, its hard to believe another liberal is feeling butt hurt over his failure of a president.

7/13/2010 1:02:21 PM

President didn't fail, congress did

and I always knew they sucked

I mean how do you have control of all the branches of government and still not get anything done

but thanks for getting the hate started solinari, I just want remind you to make sure your hate is focused on obama, we can make another thread for people to hate on me.

7/13/2010 1:04:34 PM

good leaders always pass the blame to someone else
(damn congress always messing things up)

7/13/2010 1:10:59 PM

lol, first it was bush's fault, now it's pelosi's fault?

Is Obama capable of accepting any responsibility at all?

good thread, btw

7/13/2010 1:14:47 PM

He accepts responsibility when things go right, so as President... yeah nothing so far.

7/13/2010 1:15:56 PM

Someone needs to start a US Electorate hate thread.

7/13/2010 1:17:14 PM

^call it losers gonna lose

7/13/2010 1:19:36 PM

if you want to make the world a better place take a look at yourself and make a change

WOO

WOO

WOO

nah nah naaaaaah nah nananahh nahahhh

7/13/2010 1:21:00 PM

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"I mean how do you have control of all the branches of government and still not get anything done"

The Democrats did get stuff done, but you need to realize that they don't vote in lockstep

also IIRC Bush didn't get everything done that he wanted either, like his project to slow the growth of Social Security and allow younger people to invest a small portion of their payroll taxes in a conservative mutual fund utterly failed, and he wasn't able to get all the spending cuts he wanted passed back when he did get the tax cuts passed
and as for the bad stuff he wanted but didn't get, Exhibit A is the Federal Marriage Amendment

7/13/2010 1:32:32 PM

i think he's done a fine job so far, definately made some mistakes but given the rabid right always in his way, he has done more than i thought he could

7/13/2010 3:06:11 PM

^ Like force an unpopular healthcare bill through Congress. I'm impressed

7/13/2010 3:12:11 PM

Pulling from an old post, this should be some nice fuel for the hate flames.

On the federal level the president advocates for science in our schools, he supports stem cell research, the president ordered a return to the Army Field Manual rather than enhanced torture techniques, he supports repealing DADT this year (something opposed by his republican opponent), the president signed the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act, he signed a bill to expand veteran benefits, he signed kids tobacco legislation, he signed a major land protection act, and we finally have a time-table (a word fiercely opposed by the last administration) for getting out of Iraq. I was also a fan of the recent presidential directive that results in allowing gay couples to have hospital visitation rights.

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 3:16 PM. Reason : .]

7/13/2010 3:15:22 PM

I voted for him, believing he would be the lesser of two evils.

I don't regret it yet.

7/13/2010 3:15:25 PM

the bill was unpopular cause the right allowed morons like palin and glen beck to tell them what reform meant, and now that it is passed it has become more popular
and im sure once the benefits are enacted it will be even more popular

unlike the iraq war which was unpopular from the start and continued to be more unpopular

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 3:17 PM. Reason : .]

7/13/2010 3:16:50 PM

Yeah, there certainly was more GOP support for the RomneyCare individual mandate before all that went down:

7/13/2010 3:27:13 PM

The bill passed because it was rammed through Congress so fast that no one had a chance to read it... (Hmm.. I remember a presidential candidate promised to let everyone have a chance to read bills before they were passed). It also passed because of sweetheart deals.. (Hmm.. I remember a presidential candidate promised that it would not be politics as usual when he was President). So I guess the President we have now isn't the same as the aforementioned presidential candidate.

But I guess this has already been covered in the Healthcare thread.

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"now that it is passed it has become more popular"

source?

7/13/2010 3:28:21 PM

^Iraq wasn't nearly as unpopular from the start. It was sold as a shock-and-awe campaign to show 'em what our boys are made of, then it turned into a prolonged war. I'd almost wager that the shock-and-awe part wasn't all that unpopular.

Granted this is all based on the basic opinion I saw in college (which was fairly liberal). I have no studies to back this up.

7/13/2010 3:31:13 PM

< Obama Hater

7/13/2010 3:31:44 PM

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"Haters Gonna Hate is a popular catchphrase used to indicate one’s complete disregard for an individual or a group’s hostile remarks addressed towards the speaker. This expression has its roots in American hip hop, but it also spawned an image macro series featuring pictures of celebrities, animals and cartoon characters strutting or posing in a conceited manner."

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/haters-gonna-hate

7/13/2010 3:43:35 PM

^^^once people learned the truth about what Iraq would be like, and that the Iraqis wouldn't be so easily shocked and awed and willing to get together to make a liberal democracy, the invasion wasn't so popular anymore

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"^ Like force an unpopular healthcare bill through Congress. I'm impressed "

If he could have actually forced the bill through, it would have had a public option, but he had to accept its excision, along with several other measures first proposed by Republicans (including the exchanges themselves) in order to get the support of enough Democrats to get it through.

Also the unpopularity of the bill was based on right-wing lies that took hold, like the belief that people would get locked up if they refused to get coverage or pay the penalty, or that the bill would fund death panels and a private army akin to the SS, or that everyone would be forced into government health insurance.

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 3:44 PM. Reason : h8rs gunna h8

7/13/2010 3:44:17 PM

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"along with several other measures first proposed by Republicans (including the exchanges themselves) in order to get the support of enough Democrats to get it through. "

I seem to remember another way it gained support from some Democrats.

7/13/2010 3:47:57 PM

something about an amendment that had no effect but basically said "no, we really mean it...no federal money for abortions"

7/13/2010 3:55:24 PM

silly me, I was thinking about those backroom deals promising extra benefits for their state and jobs when they are voted out of office in November.

7/13/2010 4:05:08 PM

Something about a sweetheart deal for the unions so that they don't have to pay taxes on "Cadillac" insurance benefits. Or a sneaky accounting trick where they make the bill look deficit neutral by stealing from Medicare, contributing to it's insolvency.

7/13/2010 4:08:40 PM

oh yeah, that's how they got the last few stragglers to support it

but the bigger ideas (like a public option) were total non-starters with vast swaths of Democrats and all Republicans

7/13/2010 4:15:24 PM

I realize that some of you may want to avoid reality. But I'm just passing along the facts--and I'm not even being nasty about it. .

I mean, if Obama has lost or is losing Barbara Streisand, this is an indicator that he has lost or is losing an important part of his constituency: those who have money, fame, and the ear of the media. I'm sure that many of you will poo-poo the Streisand thing ("WHO CARES?!!1"), but you may not fully grasp that she is a liberal icon and has been for many decades.

This is not right-wing fiction:

The Elite Turn Against Obama
July 7, 2010

http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailybeast/8874_aspenideasfestivalobamalosessupportofnationselite

7/13/2010 4:32:53 PM

^Interesting to hear leftists criticizing Obama's economic policy as being anti-business and encouraging laziness and profligacy. Especially when Krugman is still screaming, "SPEND SPEND SPEND!"

I would've expected them to whine about lack of progress on typical liberal causes.

7/13/2010 5:22:54 PM

More wealthy elites having problems with the President's party:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38101235/ns/politics-washington_post/

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"A revolt among big donors on Wall Street is hurting fundraising for the Democrats' two congressional campaign committees, with contributions from the world's financial capital down 65 percent from two years ago. ... But the overwhelming factor is the rising anger among financial executives who think they have not been treated well based on their support of Democrats over the past four years, according to lawmakers, party strategists and fundraisers. Several of the party's biggest New York donors declined through spokesmen to be interviewed. Some Democrats say pushing Wall Street reform is more important than any slippage in political donations. "Democrats worked hard to pass reform with tough oversight, accountability and regulation, and it's no secret the big banks were against it," said Deirdre Murphy, spokeswoman for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. "But we believe preventing another financial collapse is the responsible thing to do, and at the end of the day, we will have the resources we need to compete in our targeted states, as will our candidates." "

7/13/2010 5:28:29 PM

^^I was AT the Aspen Ideas Festival. Trust me, there was plenty of marijuana marraige and medicinal sodomy.

However, it was NOT wholly a liberal event. Colorado has a lot of Libertarians - step outside the town of Aspen and you find yourself amongst the mountain-folk.

7/13/2010 5:35:21 PM

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"But the overwhelming factor is the rising anger among financial executives who think they have not been treated well based on their support of Democrats over the past four years, according to lawmakers, party strategists and fundraisers. "

LOL

I would love to know their particular gripes.

The gov. couldn't have cupped their balls any more lovingly than the trillion dollar bank bailout, and theyre pissed they weren't treated more well?

7/13/2010 5:40:34 PM

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"I mean, if Obama has lost or is losing Barbara Streisand, this is an indicator that he has lost or is losing an important part of his constituency"

That's the least important part of his constituency. Do you think Streisand would not vote for Obama in the next election, or even better, do you think the republicans would ever produce a candidate she would vote for?

Just because people are criticizing him doesn't mean they wouldn't vote for him, but keep up the hate!

7/13/2010 5:41:54 PM

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"The gov. couldn't have cupped their balls any more lovingly than the trillion dollar bank bailout, and theyre pissed they weren't treated more well?"

that was under Bush and Paulson, although Obama and the Democratic establishment supported it too

7/13/2010 6:13:57 PM

^^ Streisand and many other Democrats could simply stay home. It may not have occurred to you, but one-sided voter apathy works in the opponents' favor. Clearly, at this point, the Republicans have a more energized base:

Opinion: How can Democrats ignite their voters?
07/13/2010

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"For weeks, the White House and congressional Democrats have been engaged in a full-blown effort to convince voters that November could bring a return to GOP rule. They have made this case every which way: charging that Republicans will again rule as stooges of Big Oil and Wall Street; claiming that Republicans will rain a blizzard of subpoenas on the White House if they take control of Congress; framing the elections as a choice between the policies that got us into this mess and those that are getting us out of it. And so forth. Yet rank-and-file Democrats don't appear to care that much. Polling shows that the 'enthusiasm gap' is holding, with Republicans far more excited about November. In other words, Democratic scaremongering about the GOP takeover doesn't yet appear to be revving up turnout for this fall."

http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_15506014

Furthermore, do not underestimate the political ambitions of the Clintons. Hillary Clinton could very well challenge Obama in 2012--thereby creating both something for Democrats to vote for and against, while still voting for a Democrat, healing the Obama buyer's remorse, and voting for the first woman president in U.S. history. This scenario is a very real possibility.

In any event, it is obvious to me that some of you are simply repeating your old talking points, clinging to bums and ideology. You don't seem to have grasped the growing feeling of discontent in this country--and that discontent is never good for the party in power.

7/13/2010 6:32:18 PM

we've got to take our country back ®

7/13/2010 6:45:56 PM

you exaggerated the Streisand thing but what more can we expect from you

7/13/2010 9:06:31 PM

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"Hillary Clinton could very well challenge Obama in 2012"

That's definitely not even close to possible.

7/13/2010 10:31:54 PM

Obama and the Democrats should get the same amount of time to control Congress and the Presidency as Bush and the GOP got.

7/13/2010 11:03:03 PM

4 years?

7/13/2010 11:04:37 PM

wtf

[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 1:55 AM. Reason : .]

7/14/2010 1:54:15 AM

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-23-health-poll-favorable_N.htm

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" "Opinions turn favorable on health care plan WASHINGTON — Americans by 9 percentage points have a favorable view of the health care overhaul that President Obama signed into law Tuesday, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, a notable turnaround from surveys before the vote that showed a plurality against it." "

http://www.newsweek.com/id/233890

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" "In the latest NEWSWEEK Poll, the majority of Americans are opposed to President Obama's health-care reform plan—until they learn the details." "

[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 1:54 AM. Reason : .]

7/14/2010 1:54:15 AM

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"wtf"

The Democrats held a slim majority in the Senate from the defection of Jeffords in 2001 until the Republicans regained control in 2003 following the elections; the period of Republican control of the Senate, House, and White House lasted until 2007 after the Democratic wave of 2006.

7/14/2010 2:02:28 AM

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" Public Policy Polling Wed, July 14, 2010 Obama Approval Hits Record Low Barack Obama's hit a record low in PPP's monthly national polling on his approval numbers. 45% of voters approve of the job he's doing while 52% disapprove. This is the first time he's topped the 50% disapproval mark in our surveys. There isn't any one smoking gun to point to in explaining Obama's diminished standing. In the last month he's seen small increases in the number of voters disapproving of him among Democrats (from 13% to 16%), Republicans (84% to 88%), and independents (55% to 56%) alike. The two most troublesome things for Obama in his numbers at this point are his standing among white voters and independents. Whites now disapprove of Obama by nearly a 2:1 margin, with 62% giving him bad marks and only 35% saying he's doing a good job. With independents his approval is just 40% and 56% disapprove of his performance. Nearly four months after its passage PPP continues not to find any evidence voters are warming up to the health care bill. 40% of voters favor it while 53% are opposed, numbers actually representing a regression since a poll right before the final vote found 45% support and 49% opposition. "

Voters Gonna Vote.

7/14/2010 11:00:15 AM

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"Nearly four months after its passage PPP continues not to find any evidence voters are warming up to the health care bill. 40% of voters favor it while 53% are opposed, numbers actually representing a regression since a poll right before the final vote found 45% support and 49% opposition. ""

But lafta had me convinced that:

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"now that it is passed it has become more popular and im sure once the benefits are enacted it will be even more popular"

7/14/2010 11:05:39 AM

Yes, voters gonna vote

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"Mr. Obama's re-election is virtually guaranteed, according to a formula concocted by American University Professor Allan Lichtman. Little beyond a massive scandal directly tied to the president or a major military or foreign policy failure could change that, according to Lichtman's system, which he calls the "13 Keys.""

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20010385-503544.html

[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 11:20 AM. Reason : ]

7/14/2010 11:19:50 AM

A Horatio Alger Story:

Once upon a time in College Park (where they live life fast and they're scared of the dark), there was a little nigga by the name of Kris, no one paid him any mind no one gave a shit.

Knowing he could wrap, no one lifted a hand. So he went about his bidness and devised a plan. He made a CD and he hit the block. 50,000 sold $7 a pop.

Hold the Phone! 3 years later, he stepped out the swamp with 10 1/2 gators. Now he roams around the world on a microphone and leaves the room smelling like Burberry Cologne.

In sum, Haters gonna hate. So do what Banks told you, do ahead and switch the style up and if they hate then let them hate and watch the money pile up.

Thank you.

[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 2:30 PM. Reason : ``]

7/14/2010 2:24:32 PM

^^
I wonder if the good professor predicted his own political defeat....

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"On September 28, 2005, Lichtman formally announced his candidacy for the United States Senate from Maryland. He ran as a progressive. Lichtman used innovative approaches to reach voters and supporters during the campaign including MySpace and a web ad where he jumped in a lake. Lichtman lost in the primary to Ben Cardin. According to the final tally, he received 6,919, or 1.2% of the vote, landing him in 6th place in a field of 18. -from Wiki"

7/14/2010 11:28:03 PM

most likely

7/14/2010 11:32:50 PM

Death to America...specifically the concept of the nation of America (the United States of America, not the lesser brown ones or continents) in its present incurably corrupt and unfix-able form. Not to be misconstrued as a threat against any persons alive or dead, in particular those in positions of sufficient power to harass, torture and imprison me. Let me be perfectly clear that in this circumstance and indeed all others I use the word death only in regard to the temporal end of the current abstract notion of our nation state and in no way condone or encourage action or violence against the presently existing power structure and those that fill and encompass such roles, not entirely because that would be a thought crime and I'm a good citizen that voted for you. Or didn't vote at all. Ever. Or never again. Whichever answer results in less persecution. Or execution. Because they can do that now. They execute citizens. Without trial or jury. With predator missiles. They might even get your family too.

7/14/2010 11:54:06 PM