GOP Celebrates Missouri Vote "Rejecting ObamaCare"

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"Missouri voters yesterday overwhelmingly passed Proposition C, a state law keeping the government from mandating that people have health insurance and from fining them for not purchasing it. The requirement that people have health insurance is one of the key provisions of the health care bill signed into law in March, and Proposition C puts state law in direct conflict with the federal requirement, which goes into effect in 2014. Federal law generally supersedes state law, making the vote essentially symbolic."

Continued at http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20012620-503544.html

The individual is, of course, unconstitutional, so I suspected that there would come a time when it was challenged. You've also heard me say that when the Executive and Judicial branches fail to check a legislature passing unconstitutional laws, the states have a responsibility to nullify those laws. Hopefully, that's what we're going to see happen.

At this point, it's a question of how things will proceed from here. I'm not sure how the state will go about "nullifying" the individual mandate; the IRS will still impose a tax penalty if a person fails to insure themselves. Will the Obama administration try to rule against the will of the people of Missouri? Will this vote be ignored? I guess we'll find out soon enough.

8/4/2010 1:34:47 PM

Secession.

8/4/2010 1:36:01 PM

Down with RomneyCare!

8/4/2010 1:48:56 PM

^If Romney came out and said "I thought it would work, we tried it and it doesnt...so it wont work at the federal level" he would be the clear front runner. imo. But the fact he keeps on trying to thump his chest over it, while attacking Obamacare, is reason enough that he wont get nominated.

8/4/2010 1:51:53 PM

Well he is one of the top candidates for 2012:

Time Poll conducted by Abt SRBI. July 12-13, 2010. N=1,003 adults nationwide.

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"Mike Huckabee 19 Mitt Romney 18 Sarah Palin 14"

CNN/Opinion Research Corporation Poll. April 9-11, 2010. Nationwide.

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"Mitt Romney 22 Sarah Palin 18 Mike Huckabee 17"

Huckabee is so very socially conservative that he's kind of iffy, and Sarah Palin as queen of the Tea Party is as well, so I'm still seeing Romney as a likely choice especially given his personal wealth and ability to fund a campaign.

8/4/2010 2:03:45 PM

the right has some shitty candidates.

8/4/2010 2:06:15 PM

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"Will the Obama administration try to rule against the will of the people of Missouri?"

The law has already been passed. Missouri can't do shit.

8/4/2010 2:12:36 PM

I dont think it will be either of those 3. None have a chance, esp if Mitt is hell bent on this stance on HC.

8/4/2010 2:49:37 PM

They overwhelmingly passed Proposition C??? Well, I'm glad that they're so worried about the rights of the people of their state. Now how about they grow a pair and pass another proposition blocking the Patriot Act and actually protect the rights of the people in their state and challenge an actual unconstitutional law that violates our privacy?

8/4/2010 2:52:32 PM

What's really funny...
...is when liberals call the obeying of the individual [health insurance] mandate an act of "personal responsibility".

8/4/2010 3:11:32 PM

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8/4/2010 4:10:13 PM

Romney is not a good conservative, he's not friendly to liberty, and he's just an all around poor candidate. The Republican establishment needs to start looking for leaders, not just whoever is "next in line." I would support Ron Paul in 2012, and I suspect that he would get a lot more backing this time around than he did in 2008...which was still quite a bit of backing, considering the Republican mainstream was doing its best to marginalize him.

Anyway, that all seems pretty irrelevant to this thread. I don't care that some tard in the GOP initiated some terrible healthcare plan on the state level. I would have been opposed to that. It's just a matter of how the Obama administration is going to react to this. We'll see if Obama will rule with an iron fist, or if he'll respect the constitution and the 10th amendment. Sadly, we already know where he falls on that.

8/4/2010 4:25:31 PM

This vote is another rebuff of Obama by the people. He will have to now sue Missouri to force them to follow his massively dumb health bill. Glad to see this case on its way up to the Supreme Court.

As for the GOP candidate, I'm hoping a lesser-known person emerges. Obama was also fairly unknown before Iowa. There is a good crop of younger conservatives bubbling under the old-timers.

8/4/2010 10:35:57 PM

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"Obama was also fairly unknown before Iowa."

Obama was a bestselling author and political rock star long before Iowa.

8/4/2010 10:40:26 PM

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"Obama was a bestselling author"

lol

8/5/2010 2:11:05 PM

McCaskill: 'Message received' from Missouri voters on health reform
August 4, 2010

http://tinyurl.com/28uc5sl

8/6/2010 4:12:32 AM

^

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"And I can only be hopeful that as time goes on, more and more people realize the positive things that are in the bill. I do know that this vote very closely reflected the number of people who voted in the Republican primary versus the Democratic primary. But nonetheless, message received."

Doesn't sound like she has completely seen the light yet.

We'll send her party a stronger message in November.

[Edited on August 6, 2010 at 11:26 AM. Reason : .]

8/6/2010 11:26:02 AM

Robert Gibbs: Missouri vote means "nothing"

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"White House press secretary Robert Gibbs flatly dismissed Missouri's vote Tuesday rejecting a key part of the healthcare law. Gibbs said Missouri’s vote approving a ballot initiative to exempt residents from the new law requiring individuals to buy health insurance was “of no legal significance.” Asked what it means that voters in Missouri would vote against the federal mandate, Gibbs said: “Nothing.” Gibbs is correct that the Missouri vote doesn’t trump federal law, but it has given a boost to those calling on Congress to repeal the healthcare law. Republicans spent much of Wednesday trumpeting the vote as a victory that sent a message of voter disapproval to the White House. A number of states including Virginia are suing the federal government over the new law. They question the constitutionality of imposing a mandate that individuals buy insurance."

http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/health-reform-implementation/112685-gibbs-dismisses-missouri-vote-against-health-insurance-mandate

This is the route I suspected the White House would go: marginalize the vote as much as possible. The message here from Gibbs is very clear: we don't care what the people want. We're the elite, we run shit, and we're going to tell people what's good for them because they're not smart enough to figure it out on their own.

[Edited on August 6, 2010 at 1:33 PM. Reason : ]

8/6/2010 1:32:41 PM

I think I'm gonna officially quit the republican party if the GOP presidential candidates in 2012 are Palin, Romney, and Huckabee

8/6/2010 2:01:39 PM

Did we know in 2006 who the candidates would be in 2008?

[Edited on August 6, 2010 at 2:51 PM. Reason : .,.]

8/6/2010 2:50:55 PM

hey...I'm just saying

8/6/2010 3:19:54 PM

[Edited on August 6, 2010 at 3:50 PM. Reason : Seriously, TWW? No Kannadan?]

8/6/2010 3:49:12 PM