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kdogg(c)
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Mark my words.

Hillary is going to resign after the mid-terms in a Jeffersonian style, retreating to Monticello move. She is going to start campaigning against President Obama with the rhetoric she used during the 2008 primaries: "I told you he wasn't experienced enough to run the country, and look where he's taken us." She can credit herself with having nothing to do with domestic policy, while portraying herself as a strong voice against what Iran and North Korea have been doing.

Rahm, in the meantime, is going to jet shortly after the mid-terms as well, so he can get enough signatures by 22 Nov. to qualify for the Chicago Mayoral race. He's been getting a lot of heat from liberals as having hijacked the President's true agenda in order to "get things done." Liberals will be glad he's out of the White House, and he's a very popular guy in Chicago.

And now that Hillary is out of the Administration, she and her husband can campaign with Rahm.

Thoughts?

Feel free to use this thread to bash me if it doesn't happen.

9/8/2010 2:26:54 AM

moron
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Rahm maybe... Hillary, definitely not.

9/8/2010 2:29:25 AM

Supplanter
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Your words are marked.

Please bump this thread when Hillary officially declares (but not until then).

9/8/2010 2:56:52 AM

eyedrb
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I agree with moron.

9/8/2010 9:34:12 AM

EarthDogg
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This is Hillary's best opportunity. "I Told You So" should be her slogan.

The democrat rats are going to abandon the S.S. Obama pretty quickly after the mid-terms.

9/8/2010 9:42:20 AM

eyedrb
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I think losing congress will help O get reelected. He will have someone to blame again. He can try it now but its hard to blame the party without power.

9/8/2010 9:55:27 AM

kdogg(c)
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But that's all he is doing now. And it's hard to blame a group who controls 42% of the legislators. It makes you look desperate and irrational.

9/8/2010 11:50:55 AM

marko
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Biden will step down and Hillary will become the VP nominee.

9/8/2010 12:01:00 PM

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Biden's going to step down. Hillary replaces Biden, Rahm replaces Hillary, and Lebron James leaves Miami replaces Rahm.

It's about as plausible as anything mentioned in this thread.

9/8/2010 12:38:59 PM

lafta
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rahm is definately going to step down, he has alread said that

hillary stepping down now might make her look like a palin, i mean quitter

9/8/2010 12:40:40 PM

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I think Hillary steps down and Obama makes Bill the new SoS. And then Bill gets a blowjob and we all talk about it for 2 years while Obama can work in peace.

9/8/2010 12:42:29 PM

EarthDogg
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If I was to let my Conspiracy side emerge...I could see this as the democrat's Master plan:

1) Obama gets elected..plans on just one term. Uses it to pass the most abhorrent items on the liberal wish-list. Announces that he won;t run again because America is too racist to appreciate his wonderfulness.

2) Hillary comes riding to the rescue. She basks as the democrats beg her to run. She is less liberal-crazy than Obama and is elected over a hopefully weak GOP opponent. She gets the less controversial liberal agenda items through the congress and enjoys two terms. Thus the democrats keep the White House for three terms.

9/8/2010 11:03:50 PM

BridgetSPK
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^I heard that, too.

Except it doesn't include adjectives like "abhorrent."

9/8/2010 11:17:44 PM

Supplanter
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^While I don't subscribe to much of your politics, I would gladly subscribe to your show if you were a writer for a 24-style television series.

9/8/2010 11:17:46 PM

BridgetSPK
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AHA, almost jinx!

9/8/2010 11:27:44 PM

Kris
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this thread is just lulz

9/9/2010 12:16:13 AM

kdogg(c)
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EarthDogg, somehow, that reminds me of Dune.

9/9/2010 1:17:30 AM

lewisje
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"Obama gets elected..plans on just one term. Uses it to pass the most abhorrent items on the liberal wish-list."
obviously an epic fail at that
can't even get a public option, let alone single-payer
also EFCA, ENDA, and cap-and-trade are stalled

9/9/2010 1:21:44 AM

kdogg(c)
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"While I don't subscribe to much of your politics, I would gladly subscribe to your show if you were a writer for a 24-style television series."


Not sure at whom that was directed, but my wife and I are BIG fans of the other TWW.

9/9/2010 10:42:20 PM

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The only reason that makes me hesitate regarding Hillary is that with so much invested into this latest round of Middle East peace talks, she may not want to break with the administration until the negotiations have run its course.

9/10/2010 10:14:35 AM

Wolfman Tim
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So you guys have given up on Obama being born in Kenya?

9/10/2010 10:34:44 AM

qntmfred
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so why is rahm leaving the white house getting all this media coverage? it's not like it's a big surprise whatsoever

who was the last chief of staff to leave mid-term? is this typically a big deal?

[Edited on October 1, 2010 at 1:39 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2010 1:39:11 PM

Supplanter
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_White_House_Chiefs_of_Staff

According to this:

Bush II had 2

Clinton had 4

Bush I had 3

Reagan had 4

10/1/2010 3:55:45 PM

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10/14/2010 7:47:51 AM

kdogg(c)
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Here it comes.

Kendrick Meek just thanked President Bill Clinton for his help in his concession speech.
Hillary isn't even in the country.
Rahm is politicking for himself in Illinois.

11/3/2010 4:39:29 AM

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"Clinton rules out a presidential run through 2016Bid

(Reuters) - U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton ruled out running for president in 2012 or 2016 on Friday, saying the United States should be ready for a woman president but it would not be her."


Herp a derp.

11/5/2010 11:54:36 AM

Kris
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So it's november, this didn't happen because it's absolutely retarded, Clinton has completely ruled out running, can we start pointing out how fucking stupid you are for saying this now, or do we have to wait until the end of the month?

11/7/2010 7:24:53 PM

kdogg(c)
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You should definitely wait.

How many times have you heard a politician say they aren't going to do something and they change their mind? I'll give you one example. This one is from January 22, 2006.

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"SEN. OBAMA: I will serve out my full six-year term. You know, Tim, if you get asked enough, sooner or later you get weary and you start looking for new ways of saying things. But my thinking has not changed.

MR. RUSSERT: So you will not run for president or vice president in 2008?

SEN. OBAMA: I will not."

11/21/2010 8:15:04 PM

Kris
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That's a pretty bitch way of admitting you're wrong.

11/21/2010 9:49:04 PM

kdogg(c)
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Statistically, the accuracy of my OP is higher than the President's approval rating...



...since last year.

11/24/2010 1:58:19 AM

Kris
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The first response of the OP is right. Half of your prediction was reasonable, the other half was rediculous.

11/24/2010 10:49:38 AM

kdogg(c)
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Well, now Hillary may be resigning for an entirely different reason.

One out of two isn't bad.

12/1/2010 4:53:20 AM

joe_schmoe
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no, you just suck at this.

it was already widely speculated by insiders Rahm was going to bolt.

you just hoped Hillary would so you could gloat.

12/1/2010 11:25:33 AM

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"She is going to start campaigning against President Obama with the rhetoric she used during the 2008 primaries: "I told you he wasn't experienced enough to run the country, and look where he's taken us.""


Part of me says that she'd never do this because the economy will still suck in a few years and the last thing the Democrats will want to do is divide up their voter base and point out flaws within their own party. They'll probably try to unite as much as they possibly can.

The other part of me says that Americans have a very short memory, so they can pretty much do and say anything they want during the primaries and all will be forgotten come election time.

[Edited on December 1, 2010 at 12:12 PM. Reason : -]

12/1/2010 12:10:46 PM

Nuoq
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I just really doubt that Rahm is going to get elected mayor of Chicago.

12/1/2010 10:03:18 PM

kdogg(c)
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I hear there are questions being raised about his residency for office.


Hmm...

12/2/2010 2:12:58 AM

kdogg(c)
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Nevermind about Hillary jumping the Admin.

There's no need now that the President has asked her husband to save the country.

Seriously, how weak can you get?

12/10/2010 6:43:51 PM

marko
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"There's no need now that the President has asked her husband, The President, to save the country."

12/10/2010 6:49:01 PM

kdogg(c)
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http://mobile.politico.com/iphone/story/1210/46256.html

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"Nobody owns the presidential podium like Bill Clinton, even in the Obama White House.

The former president, who stopped by the White House on Friday to meet with the current president and endorse his tax cuts deal with Republicans, held court for a half hour in the briefing room after President Barack Obama left to attend a holiday party in the residence.

Obama had barely left the room when Clinton rested his elbows on the podium and settled in. And once he was there he couldn’t get enough.

He fielded nearly a dozen questions, twice as many as Obama took during his briefing room press conference on Tuesday. He knew the reporters by name – calling out Ann Compton of ABC and George Condon of the National Journal with ease. Obama’s press secretary, Robert Gibbs, repeatedly tried in vain to rein him in. (“Gibbs will call ‘last question,’” Obama informed reporters as he left for the party.)

“Mr. President, I get the feeling that you're happier to be here commenting and giving advice than governing,” CBS’s Mark Knoller said to Clinton.

“Oh, I had quite a good time governing,” Clinton replied. “I am happy to be here.”

Obama seemed to convey just the opposite feeling. He had met privately with Clinton in the Oval Office for over an hour before the two decided at the last minute to make an appearance in front of the cameras, but he stayed in the briefing room only about 90 seconds.

“I thought, given the fact that he presided over as good an economy as we've seen in our lifetimes, that it might useful for him to share some of his thoughts,” Obama said before turning the podium over to Clinton. “I'm going to let him speak very briefly, and then I've actually got to go over and do some – just one more Christmas party. So he may decide he wants to take some questions, but I wanted to make sure that you guys heard from him directly.”

When the first question came from a reporter he responded by saying: “I've been keeping the first lady waiting for about half an hour, so I'm going to take off.”

“Well, I don't want to make her mad,” Clinton joked. “Please go.”

For a press corps obsessed this week with comparing Clinton and Obama, the contrast was right in front of them.

“First of all, I feel awkward being here, and now you're going to leave me all by myself?” Clinton joked, getting a smile out of his successor.

But even before Obama left Clinton alone, the former president was the center of attention. One of the cable television shots had completely blocked Obama out, even as he stood by Clinton’s side, his arms crossed, nodding occasionally while his predecessor delved into his thinking on the tax cuts compromise.

As he tries to figure out how to navigate the new political landscape in Washington, Obama reached out to Clinton, who successfully restructured his presidency after suffering a similar blow in the 1994 midterm elections by tacking to the center, a move that angered his liberal base but helped him win a second term. Obama requested the meeting with Clinton several weeks ago. It was the first time since his party’s defeat last month that he has met with Clinton, who was a dominant fixture on the 2010 campaign trail.

Clinton said he recommended to Obama that he read a lecture Franklin Roosevelt gave in 1926 on the dilemma of the progressive movement in American politics.

“After the '94 election, I said the American people, in their infinite wisdom, they put us both in the same boat, so we're going to either row or sink,” Clinton recalled. “And I want us to row.”

One reporter pointed out that Clinton’s endorsement might not persuade Democrats who are angry over Obama’s compromise on the Bush tax cuts, which some of them view as Clintonesque.

“There is no way you can have a compromise without having something in the bill that you don't like,” Clinton said. “So, I don't know if I can influence anybody. Heck, I couldn't – you know, I'd go some places and the people I campaigned for won, in some places the people I campaigned for lost. I don't know. All I can tell you is what I think.”

Clinton said what he thought about politics, the deficit, Haiti and other topics, including throwing his support behind Senate ratification of the new START treaty, which Republicans have threatened to block.

He said he had not been asked to lobby Democrats on the Hill to support the tax cuts plan, as Obama called on him to do during the debate over health care reform. But, explaining that he spends about an hour a day studying the economy, he made a strong pitch for Democrats in Congress to support the deal.

“So for whatever it’s worth, that's what I think,” he said.

“That’s worth a lot,” Obama replied.

Clinton said he had not been asked to lobby Democrats on the Hill to support the tax cuts plan, as Obama called on him to do during the debate over health care reform. He also said TK.

The relationship between Clinton and Obama has not always been smooth. Tensions were high during the2008 Democratic primary fight between Obama and Hillary Clinton. President Clinton later campaigned for Obama after he won the nomination in 2008, and the two have met several times since Obama took office.

Gibbs described their relationship now as “very warm.” “There’s a unique bond between those that have done this job and those that have sat in that office during good times and bad, during domestic and foreign crises,” he told reporters Friday.

Neither president would say on Friday what advice was exchanged.

“I have a general rule, which is that it -- whatever he asks me about my advice and whatever I say should become public only if he decides to make it public,” Clinton said, as Obama stood silent. “He can say whatever he wants.”

At which point, Obama headed to the holiday party.
"

12/11/2010 1:47:46 AM

rbrthwrd
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Was Bill there to announce that Hillary was resigning?

12/11/2010 11:52:22 AM

kdogg(c)
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"Nevermind about Hillary jumping the Admin.

There's no need now that the President has asked her husband, the President, to save the country.
"

12/11/2010 12:16:39 PM

rbrthwrd
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as long as you keep this at the top so we can see how wrong you were

12/11/2010 12:27:44 PM

kdogg(c)
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That's the plan.

Until I'm proved right (about resigning...the November thing is a lost cause, I see this now).

12/11/2010 12:55:06 PM

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