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ambrosia1231
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With IUDs, it's a valid question I can only assume it refers to things like initial placement, safe sex practices and...fuck if I know. I've always wondered that, when it came to IUDs


For things like the pill, it'd refer to taking it consistently, at the same time every day, not ingesting things that'll reduce effectiveness. Examples for the patch would include not being over the weight limit, applying to a proper location, and changing as scheduled.


Perfect/ideal/as prescribed vs real life usage.

9/23/2010 12:49:33 PM

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Maybe people manage to yank it out and not notice. (Ridiculous, yes, but if people manage to have babies and "not notice" it's totally feasible.)

9/23/2010 12:54:08 PM

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FAIL on IUD stats.

I asked my doctor, about 10% of women have them taken out within 6 months. So that's a 10.8% failure rate. Fuck that, I'd rather get the permanent solution (essure or tubal ligation).

9/23/2010 12:55:09 PM

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What exactly do those probabilities mean, btw? Probability of getting pregnant per sexual encounter with no other protective measures? Probability of getting pregnant per year? Per time that you would have gotten pregnant if it hadn't been in place? It's important to know exactly what you're reading, because if you're still getting it on like a fiend, you're significantly at risk under some interpretations but not others. Even 99% means you'll likely be getting pregnant at some point if you're having sex 4-5 times a week.

9/23/2010 1:04:45 PM

Skwinkle
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I believe it's the percentage of people who got pregnant in a year

9/23/2010 1:06:51 PM

lewoods
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Yup, unless they have a calculated lifetime failure rate it's per year.

Lifetime for the filshe clips is 2%, so I might make the boy get fixed too.

9/23/2010 1:08:39 PM

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"I asked my doctor, about 10% of women have them taken out within 6 months. So that's a 10.8% failure rate."


Patient giving up is not a failure of the device.

I don't expect you to be able to understand the difference, though.

9/23/2010 1:14:51 PM

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^^, ^^^ OK, so that would still vary by individual according to your own habits, then. If you're a rabbit, you might be more likely to be that 1%!

9/23/2010 1:31:53 PM

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does NumbWall already have kids? I'd probably agree with the doctors who are hesitant to do it with young people who don't

9/23/2010 4:04:56 PM

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^ no, i don't have kids, and i want it to remain that way. why do you think doctors should be hesitant? in case people change their minds? i've known i didn't want kids for over a decade. i don't see that changing. i don't think it's a doctor's responsibility to make sure people think things through and don't act impulsively.

9/23/2010 6:03:41 PM

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Actually, that's something a doctor probably should do in the case of any elective surgery, especially if it's purely cosmetic or very difficult to reverse.

It's ultimately the patients choice to get or not get the procedure done, but it's also the doctor's decision about whether or not they feel comfortable being the one to perform it.

9/23/2010 6:12:58 PM

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I don't recommend the home kit.

9/23/2010 8:37:09 PM

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My boy and I are coming up on 3 years; I've had the IUD for pretty much that entire time. We're talking about him getting fixed at 5 yrs, I can't wait! Although I'll probably be lazy and have the IUD left in until its expiration date in 2018, unless it causes complications.

I'd get myself fixed too, if I could find a doctor who would do it. I'm in nursing school for 2 more years, and don't want kids if I haven't had them by now. None of this getting pregnant at 40 crap.

9/23/2010 8:51:28 PM

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http://www.lifescript.com/health/conditions/mens-health/what_you_should_know_about_vasectomy_side_effects.aspx

9/27/2010 8:36:50 PM

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i didn't read this thread, but i'd totally get a vasectomy if my wife and i didn't want kids...as it is right now, after we DO have kids, i'll get one...there's no reason for her to get her tubes tied when the old snip-snip is cheap, effective, and much more easily reversed should that ever be an issue (though ideally it wouldn't)

9/27/2010 9:29:24 PM

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" There is another option though. Has your wife looked into getting herself "fixed"? There is a procedure called Essure that is supposedly less invasive, more effective, and easier than a vasectomy or getting her tubes tied. She would be the one in the doctor's office but it should be covered under a normal co-pay doctor's visit. It may be something to look into. I believe it's http://www.essure.com."


I gotta call BS on that. They still have the thread this thing up through your cervix and into the fallopian tube, and they have to do it twice. I have an IUD and that was NOT a pleasant experience. It wasn't horrible for me, but for some women it's much worse and a guy getting a vasectomy at least gets anesthesia.

Besides, when are men going to take birth control into their own hands? Its always the women getting on pills and shit. And you never hear a woman trying to convince a guy to NOT put a condom on.

9/27/2010 10:15:07 PM

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make sure you get this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zdDfQrPi5Q

9/27/2010 10:25:23 PM

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^^ Isn't this whole thread a bunch of guys talking about doing exactly that?

Also, the Essure thing says that local anesthesia and pain meds are used.

9/27/2010 10:34:06 PM

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"Its always the women getting on pills and shit."

oh, this argument is such a crock...i don't know a single woman that takes birth control for the SOLE purpose of birth control...i'll bet dollars to donuts that the majority of women on BC started it because it regulates their periods...the BC and clearing of acne aspects are just useful side effects

9/27/2010 10:50:53 PM

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maybe its not this way for all women, but when the pill actually regulated my period I got crazy acne. When I took a pill thats supposed to get rid of acne, my sex drive took a nose dive and my period would become irregular. no win.

^^ and yeah I like it when guys actually DO actually think with more than their penis.

9/27/2010 11:13:19 PM

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"i don't know a single woman that takes birth control for the SOLE purpose of birth control"


I do. It's not uncommon for the hormones in BC to make some women crazier then normal, not such a useful side effect. Anyway, they use condoms when they need to scratch an itch but when they get into a relationship they go back on the pill. Relationship ends so does the BC.

9/27/2010 11:21:04 PM

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^ I also got onto the pill about 6 years ago for the purpose of BC....I gained weight, got hormonal and felt tender. It also made me more sensitive to pain, I have no idea why. Getting off the damn pill and getting on the IUD was the best thing ever...I lost 20 pounds, got my pain tolerance back and same with my libido.

The string also went back to where it was supposed to recently, so no more worrying about that problem.

Oh, and Quagmire, if you're on an acne medication like Accutane, you HAVE to also be on birth control, else you'll get flipper babies, and I think even increased risk of miscarriage.

[Edited on September 28, 2010 at 9:03 PM. Reason : oops]

9/28/2010 9:01:11 PM

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shmorri2, a vasectomy is a great idea if you know for a fact you don't wanna have kids. There is another option though. Has your wife looked into getting herself "fixed"? There is a procedure called Essure that is supposedly less invasive, more effective, and easier than a vasectomy or getting her tubes tied. She would be the one in the doctor's office but it should be covered under a normal co-pay doctor's visit. It may be something to look into. I believe it's http://www.essure.com. Good luck with whatever you both choose.



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9/22/2010 10:44:49 AM"


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"As a result of Bayer’s voluntary business decision in 2018 to discontinue the sales and marketing of Essure, the device is no longer available for implantation. There are no changes in the safety profile or effectiveness of Essure."


That sure aged well.

1/8/2024 10:33:58 AM

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never gonna need have one

[Edited on January 8, 2024 at 8:48 PM. Reason : lol, needed to take care of that joke myself before someone else said it]

1/8/2024 8:48:00 PM

StTexan
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I could be one of those pacino deniro sperm spreaders when I am their age

1/8/2024 9:04:11 PM

emnsk
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Exactly

1/8/2024 9:19:51 PM

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"And you never hear a woman trying to convince a guy to NOT put a condom on."


Shit, I have. I've had a girl try to take one off of me.

1/8/2024 11:35:58 PM

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"never gonna have one"


Never say never. Aren't you like 20 years old?

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"Shit, I have. I've had a girl try to take one off of me."


I had a former co-worker try to convince me to finish in her because it would be the best pussy i would ever have, according to her. Don't stick your dick in crazy.

I revived this thread since I have a vasectomy scheduled for later this month. Other than taking it easy and icing my tenders, it sounds like I need to wear compression shorts for a few days afterwards to keep everything close together?

1/9/2024 3:25:51 PM

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Follow the directions on keeping things cold. Wear good support. No marathons the first week. The most unpleasant aspect of mine was the cold iodine wash.

1/9/2024 9:03:43 PM

theDuke866
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Any deleterious after-effects? A friend of mine swears it made bustin' nuts not as enjoyable.

1/10/2024 6:56:26 PM

emnsk
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why risk the 0.1% chance that something can go wrong down there

1/10/2024 7:33:31 PM

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I had absolutely NO negative effects. I did the open-ended procedure by Dr. Charles Monteith in Raleigh (his website is great and very informative https://www.bestvasectomy.com/). I drove myself back home to Carrboro with my stick shift pickup truck after the procedure. I used the compression pants for one night and barely ever even used the frozen peas. Never used any pain meds. After the first night I was almost 95% of normal and even went out and did something less than 24 hours after the procedure. But I noticed no change in anything afterwards. It has been 5.5 years since I got mine done. I also only had to pay $100 back then and everything else was paid by insurance directly, but since then they have stopped submitting the insurance information and now you have to pay for it and then they help you submit for reimbursal.

1/10/2024 7:47:02 PM

emnsk
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"Through professional relationships I established while learning vasectomy I became an active supporter of No-Scalpel Vasectomy International. Through this organization, I was able to participate in international vasectomy missions to the Philippines and Kenya. "


bro's a vasectomy missionary, lmao

1/12/2024 1:11:00 AM

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8 years later, I'm still happy to have mine done.

Mine was scalpel free (he used scissors, haha) and tiny metal clamps.
The other procedure could cauterize the vas ends.

Every once in a while I can feel a clamp get caught on something inside my sac and gives me a .5 second sharp pain. This is maybe a couple times a year, and mostly my imagination determining what is happening.

I also did a whole bunch of shit the day of and over the weekend and completely ignored the rest recommendations, so it all may be my fault.

1/25/2024 12:19:12 PM

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"Every once in a while I can feel a clamp get caught on something inside my sac and gives me a .5 second sharp pain. This is maybe a couple times a year, and mostly my imagination determining what is happening"


1/26/2024 10:33:15 PM

theDuke866
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Yeah that's a hard no from me.

1/27/2024 5:13:02 PM

emnsk
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Can't have your own balls working against you in life

1/27/2024 8:13:21 PM

DonMega
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also had mine done by Monteith last year. No pain during the procedure, no side effects afterwards. wore my jock strap for a couple days to keep things secure

1/27/2024 9:54:47 PM

The Coz
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Cool! Y'all got the same weenie doctor!

1/28/2024 5:54:06 PM

emnsk
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This is starting to feel like a concerted effort to get us all

1/28/2024 9:43:47 PM

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Everything is going great 11 days post-op.
The whole procedure took about 1.5 hours because the doctor's nurse quit on him a few days before and he seemed unorganized. The left side went well and quickly, but he said that I keep my boys close on the right side. Thus he had some grippy trouble on the right.
He was teh fun guy. He taped my member to my abdomen before cutting on me. According to him, he didn't want cut off my weiner accidentally. haha
He showed me the sections of the vas deferens that were cut out. They looked just like angel hair pasta as described. Post-surgical pain is like someone having a loose grip on your testicles. Nothing major. I used frozen peas for less than 2 days. I think all stitches will be dissolved in another few days.

1/29/2024 3:03:33 PM

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1/29/2024 5:08:57 PM

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Dude. I can’t inagine a life where i am like yeah operate on my junk so i can’t skeet

1/29/2024 8:57:26 PM

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oh, you still skeet. it's just not a risky skeet. a riskeet, if you will.

1/29/2024 9:44:51 PM

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^10/10

1/29/2024 9:53:52 PM

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^^^^^ Stitches? I just got a band aid.

1/30/2024 7:40:38 PM

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4 stitches per testicle, IIRC. I jokingly told the doc not to jack up the folds in my scrotum while sewing me up. He basically said that he didn't care because not many people will see the underside of my nuts.
I had my first post-surgery nut today. I was super anxious and kept thinking it would feel like blue balls, but everything went better than expected.

1/30/2024 10:03:23 PM

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^^I just got the band-aid too. Had a small hole in my sac for a couple days but it healed up on it's own with no stitches or any of that shit.

2/2/2024 9:33:46 AM

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I only had a bandaid cuz I ain't no snitch.

2/8/2024 8:14:39 PM

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I had mine done with Monteith about 5 years ago as well. Highly recommend for anyone looking to have the procedure. Drove myself there and home. Was in the building a total of 15 minutes. 2 days later started the process of cleaning out the swimmers. Never any pain or issues. 12/10, would recommend to a friend.

4/8/2024 5:32:08 PM

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