hunting or fishing or just out enjoying nature hav you ever noticed someone taking out of season, or otherwise taking something that is clearly mandated not to be harvested

do you approach them? what is the procedure for reporting. what i mean is at somepoint it is useless and most likely the offender wont be caught but do you do it anyway just to raise awareness that someone is illegally harvesting in a given public land?

i ask because i see things. a guy with two buckets full of bream is most likely over the 20 bream creel limit

10/20/2010 6:31:58 PM

You can report violations at 1-800-662-7137 or 919-707-0040 in Raleigh.

I don't have any experience with poaching, but I have lots of experience with trespassers hunting on private land without permission. We've handled them both ways: approaching them and warning them off or calling the authorities (especially when they're repeat offenders).

10/20/2010 6:43:52 PM

where are you seeing that the limit is only 20. This says there is no limit unless you are on specified waters...
http://www.ncwildlife.org/Regs/2010_11/2010-11_Inland_Fishing.pdf

10/20/2010 6:48:32 PM

10/20/2010 8:27:21 PM

I hunt, kill, cook, feed and compost poachers to nourish my animals and gardens.
Then I grind the bones into flour to make bread, which I feed to wild birds and squirrels.

[/said too much]

10/20/2010 10:39:27 PM

That's between the government and them. I don't give a shit.

10/20/2010 10:47:58 PM

i hear poaching elk will cost you a richard petty autographed rifle

10/20/2010 10:50:19 PM

^ As long as they don't take my Earnhardt. They can take Jr., it sucks.

10/20/2010 11:03:24 PM

This year I've definitely seen a lot of spanish folk fish from the bank from Lake Johnson...It really bugs me cause you are supposed to fish from the peer and not the bank at lake Johnson...and the spanish folk i've seen fish from the peer at Lake Johnson certainly catch over the limit then. I hate how they let it go, cause I feel it encourages other spanish folks to just go to the bank and overfish the area...

10/21/2010 2:04:56 AM

I think you mean Mexican.

[Edited on October 21, 2010 at 6:30 AM. Reason : .]

10/21/2010 6:30:06 AM

One morning when I was bowhunting I had gotten to my blind around 4am and was waiting for the sun to come up when I saw a spotlight sweep over the field. Sure enough, they saw a buck and shot it. Then they went down to it, cut off its antlers and left. I had seen several other deer left like this in the area so I went to the WRC on Centennial Campus and talked to the people there. They ended up setting up a decoy out in the field and eventually caught the assholes.

10/21/2010 8:35:02 AM

Way back in the days when I was hunting in a club up in Roanoke Rapids/Weldon area, there were some guys that would hunt from a boat in the river. They'd run upstream, drift down, and spotlight the banks. You'd hear shots way after dark and pre-dawn and whatnot. We called the wildlife officers and reported it.

They came and set up a robotic decoy buck and caught em. Dudes were on the river and spotlighted it and shot it like six times before they figured it out and tried to run. They took their guns,boats, trucks, trailers and all that shit.

To hear the wildlife officers retell the story was lollers, just from their decoy getting shot so many times, and they'd keep twitching the tail and turning the head, and "blam!" over and over.

10/21/2010 9:39:53 AM

^^ That's fucked up

10/21/2010 9:49:10 AM

How's that fucked up?

BTW, I have a friend who once came up on one of those decoys. He likes to spotlight (not poaching) for fun and came up on a pretty nice buck.
The buck didnt run. He thought it was odd so he got out of his truck and started walking towards it.
He heard a handheld radio key up then realized it was a setup. He turned around and an officer was standing at his truck. The had a few laughs and he went on his way.

10/21/2010 10:21:41 AM

It's fucked up that people would shoot the deer and leave it to rot rather than using its meat.

10/21/2010 10:32:12 AM

^ that and the fact that there is such a large number of "hunters" that are such pussies that they can't hunt in a sporting way in the first place

i realize not ALL hunters are like that, and there are different ways to hunt, but it never ceases to amaze me how many people consider themselves "hunters" when it's obvious that their skills are limited to shining a light and pulling a trigger

10/21/2010 10:53:38 AM

^^i think he had his carets wrong

10/21/2010 10:58:27 AM

Ohh damn. Yes, I thought there was one caret in wolfpackgrrr's post.

10/21/2010 11:01:40 AM

Isn't spotlighting illegal whether you shoot them or not?

10/21/2010 11:30:17 AM

found it:

Quote :

"It is unlawful to use any of the following in taking wild birds or animals: - artificial lights (including laser sights)"

Quote :

"In addition to the prohibition of taking wildlife with the use of artificial light, many counties have local regulations that prohibit shining lights on deer or searching for deer with lights 30 minutes after sunset or after 11 p.m. A color-coded map showing county shining laws is presented on page 52."

Quote :

"The flashing or display of any artificial light between 30 minutes after sunset and 30 minutes before sunrise in any area that is frequented or inhabited by wild deer by any person who has accessible to him or her a firearm, crossbow or other bow and arrow constitutes prima facie evidence of taking deer with the aid of an artificial light."

The second quote tells you whether or not it's legal regardless of whether or not you're "taking wildlife."

[Edited on October 21, 2010 at 12:06 PM. Reason : ]

10/21/2010 11:59:02 AM

Snitches get stitches.

10/21/2010 12:14:43 PM

Quote :

"The flashing or display of any artificial light between 30 minutes after sunset and 30 minutes before sunrise in any area that is frequented or inhabited by wild deer by any person who has accessible to him or her a firearm, crossbow or other bow and arrow constitutes prima facie evidence of taking deer with the aid of an artificial light."

This aligns with my understanding. If they see you shine a light in a field, even if you just turn your car so that it shines on the deer, they will stop you and search your car. If they find any weapon, even a little .22 pistol, they'll hit you with a fine.

I don't care to have my vehicle searched, so I avoid shining deer.

Can you post a link for those quotes?

10/21/2010 12:20:15 PM

I hear shots all the time after dusk walking out of the woods hunting. People hunting over fields with the high powered scopes that pick up a lot of light on a full moon night will drop bucks in a heart beat.

[Edited on October 21, 2010 at 12:43 PM. Reason : s]

10/21/2010 12:43:28 PM

^^ Those laws are particularly shitty for people who own livestock. The lights are still illegal, even if you are checking on a cow that is very near to birthing, etc.

10/21/2010 1:26:12 PM

There are nuisance permits that allow you to take game if they are disturbing your livestock/crops/etc

10/21/2010 1:32:38 PM

arent those for your own private land not public lands or other's private property

10/21/2010 1:35:55 PM

That is on any land regardless of ownership.

http://www.ncwildlife.org/regs/2010_11/2010-11_Hunting.pdf

10/21/2010 1:38:50 PM

well yea that makes sense given deer populations when they allow to take out of season or destroying beaver

i wasnt thinking on that vein

10/21/2010 1:40:23 PM

you don't need a permit to take most animals for depredation

10/21/2010 2:28:31 PM

man of the probably 300 times I have sat on a deerstand:

I have seen a deer maybe 30 times

saw a deer worth size of shooting maybe 10 times

and took shots probably 9 times

and have harvested maybe 3

the whole point of deer hunting is to freeze your ass off early in the morning/ late in the afternoon.

Once at my hunt club growing up in Enfield NC we were out as usual, and heard a shot after I got off my stand and walking back to the fields ( I was wwwwwaaaay in the woods) I met up with my dad and continued on. We were approached by a wildlife officer, who thought we were shooting after dark. Well as it turns out we hear ANOHTER shot now, and without a flashlight there is no way you can see more than 6 feet infront of you.

Well needless to say the game warden was all 'take care guys thanks and be safe' and scooted on out of there.


Now if we had heard the shooting w/o the officer my dad would have called and told them approx time and location relative to ours. This was more than say 14 years ago, so cell phones were not as available as they are now. Now if I were to hear it, I actually do have an 800 number on speed dial (also in case I get in a sticky situation)

But would I approach such people? Heeeeeeeeeelll no. Why? They have guns,are breaking the law,and would probably shoot me. Idiots will eventually get caught.

I mean I don't even like to set out any kind of food for deer, just let them come to the fields where they already are........

[Edited on October 24, 2010 at 12:12 PM. Reason : approaching? shit no]

10/24/2010 12:07:07 PM

No shining laws in Craven or Carteret County

To answer the OP, my dad has reported a couple poachers. Most of the time he just calls the sheriff's office and gets a deputy to come down. The deputy takes his statement and may go talk to the suspect.

[Edited on October 24, 2010 at 12:19 PM. Reason : -]

10/24/2010 12:17:51 PM

^ nice.

I'lll go ahead and say to people who don't like deer hunters (responsible ones at least)

the deer will either starve b/c of overpopulation and their areas being developed

or

for the same reason they will get hit by a car

So more importantly, if hunted legally and properly, they are harvested and eaten. If you like meat, try venison, its better than any other lean meat out there

[Edited on October 24, 2010 at 12:47 PM. Reason : nice]

10/24/2010 12:46:00 PM

i saw a deer jump through the driver-side window of a truck on wilmington st during rush hour traffic last week. i'm guessing he pooped his pants a little...

10/24/2010 5:41:08 PM

Quote :

"and took shots probably 9 times and have harvested maybe 3"

You don't sound like a responsible deer hunter

10/24/2010 9:23:38 PM

Quote :

"This year I've definitely seen a lot of spanish folk fish from the bank from Lake Johnson...It really bugs me cause you are supposed to fish from the peer and not the bank at lake Johnson...and the spanish folk i've seen fish from the peer at Lake Johnson certainly catch over the limit then. I hate how they let it go, cause I feel it encourages other spanish folks to just go to the bank and overfish the area..."

Seriously what is up with all the hispanics at lake johnson these days. I have been gone from ral two years. Before moving I lived right next door at the mews. This year my gf and i have visited the lake twice this fall while in town and the lake was like little mexico. Hell two weeks ago the day after the bc game there was a mexican wedding there

10/24/2010 9:50:46 PM

Quote :

" FISH FROM THE PEER"

10/24/2010 10:08:52 PM

Quote :

"You don't sound like a responsible deer hunter"

or maybe he's just a bad shot?

10/24/2010 10:17:54 PM

^Many people consider it irresponsible to shoot at live animals if you're not a good (practiced) shot.

10/24/2010 10:33:50 PM

I know a few years back one of my neighbors who was a decent hunter, called in a poacher on the property behind us.


Sheriff shows up, ends up getting shot... that was the start of a fun night. We had more cops that night than Ive ever seen looking for this guy. They found the dudes truck, towed it. Camped his house. They got the guy about 3 days later trying to get on a plane to get the hell out of dodge.

10/24/2010 11:41:23 PM

^AHA, that's crazy!

10/25/2010 12:36:56 AM

Quote :

"Once at my hunt club growing up in Enfield NC"

This is the first story from Enfield NC I've ever heard that didn't involve someone getting stabbed. That's a stabby town right there.

10/25/2010 1:37:07 AM

"Way up north where the air is cold,
People ain't got no coal or gold,
If you ask them how they make their livin'
They're killin' the baby seals."

-Old Army Cadence

10/25/2010 4:28:36 AM

[Edited on October 25, 2010 at 4:29 AM. Reason : double post combo!!!]

10/25/2010 4:28:36 AM

Quote :

"Many people consider it irresponsible to shoot at live animals if you're not a good (practiced) shot."

Exactly

10/25/2010 6:31:15 PM