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EMCE
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How much is that shit worth?

What factors go into this equation?
Wealth?
Education?
Lifetime accomplishments?
Family?
Fame?

Seriously, if someone could pay $xxxxx to just off you, what would that amount be?






¤i totally came up with the idea for this thread by myself

1/31/2011 9:23:44 AM

sawahash
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aren't there people that determine the worth of someone's life...like if you get killed from some accident and your family sues for wrongful death or something, isn't there someone that will determine how much your life really was worth?

1/31/2011 9:26:09 AM

LivinProof78
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i've heard from $2,500 - $30,000

i think it's more dependent on the "quality" of the killing party than the to be killed party

1/31/2011 9:27:20 AM

sawahash
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Well I'm probably worth about $200. Gotta buy the gun and the ammo.

1/31/2011 9:29:47 AM

Slave Famous
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Should be your net worth

No one is worth more than their fortune

1/31/2011 9:31:42 AM

Biofreak70
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it's hard to say... i mean, I personally don't have a price that I would think would be acceptable for my own life, but then again, I am a little biased (as I would be for anyone I know/care about). Objectively, from the outside, I guess it would have to be some sort of formula based on what has been invested (on education/training/social networking), and potential for future productivity (what path they were set on) as well as intangibles (ie: a teacher should get a bump that a coat salesman wouldn't- nothing against coat salesmen)

1/31/2011 9:31:42 AM

EMCE
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Yeah, there are people that assign these values to peoples lives.

Interestingly enough, this was a very taboo topic of discussion at my former job. We were doing a cost benefit analysis for the value of a soldiers life vs the cost of integrating this very effective but expensive armour.

1/31/2011 9:35:24 AM

TerdFerguson
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'bout $tree.fiddy

1/31/2011 9:36:42 AM

ThePeter
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^i was gonna post that

^^yeah....that shit gets annoying. An application of my job here could improve a soldier's weapon to hugely improve performance and reliability, but the treatment would have been worth a substantial amount of the gun.

I'm interested to know what the body armor was, since I did work with liquid body armor

1/31/2011 9:39:28 AM

Shaggy
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the price of any human life is what it would cost to replace them. It has nothing to do with their established wealth.

1/31/2011 9:45:16 AM

EMCE
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Not body armour. Aircraft armour.
Who wants to be the asshole that says "Joe Marine is important to me...but not that important" ?

[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 9:47 AM. Reason : L]

1/31/2011 9:46:28 AM

Shaggy
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i dont know if anyone wants to be that guy, but someone has to do it.

1/31/2011 9:47:53 AM

Biofreak70
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that's why I think you have to make a formula for it. It sucks to have to explain why, but at least with that, you have an explanation for the value decided upon

1/31/2011 9:49:03 AM

EMCE
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What's the cost of replacing a smile, Shaggy? How about a hug?

1/31/2011 9:49:32 AM

FykalJpn
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are they mexican? i hear they're worth less

1/31/2011 9:54:12 AM

sumfoo1
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$1.75 wholesale

[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 9:56 AM. Reason : Damn Beat to 3 fiddy]

1/31/2011 9:54:37 AM

tsavla
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"Human life has no value....you have to create your own value by buying insurance policy"


i heard this from a dude selling insurance

1/31/2011 9:55:57 AM

ThePeter
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Ford did this with the Pinto and got in a shit ton of trouble for it...they valued life at about $200k

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"Benefits derived from spending this amount of money were estimated to be $49.5 million. This estimate assumed that each death, which could be avoided, would be worth $200,000, that each major burn injury that could be avoided would be worth $67,000 and that an average repair cost of $700 per car involved in a rear end accident would be avoided. It further assumed that there would be 2,100 burned vehicles, 180 serious burn injuries, and 180 burn deaths in making this calculation. When the unit cost was spread out over the number of cars and light trucks which would be affected by the design change, at a cost of $11 per vehicle, the cost was calculated to be $137 million, much greater then the $49.5 million benefit."


[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 10:06 AM. Reason : actually I think I got that entirely wrong but fuck it I just lih]

1/31/2011 10:05:14 AM

EMCE
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Shit son, my junk alone is insured for $200k

1/31/2011 10:28:22 AM

mrfrog

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There is a calculator online to find your worth. Don't know the address right now.

1/31/2011 10:55:51 AM

Geppetto
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in greensboro it is $250 and a bag of weed.

Why not just $300 and no weed?

I don't understand, in fact, i've never understood.

1/31/2011 11:33:19 AM

dswillia
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$5 lafta bucks

1/31/2011 1:42:37 PM

Spontaneous
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Fifty dorrar

1/31/2011 2:55:04 PM

AstralEngine
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I think it's doubled to about $20k a head now... I think inflation has hit the assassin market way harder than the rest of the economy, I remember when a cool $10k would get anyone whacked for you, no problem.

1/31/2011 3:02:18 PM

Wraith
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"here is a calculator online to find your worth. Don't know the address right now."


This.

It was posted on here a few years ago.

1/31/2011 3:12:24 PM

mrfrog

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Quote :
"This."


Was that an invisi-link?

Tinier than ur tiniest url

1/31/2011 3:14:12 PM

GREEN JAY
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25¢

[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 3:19 PM. Reason : http://www.humanforsale.com]

1/31/2011 3:18:47 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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well i wasn't usin' it

1/31/2011 4:12:40 PM

joe_schmoe
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i think you could probably find some meth head or similar who'd do it for a few hundred. but they wouldn't' be discrete and likely would fuck it up and get caught and rat you out.

so i guess it's the professionalism of the hitman that you have to pay a minimum of a few thousand for. and i suppose any base rate assumes a normal, unprotected target. if you were going after a public figure or a crime boss, the cost would go up as the difficulty increases.

i wonder if theres any sort of cost structure published on the web.








[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 5:07 PM. Reason : ]

1/31/2011 5:02:57 PM

Skack
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Quote :
"Interestingly enough, this was a very taboo topic of discussion at my former job. We were doing a cost benefit analysis for the value of a soldiers life vs the cost of integrating this very effective but expensive armour."


Do I even want to know the results or would it just anger me?

[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 6:09 PM. Reason : l]

1/31/2011 6:08:59 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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isn't this what edward norton did in Fight Club before he went nuts?

1/31/2011 6:11:08 PM

EMCE
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It would probably anger you.

1/31/2011 6:13:17 PM

theDuke866
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Quote :
"Interestingly enough, this was a very taboo topic of discussion at my former job. We were doing a cost benefit analysis for the value of a soldiers life vs the cost of integrating this very effective but expensive armour."


We had a similar thing when I was working a staff job in Qatar for CENTCOM. It became a running joke that you couldn't do anything without someone "throwing a dead soldier at you." Higher-ups would balk at doing the sensible, smart thing, if anyone could make the case that conceivably, someone could die as a result.

You cannot fucking run a war with the mindset of not accepting any casualties. It sucks, but trying to do so can sometimes result in more casualties in the long run. I used to get so fucking frustrated at generals who just could not seem to grasp the big picture on things, when THEY are supposed to be the big picture guys, and I, as a Captain, should be more of a hired gun for the details.

1/31/2011 6:20:18 PM

CheesyLabia
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about tree fiddy

1/31/2011 6:24:07 PM

McDanger
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"Who wants to be the asshole that says "Joe Marine is important to me...but not that important" ?"


Politicians

1/31/2011 6:40:12 PM

Chop
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came here for the tree.fiddy

was not disappointed

1/31/2011 7:02:51 PM

hunterb2003
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$3.50

approximately

1/31/2011 7:11:37 PM

sawahash
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That website says I'm worth $1,077,202

1/31/2011 8:38:54 PM

raiden
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a dollar

1/31/2011 8:41:37 PM

Joie
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according to that website

$2,593,230

1/31/2011 9:08:35 PM

EMCE
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according to that website

I think they took off a few million because I'm black



[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 9:15 PM. Reason : cheating]

1/31/2011 9:13:56 PM

Joie
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or added a few!


maybe they took off a few million because im female

1/31/2011 9:20:39 PM

piddlebug
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$1,774,488

According to the site

1/31/2011 9:20:55 PM

EMCE
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mine was really:



I really just wanted to see if that old h4x worked

1/31/2011 9:22:02 PM

Joie
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i have no idea what my iq is.

i put 115....

1/31/2011 9:37:24 PM

shmorri2
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I was not expecting that... (I thought I was worth less for sure)

I'm sure finishing college will bump me up some...

[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 9:57 PM. Reason : .]

1/31/2011 9:57:40 PM

Supplanter
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A policy analysis class I took discussed the statistical value of a human life used by the EPA, although I'm sure other agencies use such a thing and may have different numbers. I think it was somewhere between 5 to 8 million, I don't remember exactly.

And that number was determined by peoples average willingness to pay. I'm sure they have a really complex way of coming up with it, but one of the basic examples that was offered in class was how fast people drive. The time saved and extra productivity trade off versus the increased chance of a serious wreck. It had some sense to it. How much would you pay for a helmet when you want to ride a bike, where is the cut off for risk of injury to the point that it isn't worth it. There are many ways in our everyday lives that we make value judgment on what our life is worth, by how much risk we will accept.

A funny example I remember the professor discussing with the EPA trying to make its cost-benefit anaylses more effective, by rating things differently based on age. The statistical value of a human life of a 90 year old to the EPA then should be very low. Whether or not we spend a lot of money on global warming really isn't going to affect their risk level. Whereas the value of a statistical human life for a 18 year old would be much higher to the EPA because they're going to have to endure the environmental experience for a much longer period of time.

So they tried to make this change that would actually help old people. Their cost benefit analyses that help them decide policy would better represent old people's interests. But then the AARP got word that the EPA was saying old people had less value and lobbied the new system to death, thus hurting old people. My professor said his friend in the EPA was pushing for the term "millimorts" rather than statistical value of a human life because people only hear "value of a human life." I'm not sure how that turned out though.

1/31/2011 10:28:07 PM

theDuke866
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"I think they took off a few million because I'm black"


True. I think the going rate is 3/5.

1/31/2011 10:32:32 PM

guitarzan
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Maybe value should be assigned according to expected productivity/contribution to society.

1/31/2011 10:37:15 PM

eleusis
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Quote :
"You are worth exactly $3,363,164"


I'm going to go apply for a loan and use myself as collateral.

[Edited on January 31, 2011 at 10:49 PM. Reason : I changed my race to "black" and it said I owed $50. then it told me to get a job.]

1/31/2011 10:48:42 PM

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