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You got kdogg'd

12/1/2017 7:01:05 PM

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Cory Booker's live stream is on point

https://www.facebook.com/corybooker/videos/10157467061267228/?hc_ref=ARShWTRNCmXgW5kIHz8EhWJkPZsGkd2R1pFcVWYOoXn5UDvr4AjKkWK0pEwPk8MEnQE

12/1/2017 9:45:08 PM

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"revealing they only care about keeping illegal aliens in the country, are soft on crime, and want to raise taxes and shut down the government."


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"^^How does that reveal anything other than they won't put up with his antics?

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That was the exchange

12/1/2017 10:01:20 PM

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/04/ex-florida-democratic-rep-corrine-brown-sentenced-for-mail-wire-and-tax-fraud-involving-sham-charity.html

12/5/2017 11:16:27 AM

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Gradulate!



[Edited on December 5, 2017 at 11:49 AM. Reason : a]

12/5/2017 11:49:21 AM

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Conyers stepping down today now.

Still -1 credibility for the harassment issues alone.

12/5/2017 12:43:18 PM

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Four female Dem Senators called on Franken to resign this morning. They are right.

12/6/2017 11:41:21 AM

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let's see if the democratic machine can find a video of her dancing

12/6/2017 11:45:17 AM

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...or grabbing a guy's ass

I didn't think the picture was a big deal, but yeah, supposedly there are seven other accusers, and if they're legit, he needs to step down.

12/6/2017 11:49:37 AM

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yeah, maybe there is a video of her dancing with someone who then grabs her ass and she grabs his back

12/6/2017 11:50:43 AM

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but, but, but what if the guy didn't grab her ass back because he felt violated instead??? That would be assault. But if he grabs her back, then everything is cool.

12/6/2017 11:54:20 AM

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that's a good idea, maybe the democratic machine can find men to accuse the 7 women of assaulting them first

12/6/2017 11:58:18 AM

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Really looking forward to Franken's presidential candidacy announcement during tomorrow's press conference.

12/6/2017 1:27:23 PM

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if franken resigns will you make a public post about how the democratic party is more credible than the GOP?

12/6/2017 1:34:38 PM

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The fact that the GOP already elected a President embroiled in several sexual misconduct accusations really already put the Dems on plus credibility in comparison. Though really, both parties are trash.

12/6/2017 1:46:14 PM

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/i-believe-frankens-accusers-because-he-groped-me-too/547691/?utm_source=atltw

12/6/2017 3:48:06 PM

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He should have resigned nearly 3 weeks ago when all of this came out. It pisses me off some of you people were defending him, but now you're trying to jump on the bandwagon to say "well at least we will have the credibility upper hand"

12/6/2017 3:50:41 PM

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They are only trying to strategically time it to have the greatest impact on next week's election

12/6/2017 3:55:36 PM

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^^^ i was the one who made the credibility post and i never defended franken

[Edited on December 6, 2017 at 4:09 PM. Reason : .]

12/6/2017 4:09:31 PM

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neither did I

12/6/2017 4:22:53 PM

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<--defended Franken and still thinks this is all a Roger Stone Production (tm)

12/6/2017 5:50:27 PM

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^^, ^^^ clearly over ^'d

12/6/2017 6:07:10 PM

thegoodlife3
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wasn't replying to him

12/6/2017 6:53:16 PM

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if you say so

12/6/2017 7:26:23 PM

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glad to see you're on the case, though

12/6/2017 7:32:19 PM

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it's nice to be appreciated

12/6/2017 7:50:58 PM

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"The fact that the GOP already elected a President embroiled in several sexual misconduct accusations really already put the Dems on plus credibility in comparison."

The Kennedys and Clintons agree with this statement.

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"if franken resigns will you make a public post about how the democratic party is more credible than the GOP?"

It depends on what your definition of is, is.

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"He should have resigned nearly 3 weeks ago when all of this came out. It pisses me off some of you people were defending him, but now you're trying to jump on the bandwagon to say "well at least we will have the credibility upper hand""


Exactly. This shouldn't be some sort of partisan issue. If you are a sexual predator, you shouldn't be a senator, no matter what your party affiliation is.

[Edited on December 6, 2017 at 9:02 PM. Reason : plural]

12/6/2017 9:02:11 PM

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"Exactly. This shouldn't be some sort of partisan issue. If you are a sexual predator, you shouldn't be a senator, no matter what your party affiliation is."


Not just a senator - but in any public position at all. My issue with it all - and yes it was handled very poorly from a Democrat standpoint -is the level of hypocrisy and non-reciprocity involving the same (somewhat even worse in the case of Moore) issues.

I mean the whole quote of "some of you dems defended him" is so outrageous (albeit not incorrect) when we have a sitting president that has admitted to the exact same things.

12/7/2017 8:24:54 AM

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it's hilarious seeing the talking heads on Fox News now defend franken and call this a democratic witch hunt, looks like their bluff got called

12/7/2017 9:48:48 AM

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Franken is going to make a speech to the senate at 11:45

Democrats are calling on Franken to resign, meanwhile the Republican party is endorsing and supporting a child predator

12/7/2017 10:24:49 AM

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There's also a huge difference between "I don't think he actually groped her without her permission" and "Of course he banged that 14 year old, good for him!" Because that's the difference between a Franken supporter and a Moore supporter right now.

12/10/2017 2:46:12 AM

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I get that you are speaking hypothetically, but as of now, Moore supporters don't acknowledge the credibility of any of the allegations...

12/10/2017 12:40:43 PM

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I'm not speaking hypothetically. Actual people have said that.

12/10/2017 1:50:12 PM

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"There's also a huge difference between "I don't think he actually groped her without her permission" and "Of course he banged that 14 year old, good for him!" Because that's the difference between a Franken supporter and a Moore supporter right now."


If it's good enough for Jesus' step dad...

12/10/2017 7:51:17 PM

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I wasn't around before Clinton but the precedent for ignoring what a politician does in his personal life was definitely set with the Lewinski scandal. His scandals were far worse than what we are seeing now, on the job, and lied about under oath. There is no way he would survive that today.

12/10/2017 8:09:11 PM

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Lewinski was also a consensual relationship right? Even if it was a dick move these cases aren't really the same.

12/11/2017 2:40:36 PM

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So the consensual aspect may be debatable. A lot of harassment arguments in general center on whether the person was in a position of power or not.

12/11/2017 3:36:10 PM

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where can i bet on if the DNC adopts this?
DNC 'unity' panel recommends huge cut in superdelegates
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/09/dnc-superdelegates-unity-commission-288634

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"A commission set up to help reform the Democratic presidential nominating process has voted to restrict the number of superdelegates as part of a slew of changes.

The Democratic Party’s Unity Reform Commission is recommending cutting the number of superdelegates by about 400, equal to a 60 percent reduction. Many of the remaining superdelegates would see their vote tied to the results in their state.

The commission is also suggesting that absentee voting be required as an option for presidential caucus participants. It is calling for automatic voter registration and same-day voter registration. And it wants to mandate public reporting of raw vote totals from caucus states.

The recommendations will now go to the Democratic National Committee’s rules and bylaws committee, and then likely to the full 447-member Democratic National Committee for consideration sometime next year, where it will need two-thirds support to pass.
[...]"

12/11/2017 3:36:39 PM

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Another great headline from the DNC Unity Reform Commission:

Nomiki Konst calls out DNC leaders for corruption and dishonesty
https://youtu.be/UGpMCs7ZAi0

related: is TYT still trash or did it get good again?

12/11/2017 3:41:20 PM

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^^https://www.metaculus.com/questions/

https://www.betmoose.com/

^wow that's a good video. found this as a related video:

https://youtu.be/qL7-dzvm58A?t=129

[Edited on December 11, 2017 at 5:51 PM. Reason : a]

12/11/2017 5:45:34 PM

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If anyone was wondering why the clinonists purged all the progressives in the DNC recently, this is why. The rules and bylaws committee is now safely establishment clintonists who can quickly reject the rules that threaten their power.

And all of the "we need party unity, not infighting!" clintonists will be noticeably silent as the party rejects the the few compromises the progressives got in the panel established to create party unity (a panel in which progressives were outnumbered)

But hey, at least people are starting to make fun of r/neoliberal so we got that going for us which is nice

12/12/2017 3:49:01 PM

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It’s hilarious to see Democrats think McConnell will consider for a second delaying the tax vote like they did for Scott Brown and healthcare in 2010. Idealistic fools. No wonder the GOP controls everything.

12/13/2017 11:27:46 AM

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did they think they would actually wait, or were they just calling our republicans for their hypocrisy

12/13/2017 11:36:06 AM

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the latter

12/13/2017 11:37:51 AM

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^^,^ that is their entire platform
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"Lewinski was also a consensual relationship right? Even if it was a dick move these cases aren't really the same."

That one was so much worse because it happened (literally) in office. Most of these other cases happened so long ago. Franken's resignation was a political move to gain leverage. They will maintain the seat and picked up the Alabama seat because of it. Smart sacrifice bunt.

At this rate, I expect elections will become full-on canonization processes where white smoke will be released from the capital dome to indicate the time the most righteous candidate has been found.

[Edited on December 14, 2017 at 1:13 AM. Reason : k]

12/14/2017 1:13:26 AM

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^ having a consensual relationship regardless of where it occurs, when it occurs, and if it is morally right or not will never be worse than sexual harassment. Ever. Period.

/end

12/14/2017 8:11:00 AM

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^uhh Lewinsky was Clinton's employee...

Do you assume she initiated the relationship? (or has this been stated and I don't know) given Clinton's history, I assume he initiated, which is sexual harassment even if she was into it

12/14/2017 8:29:11 AM

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I think under the law, even if it was consensual, if it involved someone in a position of power they can go down for harrassment

12/14/2017 8:30:09 AM

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I stand corrected in the rule of law.

12/14/2017 8:41:06 AM

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someone missed HR day at the office

12/14/2017 9:44:06 AM

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