katiencbabe All American 1791 Posts user info edit post |
Can't get on the network!
http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2011/0421/PlayStation-network-down-after-launch-of-several-new-games
Quote : | "The official Sony blog says that, far from a momentary network hiccup, users should expect the site to be down for as long as two days.
The service outage has locked users out from playing many Sony PlayStation games online, including four brand new releases. The outage coincides with the release of Mortal Kombat, Portal 2, SOCOM 4, and inFAMOUS 2's beta release. Users on Sony's blog page have been particularly vocal about not being able to play Mortal Kombat and the inFAMOUS 2 beta release. Dozens of other PlayStation games capable of network-play will be locked out for the next 24-48 hours.
What makes this more frustrating to users is the possibility that the network error is due to an intentional hack of Sony's network. The Sony blog message reportedly addressed "the possibility of targeted behavior by an outside party," but has since removed any reference to being hacked.
The hacker group Anonymous already took down several Sony sites earlier this year and received international attention after taking down the websites of Amazon, Visa, MasterCard, and PayPal in 2010. This time, however, Anonymous is not claiming responsibility.
The DDoS attacks, made famous after Anonymous' retaliation for the Wikileaks shutdown, were used again earlier this month on various Sony sites. The Low Orbit Ion Cannon (LOIC) was the sci-fi-sounding tool Anonymous used, but it did not bring the network down completely like it was brought down last night. Earlier this year, after Anonymous' hack, Sony engineers said the attacks were only "medium strength" and were more of an annoyance to engineers than anything else.
If the network was hacked, Sony is sure to be addressing the security holes over the next day or two to see that it doesn't happen again. Either way, PlayStation users are up in arms over the timing of this outage." |
4/22/2011 1:15:26 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
OH NO
YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE
OR TALK TO SOMEONE 4/22/2011 1:16:23 PM |
katiencbabe All American 1791 Posts user info edit post |
^that isn't how i wanted to spend my day off 4/22/2011 1:16:57 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
i thought i was a nerd
but this shit takes the cake
a goddamn slave to a network cable, christ 4/22/2011 1:20:34 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
BREAKING NEWS!
though i would be a little pissed too if I had the day off, it's 50 and pouring rain here. 4/22/2011 1:22:41 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
READ A BOOK
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have a season of Tecmo Super Bowl to finish. 4/22/2011 1:24:44 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
haha. people were fine with Anonymous fucking around with random websites. How big would the blowback be over this? even funnier to see that Sony is still running ads for those new games, touting the multi-player part of it a great deal. talk about bad marketing
[Edited on April 22, 2011 at 10:52 PM. Reason : ] 4/22/2011 10:51:05 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Get off your high horse. You spin fucking records. gg 4/23/2011 12:30:13 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
books fucking suck 4/23/2011 9:59:15 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
This ruins my weekend 4/23/2011 11:26:21 AM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
lol who got deleted? 4/23/2011 11:36:35 AM |
Specter All American 6575 Posts user info edit post |
hey now failed at closing a comment tag so Azaka did it on his behalf, making the ultimate sacrifice in the process.] 4/23/2011 11:57:56 AM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.pcworld.com/article/226128/sony_makes_it_official_playstation_network_hacked.html/ 4/23/2011 12:22:03 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just gonna play FF VII while I wait. 4/23/2011 12:36:57 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
this is why its always nice to have some games lying around with good single player 4/23/2011 1:15:21 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
vinylbandit is such a douche
and not a very good goaltender either 4/23/2011 1:36:25 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
And OblIVion. 4/24/2011 8:39:55 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
ahahaha
I can imagine Katie sitting in the corner with the shakes, randomly spewing random phrases from Call of Duty and yelling at imaginary noobs.
Does suck that it happened on the weekend, I'm sure there were more than a few people who were productive members of society during the week and were looking forward to shooting some strangers over the weekend.
[Edited on April 24, 2011 at 9:14 PM. Reason : The woman doesn't do single player, if she isn't embarassing a real live person it loses something] 4/24/2011 9:13:51 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
The annoying part for me was trying to get Netflix to work for my girlfriend who had come over to wait for me until I got home from work. But she was resourceful and had a book to read instead. 4/25/2011 3:10:40 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
I'm using Netflix on the PS3 right now. 4/25/2011 3:14:17 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
4/25/2011 3:17:10 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
lolz 4/25/2011 3:22:24 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ya netflix works, makes you try to sign in twice, then lets you watch 4/25/2011 5:05:09 PM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
Some interesting speculation from reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/gx6o4/im_a_moderator_over_at_psxscenecom_the_real/
Quote : | "Ok, I've seen a bunch of speculation of why people think PSN is down, and I thought I should just post what the community knows in comparison to what Sony is telling everyone. The truth is, there was a new CFW (custom firmware) released known as Rebug (http://rebug.me). It essentially turns a retail console into a dev console (not fully, but gives you a lot of the same options that usually dev's only have access to). Anyway, this new CFW was quickly figured out to give CFW users access to the PSN network again via the dev networks. With a little manipulation of the URL's through a proxy server you could get your hacked console back online. Not that big of a deal, right? Well, it also turns out that some people over at NGU found out that you could provide fake CC# info and the authenticity of the information was never checked as you were on Sony's private developer PSN network (essentially a network that Sony trusted). What happened next was extreme piracy of PSN content. Sony realizing the issue here shut down the network. Now, before you go freaking out about the latest information posted about Kotaku, no ones personal information was accessible via this hack. Not to say they couldn't get it, but no one is admitting to it being available. Anyway, that's the real reason for the PSN downtime. Sony is now rebuilding all of it's PSN servers to be more secure and (hopefully) make sure the CFW users cannot get online anymore.
Edit: To those of you saying that this is speculation, you are correct. But, it is speculation based on a lot of facts and the outcome seems to make the most sense.
1. Rebug was released on 3/31/11. 2. First guides of how to use the dev network to get back on COD games on 4/3/11. 3. Word of "shady" sites finding a way to pirate PSN content via the dev networks on 4/7/11 (basing this on posts I had to delete on the website). 4. PSN goes down on 4/20/11
Now, you can believe Sony's PR team which has kept you completely in the dark, or you can see the list of events above and come to your own conclusion. Now, this isn't the first time Sony has fought back against the PS3 modders from getting on PSN. A couple of months ago we had a utility called f*ckPSN that changed the necessary header information that was being sent to Sony to allow modified consoles back online. We were able to use it for about a month. Then came the new TOS, the mass e-mail to PS3 customers, and software update 3.56 and 3.60. So, once again, yes this is all speculation, but it is speculation based on previous actions and known facts." |
4/25/2011 5:24:50 PM |
ajgoff1286 All American 2585 Posts user info edit post |
Just bought a PS3 today finally. Fucking sucks that it's down 4/25/2011 6:13:50 PM |
newblueblood Veteran 101 Posts user info edit post |
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2011/04/psn-update-sony-isnt-sure-your-credit-card-data-is-safe.ars
Quote : | "Sony isn't saying much about the PlayStation Network outage, but a new update doesn't give us much hope for a speedy resolution. Even worse is the fact the company doesn't seem to know if your financial data has been compromised. Sleep tight!
Satoshi Fukuoka, a spokesman for Sony Computer Entertainment in Tokyo, spoke with PCWorld and claimed the company "has not yet determined if the personal information or credit card numbers of users have been compromised, but that Sony would promptly inform users if it found that was the case."
Luckily, Sony's Patrick Seybold has yet another update to let us all know that Sony doesn't have much of a clue about when this mess will get fixed. "Unfortunately, I don't have an update or timeframe to share at this point in time," he wrote. "As we previously noted, this is a time intensive process and we're working to get them back online quickly. Will keep you updated with information as it becomes available. We once again thank you for your patience."
Since you can't play your games online, why not use that extra time to double-check your credit and debit card records?" |
4/25/2011 6:19:39 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
4/25/2011 6:20:00 PM |
wolfdawg4 All American 5866 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just glad I can still stream Netflix with the PSN down. 4/25/2011 6:29:47 PM |
Mattallica All American 6512 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i had a xbox and it broke 2 times
plus i had to pay for online play
why would i get another one?
don't try and drag me down with your horrible decision. 4/25/2011 7:04:53 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Playstation has online gaming?
Lol, tell me another, human
[Edited on April 25, 2011 at 7:15 PM. Reason : m] 4/25/2011 7:14:43 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
what are the chances sony does anything for users to try to make up for this
i say somewhere between 0 and 1/99999999999999999 4/25/2011 10:24:19 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe for the plus members since they are paying for extra features through PSN. Otherwise, I don't really feel like they owe us anything. I mean, it sucks that we haven't been able to play online for a week, but I'd rather it'd be the case than having a lot of personal information easily available. It's still Sony's fault but I can't imagine they'd offer any kind of compensation. 4/25/2011 10:38:18 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
i really like sony and the ps3 but they are super pwnt with the release of Mortal Kombat and Socom 4 today, two games that have huge multiplayer/psn implications. 4/26/2011 9:24:37 AM |
BSTE02 All American 1493 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm just glad I can still stream Netflix with the PSN down." |
How can you?
It asks me to sign in PSN...I obviously can't...then it says you cannot use Netflix without signing in.4/26/2011 9:58:58 AM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
because you're a quitter. just keep trying. 4/26/2011 10:46:58 AM |
Budiss All American 2348 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yeah it takes two failed attempts. 4/26/2011 10:50:27 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
I'm kinda bummed and frustrated by this, but on the plus side I've been too busy in the past week to do any online game playing. However one thing that really sucks is that I had all my GT5 B-Spec drivers shared for online play...thus they're all stuck online and inaccessible for me to use them in the game offline 4/26/2011 11:06:25 AM |
Shadowrunner All American 18332 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I got lucky with that and had four of them set locally doing an Endurance race when the network went down. 4/26/2011 11:18:56 AM |
Byrn Stuff backpacker 19058 Posts user info edit post |
I was on spring break and finishing up the Portal 2 singleplayer campaign. I was looking forward to all that free time letting me tackle the multiplayer before the kids came back to school. Oh well. 4/26/2011 11:51:44 AM |
BSTE02 All American 1493 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like all personal data was compromised.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/26/update-on-playstation-network-and-qriocity/ 4/26/2011 4:16:19 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
I'd be pretty pissed if I spent a day off to play video games and couldn't play them. 4/26/2011 4:23:40 PM |
disco_stu All American 7436 Posts user info edit post |
And your login was definitely compromised and your credit card #s were likely compromised. 4/26/2011 4:41:25 PM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
Son of a... Sony screwed up big time here. 4/26/2011 4:44:13 PM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
haha good thing the cc on file was expired and long since replaced.... sucks that this shit happened though (and that my copy of Tiger Woods just got here and I can't do any online play :-/ ) 4/26/2011 7:29:00 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Maybe for the plus members since they are paying for extra features through PSN. Otherwise, I don't really feel like they owe us anything. I mean, it sucks that we haven't been able to play online for a week, but I'd rather it'd be the case than having a lot of personal information easily available. It's still Sony's fault but I can't imagine they'd offer any kind of compensation." |
disagree on the first part. the worst case scenario outlined in the 2nd part is probably true. the 3rd part, i agree on.
just b/c i dont pay for Plus doesnt mean i'm not entitled to access to PSN and that there isnt some value associated with this. The PSN is an understood part of the purchase of a PS3 and any PS3 games. If you purchase a COD, for instance, you are essentially purchasing because of hte existence of PSN. Nobody buys that game solely for the single player.4/26/2011 7:36:52 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Son of a... Sony screwed up big time here.
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They have known for a week and are just NOW telling us our personal info was compromised? And we should put fraud alerts on our credit? Wow. Im a bit of a Sony homer, but this shit pisses me off.
I can understand having your shit hacked, there are some pretty smart people out there...but not telling people so they can protect themselves is inexcusable.4/26/2011 10:50:42 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43410 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah my CC on file is no longer valid since I lost it and had it replaced last month. Still, that's some BS. 4/27/2011 9:27:43 AM |
Byrn Stuff backpacker 19058 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/109587-Sony-Claims-It-Told-Users-of-PSN-Info-Breach-Immediately
Quote : | "Sony didn't tell PSN users that personal information had been compromised right away because it took some time to figure out what happened." |
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2011/04/26/clarifying-a-few-psn-points/
Quote : | "There’s a difference in timing between when we identified there was an intrusion and when we learned of consumers’ data being compromised. We learned there was an intrusion April 19th and subsequently shut the services down. We then brought in outside experts to help us learn how the intrusion occurred and to conduct an investigation to determine the nature and scope of the incident." |
4/27/2011 11:26:48 AM |
se7entythree YOSHIYOSHI 17377 Posts user info edit post |
so how concerned do i need to be about this? i've changed a couple of accounts that used the same password. do i really need to call the credit agencies to put a fraud alert on my account or whatever? 4/27/2011 10:34:06 PM |