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FenderFreek
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Did that thing not sell a while back, or did you just decide to hang onto it?

5/22/2011 8:41:48 AM

smoothcrim
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still hasn't sold. If if I happen ton find a deal on some handling/ergo goodies for the bike I'll set it up to race heavyweight twins but as it sits that bike doesn't jive right with me enough for me to be competitive on it.

5/22/2011 8:55:15 AM

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What're you lookin to get for it? Is it street legal atm?

5/22/2011 9:08:32 AM

smoothcrim
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lookin to get 2k, it's street legal but doesn't run (wiring harness and/or fuel pump)

5/22/2011 9:54:37 AM

FenderFreek
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2K is great, assuming you've got the skills to replace the pump and/or wiring. The engine in that bike is an absolute beast.

5/23/2011 11:07:35 AM

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i want a fatbob or fatboy. however, anything that really fits that look and style of a big cruiser with quality and not that hard to learn on is paramount.

6/3/2011 6:26:45 PM

FenderFreek
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If you're a new rider that last thing you want is a big, heavy, air cooled twin. It's like driving a boat, you just look cooler. Their 883's aren't bad for handling and weight, but the seat and suspension leaves much to be desired.

6/4/2011 3:23:36 PM

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this may be the wrong thread for this but here goes...

I'm looking to get a dirt bike for the first time. I'm 5'10 175 lbs. Was thinking a 125 for the first bike unless y'all think I should go 250.

My friend has a 2005 Yamaha TTR-125 for sale that she's trying to get $1,000 for. She says it needs a new battery but she rebuilt the carb last summer and everything else is great on it. She said she'll put the batter in this weekend and take it out to her farm to make sure it's smooth.

does this seem like a good deal? I can't find anything that new on craiglist for close to that price, let alone a Yamaha.


[Edited on February 17, 2012 at 4:21 PM. Reason : KBB says in excellent condition it's worth $1,790]

2/17/2012 4:14:46 PM

smoothcrim
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that's a decent deal. I prefer the honda xr100/crf100 to the tt125. they're about 1hp apart but the honda is a spec bike for a lot of racing classes as well as being mostly unchanged for like 20 years so parts are easy to come by and cheap. also the xr has a flatter swing arm angle for less nervous handling

2/17/2012 4:33:53 PM

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^^ not by chance a girl with a solid axle Tundra is it?

2/17/2012 9:21:47 PM

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^^^ you will get bored with a 125 4 stroke. I have a 250 two stroke and love it. You can keep it in lower rpm's if you are wanting to keep it easy or rev it up and it flys. Most of the power of a dirt bike is wasted when the tire spins anyhow.

2/19/2012 5:02:08 PM

ncsuallday
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^^yes I believe she used to have one. her name is Meg

2/20/2012 2:33:56 AM

ncsuallday
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any opinions on a 2002 KTM 125sx for 1500?

2/24/2012 3:22:28 AM

Igor
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^i think tripleD4u got one

2/24/2012 11:09:39 AM

Specter
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anybody selling a bike in the $3k range? looking for an SV / Honda 919 / early 2000's Duc Monster, etc

2/24/2012 11:27:09 AM

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R1 or GTFO

2/24/2012 12:08:07 PM

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'busa

2/24/2012 12:36:23 PM

Dr Pepper
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ncsuallday


please to research dirtbikes


last i saw, ktm SX125's are in the 40whp range and are 2-stroke... power delivery... lack of experience.... dirty ass whopin (BT,DT). lots of suspension, power, and speed. fun as fuck when you get the experience with it.


TTR-125.... well,... it may have 10hp. you can walk beside it in first gear... and it's suspension isnt made for very fast riding. this is the one you bring out when you're drinking with friends and generally want to 'fuck shit up'

2/24/2012 1:34:21 PM

ncsuallday
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^thanks

I've been reading as much as I can and what I'm looking for isn't a TTR but more of a mx bike. YZ125, CR125, RM125, KX125.

Is there really one brand that stands out? I heard Honda's haven't changed much and parts are cheap and easy to find. A lot of people swear by Yamaha and one of my friends is all about Suzuki.

2/25/2012 8:44:00 PM

smoothcrim
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Specter - buy my rc51

2/26/2012 9:32:49 AM

Specter
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haha, didnt you wreck that thing at VIR?

2/28/2012 10:57:48 AM

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buy my harley.

2/28/2012 6:02:09 PM

smoothcrim
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yeah, like 4 years ago. it's been back together for years and was my daily driver for 2.

2/28/2012 8:10:33 PM

Specter
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so its street legal? how much you want for it?

2/29/2012 4:19:19 PM

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Specter:

http://asheville.craigslist.org/mcy/2830591113.html

Spotted an SV1000s on the Asheville craigslist.

3/1/2012 7:47:16 PM

smoothcrim
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^that ad is LOL - every bike he named is significantly more bike than that sv1k

3/1/2012 9:16:04 PM

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Don't hate on the sv1k too bad... it's a damn fun bike for the $$, it can more than hold it's own to most of the 600's.

However, I agree the guy selling it does not strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed.

[Edited on March 1, 2012 at 10:20 PM. Reason : ]

3/1/2012 10:18:52 PM

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Thinking bout getting a new bike in next yr or so. Currently ride an old standard. I like cruiser styling but have never ridden one.

Any cruisers that sit up a bit more? Anyone swapped and happy? Shadow r6 looks like it might fit the bill but its tough to say

3/2/2012 12:24:26 AM

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How are you torn between a cruiser and an r6? Those bikes offer totally different riding experiences, and, I should say, social experiences. I advise that you test ride a sport bike and a cruiser (dealerships will be glad to give you something you can take for a spin as long as you have a motorcycle licence). Also, take out your current standard to a ride/meet with some sportbike guys and with some cruiser guys and see how you like the group riding experience/the people. Heck, may as well check out a cafe racer meet and maybe and adventure bike meet. You may end up wanting to keep your current bike or get something that is completely off your radar right now (like a dual purpose bike) just based on the people and the places where you want to take your bike.

(featuring our very own JBaz)

(still trying to keep it local and keep it real)





[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 2:04 AM. Reason : .]

3/2/2012 1:43:36 AM

smoothcrim
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that first vid was a snoozefest. what kinda bikes were in that last one? one looked like a flat track bike (the main one)

3/2/2012 7:54:25 AM

cyrion
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^^ derp, honda shadow RS. Was late and they sound similar when said out loud. Sits a bit more like a standard, but not sure if that half and half (since it still is a lil bit more forward) would be uncomfortable.

on other notes, i'm pretty sure i wouldn't like riding a sportbike though since i already feel a bit heavy on the wrists when riding my standard for a bit.

[Edited on March 2, 2012 at 9:54 AM. Reason : .]

3/2/2012 9:50:48 AM

JBaz
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yeah, whose this JBaz character... looks like a total douche. doesn't know how to ride.

3/2/2012 11:57:10 AM

Specter
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damn right he cant ride. who the fuck keeps running into deer?

3/2/2012 11:58:39 AM

JBaz
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replace deer with any living creatures. It's been 5 so far... of what I've been told.

3/2/2012 12:18:00 PM

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I'm planning on buying a dirt bike after graduation. I passed on the TTR-125 so I could save up some more cash. I'm looking to spend $1500-1800 but could possible put down $2,000.

I'm 5'10 175 lbs and I have effectively never ridden a dirt bike or motorcycle out of first gear.

What are the pro's / con's of a 125 vs. a 250 and the same with two-strokes vs. four-strokes? Is a 250 too much bike for me? will I get sick of a 125 quickly and want to move up? How easy are they to maintain? cost? reliability? Best brand to get?

I'm going to be riding trails pretty much exclusively but I'm going to get an MX bike. There are miles and miles of utility roads where I'm going to keep it, and there's also Carolina Backwoods, which has miles of trails and also has an MX course. I may also take the bike up to Henderson to the trails/parks there and also to the national forest south of Myrtle Beach.

If anyone can help me with some advice or point me to a good resource it would be greatly appreciated.

[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 9:35 PM. Reason : .]

5/2/2012 9:34:14 PM

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"Thinking bout getting a new bike in next yr or so. Currently ride an old standard. I like cruiser styling but have never ridden one.

Any cruisers that sit up a bit more? Anyone swapped and happy? Shadow r6 looks like it might fit the bill but its tough to say

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Get a sport touring. As Quinn and I would say, it's
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"90% the sports bike with cruiser comfort and practicality!!!"


Seriously. And many of them look great while not breaking the bank too badly either!

Some Options off the top of my head:

Ducati Multistrada
Triumph Sprint ST
Aprilia Futura
BMW R1150R / R1150RT / R1150RS
BMW R1200R / R1200RT / R1200S

There's many more too.
A lot of cruisers, from my observations, lack ground clearance that the Sport Tourers have and thus often scrape trying to take the same turn at the same speed as a Sport Tourer. My R1200R has no trouble keeping up with sports bikes on the street, and I must say that I'm quite comfortable after having ridden on several extended trips where-as my fellow sportsbike riders felt more fatigued. I'm convinced that for the street, a Sport Tourer is the way to go. I love my ground clearance, comfort, and sportiness. YMMV.

If you trust your own maturity and self restraint, there's nothing wrong with getting a larger motorcycle you can grow into imo. Unless you specifically desire a smaller motorcycle, you should buy the largest motorcycle you are most comfortable riding. Maybe I am/was foolish for getting a 1200cc motorcycle for my first bike after having ridden a GZ250 for 2 days, but I took it easy and allowed myself to grow into it. I look forward to exploring my skillset even further with future track events. Genearlly speaking, a motorcycle is only as dangerous as you allow it.

[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 9:56 PM. Reason : .]

[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 9:57 PM. Reason : .]

5/2/2012 9:46:09 PM

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"R1 or GTFO"

5/2/2012 11:16:45 PM

Hiro
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FWIW, I was staring long and Hard at a Shadow Phantom. I've yet to ride one still, but I think they are pretty cool bikes.

5/2/2012 11:23:22 PM

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"I'm planning on buying a dirt bike after graduation. I passed on the TTR-125 so I could save up some more cash. I'm looking to spend $1500-1800 but could possible put down $2,000.

I'm 5'10 175 lbs and I have effectively never ridden a dirt bike or motorcycle out of first gear.

What are the pro's / con's of a 125 vs. a 250 and the same with two-strokes vs. four-strokes? Is a 250 too much bike for me? will I get sick of a 125 quickly and want to move up? How easy are they to maintain? cost? reliability? Best brand to get?

I'm going to be riding trails pretty much exclusively but I'm going to get an MX bike. There are miles and miles of utility roads where I'm going to keep it, and there's also Carolina Backwoods, which has miles of trails and also has an MX course. I may also take the bike up to Henderson to the trails/parks there and also to the national forest south of Myrtle Beach.

If anyone can help me with some advice or point me to a good resource it would be greatly appreciated.
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I'm not a rider, but ive ridden a decent cross section of bikes (many of which i cant touch the ground on)

- a 125 4-stroke has about 10hp?, a 125 two-stroke has at least 40hp. disparaging difference, not to mention the gearing is way different... you can walk beside a ttr-125 in first gear.

- the newer 250 4-stroke mx and trail bikes are generally pretty powerful... you will jsut have to verify the different rides. i.e. an xr250 honda is modest compared to a cr250F honda.

- if you are going to spend most of your time on a trail.... you need a trail bike. most mx bikes have not-so-desirable gearing for trail riding and the smaller 2-stroke engines are harder to keep in their working powerband without working the clutch like you finger your girl's clit..... however with the right gearing a 250 2-stroke can be trail ridden.


IMHO I'd find someone with an old 250 or 400cc 4-stroke trail bike and learn to ride decently in open areas... then make a decision.

5/3/2012 8:37:54 AM

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"If you trust your own maturity and self restraint, there's nothing wrong with getting a larger motorcycle you can grow into imo. Unless you specifically desire a smaller motorcycle, you should buy the largest motorcycle you are most comfortable riding. Maybe I am/was foolish for getting a 1200cc motorcycle for my first bike after having ridden a GZ250 for 2 days, but I took it easy and allowed myself to grow into it. I look forward to exploring my skillset even further with future track events. Genearlly speaking, a motorcycle is only as dangerous as you allow it."


That's terrible advice. I can see the homeboy going out and getting a 'busa and it's all over with. Sometimes it has nothing to do with restraint. One badly timed throttle bloop and he is going down. Some larger displacement (and size) motorcycles are more forgiving than others, and 1200 boxer tourer will be lucky to keep up with a 600 inline four race replica, so there is no magic displacement number, but i would highly suggest getting a proven starter bike (preferably with cosmetic flaws) before upgrading to anything ballsy.

5/3/2012 10:24:33 AM

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So what your saying is on a 2 stroke i'd be better off operating the clutch with my tongue?

5/3/2012 10:24:37 AM

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"That's terrible advice. I can see the homeboy going out and getting a 'busa and it's all over with. Sometimes it has nothing to do with restraint. One badly timed throttle bloop and he is going down. Some larger displacement (and size) motorcycles are more forgiving than others, and 1200 boxer tourer will be lucky to keep up with a 600 inline four race replica, so there is no magic displacement number, but i would highly suggest getting a proven starter bike (preferably with cosmetic flaws) before upgrading to anything ballsy."


i agree with this completely. i had a honda rebel 250 for like a year and it was a terrific starter bike. i think they actually use that model for safety courses.

sure there isnt a goddamn thing about it that was cool, and it also had a nice big ding in the tank.

so what?

youre talking about one of the easiest ways to get your ass killed even if you arent a moron.

i was still an idiot for getting a 2004 yamaha vmax as my second bike, and promptly downgraded again to a harley 883 (which there is nothing wrong with).

it wasnt because the vmax was too fast. thats easy enough to control by just not being a jackass. it was heavy with an old-ass chassis and simply clumsy enough in low speed situations to make me uncomfortable. in high speed turns the shaft drive coupled with really short wheelbase seemed to make it do strange things.

but holy shit in a straight line, and the noise it made. the vmax legend was enough to make me buy it at that price. honestly i should have kept it and just put it away, but dont let your "manliness" get you killed. i probably would have been eventually if i had hung onto it.

just not for the reasons you immediately think of.

i dont know how large you are, but a small or medium harley (or similar cruiser) is a terrific idea. the center of gravity is very low and the lack of a liquid cooling system makes them lighter than you think.

just my 2 cents.

[Edited on May 3, 2012 at 10:41 AM. Reason : -]

5/3/2012 10:37:51 AM

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"So what your saying is on a 2 stroke i'd be better off operating the clutch with my tongue?

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if you can get a full wrap on the throttle with that thing....

you must have a happy wife.

5/3/2012 11:48:17 AM

sumfoo1
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lol

5/3/2012 12:13:00 PM

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^^
But also all that engine heat from being air cooled will make your legs and crotch hot, especially in the summer. Something to consider as well..

5/3/2012 2:23:18 PM

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^^^thanks for the advice. I'll keep it in mind when I'm looking at bikes and I'll update when I buy one. Found a really nice CR 250 on CL and the guy is a State grad, which makes me more confident he's not selling me a disaster waiting to happen. He said he had a bunch of people asking about it but if it doesn't sell this weekend he'll hold it for me for next weekend (pay day is next Friday).

5/3/2012 4:41:15 PM

Dr Pepper
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just be sure the thing has good compression.... rebuilds are not expensive, but they are more frequent on the 250 2-strokes

5/3/2012 4:51:04 PM

cyrion
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some pretty good advice in here, but a bit too late for me

I had plannedt o just go with something like an 883 or phantom, but ended up getting a good deal on 1100 vstar.

having done so, I'd say that the first few days were a bit awkward due to the weight and i took a few turns WAY too widely to be safe, but having ridden it for a month or two, it works well for me and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend someone move up to a bike that size after a year or two of casual riding (remember, I wasn't completely new as some of you are suggesting).

5/3/2012 5:52:43 PM

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Having ridden atv's for years and a few dirtbikes I decided to go the dual sport route. Got a 200cc 4 stroke dual sport as my first street ride. Slow as hell which was fine for me starting out. I can ride to any trail though and just take off where the big bikes have to stop and turn around.

6 months later and Im moving on to something bigger with the confidence that I'll be able to handle it and not kill myself, on the street or the trails, 650cc dual sport range, which is still not too crazy by motorcycle standards, but is fine for what I want to do.

If I was going to do it over again I would probably have gotten a 250 dual sport with a 6 speed trans on it over the 200c, then learned on that before upgrading.

So, if you want the best of both worlds consider a dual sport, most of them dont excel at street/trail/mx track riding alone, but are a good compromise for having fun doing all of them with 1 bike. It all depends on what you want to do.

As far as MX bikes go the guys I used to ride tight single track/power line trails out in knightdale with ran with yz125 2 strokes and those things were monsters (at least too me at the time as I was on a 350cc 4wd ATV). I dont know how they controlled them and flung them around the trails but they did, but they also went down quite a bit too. They were also breaking down every few rides with fouled plugs, carb issues, ignition issues etc etc. You would get bored with a 125 4 stroke very very quickly, but a 125 2 stroke you can keep in your stable forever and still enjoy it. Havent had any experience with 250cc+ mx bikes so cant comment on those.

5/8/2012 8:32:03 PM

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I put >600 miles on an 883 HD sportster and it would be a fine starter bike. I would hate to spend that much money on a bike of that quality but it did have its moments. You will wish you bought the 1200 after 30 miles. It felt underpowered to me and I put 4k miles on a ninja 250.... You cant really ride them aggressively because they scrape pegs with little to no lean angle.

I wanted a DRZ400 as my first bike but they cost too much to be practical. You could just buy a separate dirt bike.

5/9/2012 7:08:25 PM

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