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Slave Famous
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You can't be commish AND decide the draft order

Its one or the other

What ever happened to checks and balances?

7/12/2011 4:45:45 PM

TreeTwista10
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stop whining, stop being such a pussy

7/12/2011 4:47:01 PM

Slave Famous
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I love how the three biggest advocates of keeping the current order are the same people with picks one, two, and three in the draft

7/12/2011 4:48:08 PM

hey now
Indianapolis Jones
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dp

7/12/2011 4:48:09 PM

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Indianapolis Jones
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^ And the one being the biggest cunt is towards the bottom.

I can't tell if your trolling or not. I would prefer to remain commish since I just wasted money on the commish stuff, which benefits everyone.

The order was legit, that's all I can say.

7/12/2011 4:48:48 PM

Slave Famous
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You can be commish if someone else decides the order

You can decide the order if someone else be's commish

7/12/2011 4:48:48 PM

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Indianapolis Jones
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Or you can drop out of the league and play by yourself.

7/12/2011 4:49:33 PM

The E Man
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I know I don't have any clout here but you guys are going to just have to trust me when I say two teams per conference (one in each division) is the best way to go. When you get more than two teams per conference the people who are struggling lose interest. Also, when people are playing with their own recruited players to their style 3 or 4 seasons into the dynasty, it becomes fantastic and the 80% of users that would stop playing the game by then are hooked because they love the team they have recruited custom.

At the end of the season each conference championship game features users and theres all sorts of bowl implications in those games and the winners go on to play each other in bcs bowl games. Its super exciting and gets everyone pumped.

I promise you it would work out better. Sure, some people end up playing with schools they are not interested in (since most of you are only interested in east coast teams) but that can be tweaked this year.

Also, user games are much bigger in my scenario because everyone beats the computer and you end up getting battles of top 10 teams in every user game. I have never seen a superconference dynasty go more than 1 full season simply because people dropout or stop playing.

Keep in mind that the non conference season is 4 games and you can fill that up with user games and end up with 4 or 5 per season.

[Edited on July 12, 2011 at 4:51 PM. Reason : pm hey now about this]

7/12/2011 4:50:44 PM

iceman72
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slave you may want to shut yo mouth... i just did a randomization.... not looking good in your favor...

7/12/2011 4:52:11 PM

Slave Famous
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I've enlisted dweedle to come up with a new draft order

He will post the results later this evening

Until then, continue to mock and deride hey now for his obvious attempts at draft manipulation, and Ernie and TreeTwista for being his cohorts atop the lottery

[Edited on July 12, 2011 at 4:52 PM. Reason : Iceman, hop on the meat wagon as well]

7/12/2011 4:52:16 PM

The E Man
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Dynasty2004
Ernie
guitarguy
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iceman72 iceman7772
Slave Famous
Steven
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The E Man eddiebluedevil
wilso
DalCowboys

sometimes i will play on some other gamertags but this is what it is for now

7/12/2011 4:53:29 PM

Slave Famous
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I have no problem being last

As long as those three heathens aren't first

7/12/2011 4:53:41 PM

iceman72
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yes im all in favor of the original because i have pick number 8 right in front of yours... that screenshot is legit to... just took the names and hit the randomize button

7/12/2011 4:54:21 PM

The E Man
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if we do the dynasty the way I'm proposing, draft order doesn't really matter because you build your own team within three months.

7/12/2011 4:54:53 PM

Motiak
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Sounds like someone sucks too much to make up for having a mediocre team.

7/12/2011 4:55:12 PM

Slave Famous
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I don't trust that system

Dweedle will be drawing names out of a hat

7/12/2011 4:55:20 PM

iceman72
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christ... we arnt doing 2 teams per conference... already decided ^lol... lets get some lotto balls instead.... or bingo?

[Edited on July 12, 2011 at 4:56 PM. Reason : !]

7/12/2011 4:55:27 PM

Ernie
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E Man I hope you've got a mic

Cause we gonna chat

7/12/2011 4:56:02 PM

The E Man
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i have no mic

7/12/2011 4:57:03 PM

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Indianapolis Jones
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Thanks for your input E Man, it will be considered next year. And you can't play with different user names.

7/12/2011 4:57:55 PM

Slave Famous
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I've now been informed that Jaybee will open eat 12 fortune cookies with our usernames on the fortunes to decide the order

7/12/2011 4:58:14 PM

The E Man
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Quote :
"christ... we arnt doing 2 teams per conference... already decided ^lol... lets get some lotto balls instead.... or bingo?"

if you confident based on what you've seen in the past then fine, i'll trust you. but based on the people i've played with in the past (haven't played with any of this group or any ncstate group), that format never works out and the format i've suggested almost always works out with tons of interest, and excitement.

I'm just putting this out there because I'd hate to waste time in a league that has two or three people left after the first season or flatout stops advancing.

7/12/2011 5:00:13 PM

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Indianapolis Jones
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^
Noted

7/12/2011 5:00:39 PM

DalCowboys
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to make it more even can the teams who pick last pick which users are in their conference? If we redo the picks then the people who end up last the 2nd time will bitch about it, because they were near the top the 1st time... I say let the picks begin

7/12/2011 5:03:45 PM

Slave Famous
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FYI for those that don't know:

Hey Now is good buddies with Ernie and TreeTwista. The odds of them picking 1-2-3 are less than 1%. This is the only reason I'm crying foul. Me picking 9th, 12th, 57th doesn't matter. It's all about them.

7/12/2011 5:10:19 PM

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I've never met either one.

7/12/2011 5:11:27 PM

Slave Famous
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and I've never met gunzz

7/12/2011 5:12:08 PM

Slave Famous
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Hey Now, Ernie, Treetwista and myself will be picking 9th-12th

That is fair for everyone

7/12/2011 5:14:43 PM

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How is that fair for any of us?

7/12/2011 5:15:29 PM

Slave Famous
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More fair than the three stooges picking 1-2-3

7/12/2011 5:17:08 PM

Ernie
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Here we are discussing our picks

7/12/2011 5:20:00 PM

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Ernie, I'll give you the option of switching draft positions with me in 2013 AND 2014, if you give me the number one pick this year.

7/12/2011 5:21:31 PM

The E Man
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Theres an easy way to draft teams without an order.

1.Everyone lists 12 teams in order
2. Teams ranked #1 by a single user are assigned to that user.
3. If a team is #1 by multiple users then one user is randomly selected for that team.
4. Reapeat for #2

Usually, only a few people pick the same team anyway.

7/12/2011 5:21:41 PM

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Indianapolis Jones
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^
You're close to being expelled.

7/12/2011 5:22:28 PM

Dammit100
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for having good ideas?

7/12/2011 5:23:20 PM

iceman72
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if he wants to run a damn league then he can create his own... he isnt the comish

7/12/2011 5:23:53 PM

Slave Famous
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My three proposals are as follows:

1. Complete re-selecting of draft order by a neutral party
2. Ernie, Hey Now, Treetwista and myself take picks 9-12
3. Hey Now gets replaced

[Edited on July 12, 2011 at 5:25 PM. Reason : or 4. Stick with the status quo, I don't particpate, but I troll the living fuck out of this thread]

7/12/2011 5:24:11 PM

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4. The results were completely random. We'll carry on. Ernie is on the clock. Let Slave troll.

7/12/2011 5:25:59 PM

Slave Famous
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I like how hey now only gave himself the number 2 pick to throw off suspicion. Real smart.

7/12/2011 5:27:06 PM

TreeTwista10
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are you just ignoring the list he copied and pasted into the random # generator and the screenshot?

7/12/2011 5:28:03 PM

Slave Famous
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Here are the facts: hey now is buddy buddy with Ernie and Treetwista across multiple sections, across multiple threads. They have several inside jokes and regularly communicate on a variety of topics. They are the definition of a TWW clique. All three decide to join the NCAA league. No problem. hey now wants to be commish. Again, no issues. But now the commish wants to determine the pick order with his "secret randomizer". Sketchy, but I'll let in slide.

But now we see the results. The first three picks are hey now and the retard crew. 1-2-3. He could run the "secret randomizer" 1000 times and wouldn't get those results. He blatantly and obviously stacked the deck, and his thinly veiled attempts at justifying his actions ("Nah, man, it was legit") are falling on deaf ears. He took advantage of his roll as commissioner to manipulate the draft order to ensure he and his buddies would have the best teams. This kills the spirit and competition in the league and makes the results meaningless.

I URGE ALL OF YOU TO REALIZE THE ERROR OF HEY NOW'S WAYS AND TO NOT PARTICIPATE UNTIL HE OR SOMEONE ELSE HAS RECTIFIED THE SITUATION.

Love,

Slave "Jim Sokolove" Famous

7/12/2011 5:33:58 PM

The E Man
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Not trying to run the league or bump heads with anybody just trying to give you some good advice. I've seen dynasties fail and succeed. Just because I don't want to run a dynasty doesn't mean I don't want the leagues I'm in to be run well. The decisions made on format at the start of the league are very sensitive, long term decisions and a lot of thought should be put into them is all I'm saying.
I trust that the people running the dynasties I'm in will make the best decisions to make them good.

I also realize that many of the people here really just want to have a league that uses the online dynasty feature to keep track of records, stats and all(which is fine) instead of a full online dynasty.

7/12/2011 5:34:33 PM

TreeTwista10
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Quote :
"He could run the "secret randomizer" 1000 times and wouldn't get those results."


yeah...

7/12/2011 5:35:12 PM

Slave Famous
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Says the man with number three pick

7/12/2011 5:35:31 PM

TreeTwista10
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funny how iceman's 1st try put us 3 in the top 4 and you in dead last http://www.thewolfweb.com/photos/00521693.jpg

you could run it 10,000 times and you wouldnt get that result!!1

7/12/2011 5:37:06 PM

Dammit100
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7/12/2011 5:37:11 PM

Ernie
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E Man

I'm gonna let you in on a secret

This league won't make it to season two, they never do

At least with someone other than Slave in charge this year, we should finish one full season

7/12/2011 5:37:25 PM

Dynasty2004
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WHERES THE JUSTICE?????

7/12/2011 5:37:27 PM

Slave Famous
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This is just the tip of the iceberg. Hey now will continue to fuck you time and time again to ensure that his, Ernie's and TreeTwista's teams stay at the top. Schedule hacking, restart abusing and intentional disconnecting are par for the course with these people. Buyer beware.

7/12/2011 5:37:38 PM

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EMAN,
In all honestly, if you expect this to go past 3 or 4 seasons, you may want to quit now.

7/12/2011 5:37:46 PM

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